Shocking treatment: Thai-American couple demands justice after electric shock in Chon Buri hotel jacuzzi

[Nickcage49]

Lord help me. If they were "electrocuted" they wouldn't be here to talk about it.

 

Get some English lessons guys.

[stix40]

Wouldn't get me in a public jacuzzi !

Bacterial Breeding Grounds .

They could give the boy a good nick name.

Fuse ? 

[bbko]

As a fellow American, all I can do is shake my head and think, sheez, get over yourselves, this isn't the USA. Man up, if there isn't any obvious injuries, take the 100k and get on with your life.

[hotchilli]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

The 30 year old woman, Monthakan Khansantier, sought the help of a renowned Thai lawyer, Ronnarong Kaewphet, after the hotel offered her only 100,000 baht in compensation

Hotel offers monumental 100,000 baht... take it lady.

Lucky it wasn't 10,000 Baht

[Rimmer]

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[Chongalulu]

7 hours ago, PJ71 said:

Compensation for what exactly, what were the injuries?

 

 

Trauma,they now can't face visiting a Watt,nor a series of other parallel tourist attractions. They have a battery of other issues and now just want to go ohm..

[NorthernRyland]

7 hours ago, Deserted said:

He he, well as it so happens, I've had a more harrowing experience in a jacuzzi than them although it rather difficult to convey. Let's just say if you skull is fractured and you are permanently brain damaged, taking a hot jacuzzi and sticking your head under the water to see what happens is definitely not a good idea if you prefer to remain conscious and have clear vision

Is this you writing or the brain damage?

[Zack61]

7 hours ago, steven100 said:

take the compensation love and think yourself lucky   !!

this is not the US deary ......

you'll end up with nothing if you try to be greedy ......

TIT .....  

 

 

 

True dat. The more you think you’ll get the more the lawyers will benefit. You’re on a hiding to nothing if you take this to court. 

[richard_smith237]

7 hours ago, steven100 said:

yes exactly .....   nothing about any injury ....   and obviously exaggerating the indecent ....

hotel will tell her to <deleted> off lovey ....

hope she gets nothing

There's nothing wrong with compensation, especially if they received some injuries. 

 

In Thailand the legal consequences of having poor electrics in public places is extremely limited - The only way to take such issues more seriously is to make them care.

When a lack of safety standards costs businesses and authorities a lot of money, only then Thailand will become safer for the rest of us. 

 

Thus: While people may not think the issue of compensation is an important one, it actually is, because when businesses know there is a risk of excessive compensation costs they'll care enough to ensure their premises are safe. 

 

 

[Formaleins]

8 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Good luck with that. I would not even put a bad review on Tripadvisor before getting back to the USA!

Agree there! Wait until they get back to the USA and then rip these bastards to shreds. make sure as many people know who they are, what they did and the paltry compensation, hopefully they won't be in business much longer. These <deleted>s need taking out.

[richard_smith237]

29 minutes ago, Sticky Rice Balls said:

i try to remind newbies here in LOS   remember where u are..thai for thai and you are not thai

Its in the header !!!!!!!

 

And just becasue someone else my be a non-Thai here thats no reason to suggest the legal system may not be on their side. 

 

This was not an accident, it was negligence. 

 

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Shocking treatment: Thai-American couple demands justice after electric shock in Chon Buri hotel jacuzzi

 

[bristolgeoff]

If the hotel has paid compo allready leave it at that.Don,t make a song and dance about it and think u deserve more.It seems u are all fine and move on or u may get nothing going thru the courts.

   I had a car accident minor no injuries and small money value,she was a lawyer claimed whiplash.Got away with it but wanted more,i found out thru a letter to me by mistake.Told the insurance company she lied  but nothing they can do.No whiplash or anything but the lawyer went for broke and she knew a payout would happen.Hope she got nothing but i will never know the end result.

[Frankie baby]

It was obviously an electrical discharge (leak) that came into contact with the water, probably from the jacuzzi controls. However this is another area of compliance on safety standards if the hotel is complying with the all the safety tests on their amenities. 

[Boyn]

Did she get pregnant from pool related activities?

[Sig]

6 hours ago, FruitPudding said:

They got an electric shock.

 

They were not electrocuted.

 

The quality of journalism couldn't be any worse.

I got curious because I've seen it used both ways - injury & death, so I looked it up. If the article and the woman are to be taken at face value, they were electrocuted. "Electrocution" encompasses severe or bad injury, not only death, which it appears you may have been inferring. Of the 5 dictionaries I checked, one of them only had death in the definition. All the others included injury.

[Liverpool Lou]

7 hours ago, itsari said:

There heart beat was close to stopping through negligence .

Through negligence or not, no one's heart stopped beating.

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, bbko said:

take the 100k and get on with your life.

They haven't been offered B100,000 compensation, they've had an offer to cover their medical bills up to a maximum of B100,000.

[richard_smith237]

9 minutes ago, Sig said:

6 hours ago, FruitPudding said:

They got an electric shock.

 

They were not electrocuted.

 

The quality of journalism couldn't be any worse.

I got curious because I've seen it used both ways - injury & death, so I looked it up. If the article and the woman are to be taken at face value, they were electrocuted. "Electrocution" encompasses severe or bad injury, not only death, which it appears you may have been inferring. Of the 5 dictionaries I checked, one of them only had death in the definition. All the others included injury.

Agreed...  There have been numerous debates on this forum regarding the specific meaning of 'electrocution' in relation to meaning death, or death and serious injury. 

 

Thus: the use of electrocution in this example is perhaps excessive because it would appear there was no 'serious' injury.

 

That said, its easy enough for any of us to know exactly what is meant by the word without delving in to the semantics... 

 

I'm sure our resident pedant will be along shortly to debate the debate !!!! 

Edited September 16, 2023 by richard_smith237

[itsari]

6 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Through negligence or not, no one's heart stopped beating.

Close , read 

[Falcon]

8 hours ago, PJ71 said:

Compensation for what exactly, what were the injuries?

 

 

What an absolutely ridiculous comment!! The people could have does, the woman is pregnant and they were electrocuted. How would you like to sit in a bath and get electrocuted and someone say, “where’s the injury”? If you can’t find anything better to say, turn off your computer and go and do something that’s not so taxing on the brain. Idiot!!!

[Hammerite]

4 hours ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

So the couple received an electric shock? Did the hotel get a qualified electrician to investigate and find any faulty wiring or whatever? If not it could happen again?

Nah, Somchai the maintenance guy checked it out by switching it on and putting his hand in the water .  No shock ...its good to go boss!!

[sambum]

 "After 20 minutes in the pool, they all felt numb all over their bodies and found it difficult to move their legs and arms."

 

That doesn't sound like an electric shock to me - an electric shock would have bounced them out of the jacuzzi!

 

No, I think they just stayed in too long and the water got cold - happened to me a few times in the UK after falling asleep in the bath!!! ???? 

[PJ71]

6 minutes ago, Falcon said:

What an absolutely ridiculous comment!! The people could have does, the woman is pregnant and they were electrocuted. How would you like to sit in a bath and get electrocuted and someone say, “where’s the injury”? If you can’t find anything better to say, turn off your computer and go and do something that’s not so taxing on the brain. Idiot!!!

hahahahahahahaha

 

 

[bbko]

8 hours ago, PJ71 said:

Compensation for what exactly, what were the injuries?

 

 

According to the American guy; mental rape, post traumatic stress disorder, aquaphobia, loss of bowel control, itchiness, loss of balance, tingling in extremities, slurred speech, temporary blindness, profuse sweating, erectile dysfunction, loss the sense of taste, heart palpitations, turophobia, Francophobia, & consecotaleophobia.

 

It's the American version of winning the lottery, "Oh some minor incident happened to me? I need to sue for millions".

[Sig]

8 hours ago, PJ71 said:

Compensation for what exactly, what were the injuries?

 

 

I thought it was pretty much common knowledge that "damages", in personal injury cases, refers to losses including things like time missed from work, medical bills, as well as "pain and suffering", which can be both mental and physical. I have no idea how courts in Thailand tend to award damages along these lines, but I would think it exists to some degree. They most definitely have a case for it. And if negligence can be proven, there should be punitive damages too IMO, but that is unlikely to happen in personal injury cases, from what I've heard. I have a feeling that may be because the money awarded for pain and suffering may be deemed to take care of that "punishment"....? By the way, electrical shock can cause serious injuries. And the fact that she is pregnant makes one wonder what the effects could be on their unborn child. If that were my wife and 3 year old kid, I'd sure as hell be looking for any kind of punishment possible, IF it were due to negligence. If that couldn't be proven and it was purely accidental and all work on the jacuzzi and electrical system were up to par, but some unforeseeable incident brought it about, then I wouldn't pursue punitive damages. But their vacation was destroyed and a child has been affected in who knows what way, being only 3 years old. There could be a variety of mental issues to deal with. And more could be argued.... At any rate, it shouldn't have happened and the hotel should bear responsibility a hell of a lot more than just medical bills! That's ridiculous. If the family could afford the time away from their home country, maybe a couple of free weeks stay with meals would be a nice offer, even if it were only accidental, let alone the possibility of negligence. But only medical bills? For nearly being killed? Seriously???

[PETERTHEEATER]

6 hours ago, brianthainess said:

Oh dear 

Let them play billiards.

[Ricky HKT]

Instead of all of this ranting, someone who knows about Thai law and procedures please educate us.

Are they (those "injured") legally entitled to any compensation?

If so, how much money is normally paid for "numbness."

I thought this type of thing was handled at the local police station "mano a mano," so things can be finalized in a quick fashion. And not "muck up" the court system with frivolous lawsuits.

Anybody have knowledge of this?

I am genuinely curious!

[PJ71]

3 minutes ago, Sig said:

I thought it was pretty much common knowledge that "damages", in personal injury cases, refers to losses including things like time missed from work, medical bills, as well as "pain and suffering", which can be both mental and physical. I have no idea how courts in Thailand tend to award damages along these lines, but I would think it exists to some degree. They most definitely have a case for it. And if negligence can be proven, there should be punitive damages too IMO, but that is unlikely to happen in personal injury cases, from what I've heard. I have a feeling that may be because the money awarded for pain and suffering may be deemed to take care of that "punishment"....? By the way, electrical shock can cause serious injuries. And the fact that she is pregnant makes one wonder what the effects could be on their unborn child. If that were my wife and 3 year old kid, I'd sure as hell be looking for any kind of punishment possible, IF it were due to negligence. If that couldn't be proven and it was purely accidental and all work on the jacuzzi and electrical system were up to par, but some unforeseeable incident brought it about, then I wouldn't pursue punitive damages. But their vacation was destroyed and a child has been affected in who knows what way, being only 3 years old. There could be a variety of mental issues to deal with. And more could be argued.... At any rate, it shouldn't have happened and the hotel should bear responsibility a hell of a lot more than just medical bills! That's ridiculous. If the family could afford the time away from their home country, maybe a couple of free weeks stay with meals would be a nice offer, even if it were only accidental, let alone the possibility of negligence. But only medical bills? For nearly being killed? Seriously???

Are you from the U S of A?

[Sig]

3 minutes ago, bbko said:

According to the American guy; mental rape, post traumatic stress disorder, aquaphobia, loss of bowel control, itchiness, loss of balance, tingling in extremities, slurred speech, temporary blindness, profuse sweating, erectile dysfunction, loss the sense of taste, heart palpitations, turophobia, Francophobia, & consecotaleophobia.

 

It's the American version of winning the lottery, "Oh some minor incident happened to me? I need to sue for millions".

"minor incident"? Do you have any idea what electrical shocks like this can do to you? It could damage internal organs and cause brain damage, which of course can lead to all sorts of other complications. I don't quite get how people on here can laugh this off like it's nothing. And depending only on some little news article to form such opinions over something that could have lifelong consequences for these people, including a small child for God's sake, is mindboggling. There's a thing called empathy that seems to be severely lacking around here, not to mention the ability to grasp the potential seriousness of a variety of things.... smh

[xtrnuno41]

They were numbed? With electricity your muscles get cramped, they cant do thing anymore.

Luckily voltage and current werent that strong. Strong enough and your main muscle (heart) will stop.

230 Volts, you will feel that and hard. 5 second shock, what is that? 

Weird nothing is mentioned about the baby, the one with the real tiny heart and most vulnerable.

The question is more about the baby, what did it with the baby?!  It can take years to find out.

 

It shows the installation wasnt proper grounded, or even not at all.

Companies giving approval (electric system) are therefor also responsible.

Hotel responsible for negligence of maintenance and check up.

And then again most important thing, there was no RCBO. A simple device which can save your live for every electricity contact.

 

Yes, sue everybody for millions. It could be, the unborn child needs lots of attention later on.

Maybe the brains are damaged, but you will find out only later.

Shake up Thailand, as they are lazy in safety and not only electricity.

Afraid of water activities is your least concern, prio is on baby !

However nothing mentioned about baby.