Leaving to go to Thailand too young

[georgegeorgia]

Often we talk about when is leaving it too old to go live in  Asia/Thailand

 

But today I want to talk about the opposite !

 

When is it too young to leave your place in farangland to go live in Thailand ???

 

I came across a YouTube channel, I think it was called " native farang" 

 

It was a young 24yo  Thai guy who speaks with a pommy accent and his white wife and 2 British born kids  who migrated to his birthplace of Isaan to run a farm just recently and they are youtubjng their life 

 

Rundown farm hoping to make money and a life ,the white wife looks bored 

 

Now I'm thinking if that was my son or daughter at that age I would happy he / they are wasting their life ?

 

Absolutely ridiculous at that age to move there , obviously they won't last there , I can assure you that 

 

this generation of young ones seems to have no planning for the future, my parents stayed in jobs 30/40 years and I bet some of you have too.

 

I even see this in Pattaya meet some young farang guy 25yo or whatever looking to stay in Pattaya because he met some this girl,when the novelty has worn off a few years he will go back to his home farangland country with the arse out of his pants 

 

When is too young to leave farangland, and if it was your son or daughter at that age would you talk them out of it ?

 

these young ones are in the prime of their life ,save that money ,work hard ,build up a bank account before moving !!!

 

Edited October 9, 2023 by georgegeorgia

[JAS21]

A very searching question, you must’ve searched a long time for that.

 

Keep it up Dan will love you….

Edited October 9, 2023 by JAS21

[georgegeorgia]

Absolutely

I feel very angry when watching that YouTube channel I think it was "native farang" or similar but a good-looking Thai guy with a pommy accent and his wife wasting their life living in muddy house ,why not wait until your at least 40 to risk this .

 

I can assure you if that was my daughter and son I would be dead against it 

 

 

Edited October 9, 2023 by georgegeorgia

[Prubangboy]

5 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

wasting their life living in muddy house  

 

 

Sounds like they took the get on the property ladder cheaply-advice and got on with it.

[bbko]

I don't know how other country's social security systems work, but in the USA, when you retire, you get back what you paid into.   When I've spoken with some young Americans that wanted to live here (making money under the radar) I'll try to remind them when they're old the monthly payday will be super small.

[ArnieP]

YouTube’s ‘Native Farang’ is a Thai who has returned from Northern England (he has a Yorkshire accent) to live in his native Thailand. No reason why he and his partner can’t make a go of it.

 

Other non-Thai youngsters can possibly create a life in LoS if they’re enterprising and, or, can get a work permit. Could prove a challenge though. 
 

But the OP is correct in that the novelty might wear off.

 

 

 

[retarius]

Hey these kids are having an experience. They will learn from it whether it goes right or wrong. Good luck to them I say. I left England in my late 20s and never went back. Hate the place. I had some set backs but was able to retire at 54 and live comfortably. 

I don't think it is about age per se, more about life experience and ability to earn a living. A cosseted kid from a wealthy family might not do as well as a hardscrabble kid from a council estate.

[HappyExpat57]

16 minutes ago, bbko said:

I don't know how other country's social security systems work, but in the USA, when you retire, you get back what you paid into.   When I've spoken with some young Americans that wanted to live here (making money under the radar) I'll try to remind them when they're old the monthly payday will be super small.

My son and his friends (mid-30's to 40's) all feel they will never see a retirement, and I must say I see their point. Between corporate greed and the US gubmint chipping away little by little at old age security, they see no hope in preparing for "golden years." They have said they expect to work until the day they die.

[georgegeorgia]

37 minutes ago, bbko said:

I don't know how other country's social security systems work, but in the USA, when you retire, you get back what you paid into.   When I've spoken with some young Americans that wanted to live here (making money under the radar) I'll try to remind them when they're old the monthly payday will be super small.

And what if you didn't work ,how much do you get then?

Strange social security system 

[georgegeorgia]

33 minutes ago, retarius said:

Hey these kids are having an experience. They will learn from it whether it goes right or wrong. Good luck to them I say. I left England in my late 20s and never went back. Hate the place. I had some set backs but was able to retire at 54 and live comfortably. 

I don't think it is about age per se, more about life experience and ability to earn a living. A cosseted kid from a wealthy family might not do as well as a hardscrabble kid from a council estate.

You took a risk ,not sure what you did in your life but to retire at 54 is great ....unless of course your on a disability pension or something 

[stoner]

the concept of retiring that the older generation grew into is not the same as the newer generations are facing. 

 

so comparing both is a little pointless. 

 

i see the desire to live while you can when you are young as the prospects of future stability are shrinking daily. 

[bbko]

3 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

And what if you didn't work ,how much do you get then?

Strange social security system 

Not work their entire "young" life? And then expect money when too old to work?? 555.

How does the social security system in your country work?

[georgegeorgia]

1 minute ago, stoner said:

the concept of retiring that the older generation grew into is not the same as the newer generations are facing. 

 

so comparing both is a little pointless. 

 

i see the desire to live while you can when you are young as the prospects of future stability are shrinking daily. 

And if you fail ,unless you have some sort of uni degree in medicine or whatever then you come back to farangland looking for a job in middle age broke !!

 

 

[georgegeorgia]

5 minutes ago, bbko said:

Not work their entire "young" life? And then expect money when too old to work?? 555.

How does the social security system in your country work?

In Australia if you can't find a job and believe me ( there is some who say they can't find a job the last 20 years)  then they get unemployment benefits,I think it's around $600 a fortnight.

 

How some of these people can't find jobs is unbelievable,unless some work for cash money then claim unemployment benefit too I'm thinking 

 

Of course if you can prove you have a disability before age 67 you can apply for the disability pension which is not easy to get .

 

For the old age pension, You need to be 67yo though to get the old age pension,I think it around $1100 a fortnight 

Edited October 9, 2023 by georgegeorgia

[poskat]

when I meet younger guys who want to live here, I always remind them that its easy to get into thailand, the trick is being able to stay here long term, and that its not as easy to set up some kind of business as they might imagine.

 

I know several girls in their early-mid 30's who have good jobs and they have had to deal with similar age foreign guys that they were in relationships with for a few years moving back home. They feel that they have wasted years on a guy who up and left.

[OneMoreFarang]

I think the person should be old enough to have worked successfully in Farangland. 

When he or she learned how to do things properly to a high standard then he/she will be welcome in Thailand to do some job which requires diligence.

I.e. I work in IT, and I charge a lot more than Thais. And my customers are willing to pay that because they know I learned in Europe to work to a high standard. I am pretty sure I wouldn't be able to charge more than others if I wouldn't have the experience of working to a high standard "back home".

 

One advantage of coming young is that there is no big problem of going back if it doesn't work out.

It should be easy enough for most people to get a job back home if they return from somewhere in the world maybe 35 years old. If they return with > 50 it will be more difficult to integrate back. 

[Celsius]

I immigrated from from a civil war to Canada at the age of 19 with 1000 dollars. I graduated University at 24 and got a job. Worked for 2 years almost minimum wage, quit the job and never worked since. I have been a self-employed so-called "digital nomad" since Amazon was founded. I was working from home 3-4 hours a day and after 10 years I thought I could do the same from Thailand. I was absolutely right except for the fact I "worked" even less. I read everything there was to be read about Thailand on internet forums from the old guys like yourself. The one thing I learned from reading forums  decades ago (early 2000's) was to never ever hook up with a prostitute and that worked extremely well for me. I was able to save money in Thailand following this simple rule and still have some fun on Tinder including 3 wives in 10 years without ever paying for sinsod, bulling a house in Isaan or generally just being ripped off.

 

In todays age of oversaturation and even your grandma being a "digital creator" on YouTube and OnlyFans including millions of sellers on online platforms, I don't think I would be able to do it. But maybe this generation has their own way of creating income that I don't know about.

 

So, yeah.... I just wander what is so smart about coming to Thailand when you are old? You are stuck with the absolute worst quality of women, you can barely move on these 3rd world roads and you look absolutely bitter while passing me by on the street because your brother in law is banging your wife and taking your money. Then you start nursing the bottle 24/7 and participate on the one of the most important topics on aseannow which is the price of beer and 100 baht English breakfast.

 

Livin' the dream!

 

 

 

 

[connda]

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

Often we talk about when is leaving it too old to go live in  Asia/Thailand

 

But today I want to talk about the opposite !

 

When is it too young to leave your place in farangland to go live in Thailand ???

 

I came across a YouTube channel, I think it was called " native farang" 

 

It was a young 24yo  Thai guy who speaks with a pommy accent and his white wife and 2 British born kids  who migrated to his birthplace of Isaan to run a farm just recently and they are youtubjng their life 

 

Rundown farm hoping to make money and a life ,the white wife looks bored 

 

Now I'm thinking if that was my son or daughter at that age I would happy he / they are wasting their life ?

 

Absolutely ridiculous at that age to move there , obviously they won't last there , I can assure you that 

 

this generation of young ones seems to have no planning for the future, my parents stayed in jobs 30/40 years and I bet some of you have too.

 

I even see this in Pattaya meet some young farang guy 25yo or whatever looking to stay in Pattaya because he met some this girl,when the novelty has worn off a few years he will go back to his home farangland country with the arse out of his pants 

 

When is too young to leave farangland, and if it was your son or daughter at that age would you talk them out of it ?

 

these young ones are in the prime of their life ,save that money ,work hard ,build up a bank account before moving !!!

 

Who are you to criticize how any other person attempts to find fulfillment and happiness?

[FritsSikkink]

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

Absolutely

I feel very angry when watching that YouTube channel I think it was "native farang" or similar but a good-looking Thai guy with a pommy accent and his wife wasting their life living in muddy house ,why not wait until your at least 40 to risk this .

 

I can assure you if that was my daughter and son I would be dead against it 

 

 

Maybe he makes loads of money with all these people looking at his silly YouTube channel.

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

these young ones are in the prime of their life ,save that money ,work hard ,build up a bank account before moving !!!

Climate change believers all predict less than 10 years left of this world.

No need to plan for more, are you some sort of denier?

[Gecko123]

3 minutes ago, Celsius said:

3 wives in 10 years

Sounds like a nightmare to me, but to each his own.

[BritManToo]

5 minutes ago, Celsius said:

So, yeah.... I just wander what is so smart about coming to Thailand when you are old? You are stuck with the absolute worst quality of women, you can barely move on these 3rd world roads and you look absolutely bitter while passing me by on the street because your brother in law is banging your wife and taking your money. Then you start nursing the bottle 24/7 and participate on the one of the most important topics on aseannow which is the price of beer and 100 baht English breakfast.

 

Livin' the dream!

As far as I can see, we're all fishing in the same pond.

Chuck 'em back so someone else can have a go.

[JayClay]

@georgegeorgia

 

Are you in Thailand? I can't really make out from your posting history what your motivation is. You just seem to enjoy pointing out where you believe people have gone wrong.

 

Are you perhaps trying to vindicate the decision to pass up on an opportunity to move here in the past?

[Celsius]

6 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

As far as I can see, we're all fishing in the same pond.

Chuck 'em back so someone else can have a go.

 

My apologies for bad mouthing you on this forum.

 

Sometimes I go to an extreme to prove a point. You are in fact one of my favorite posters because you don't take this country too seriously like other retired guys and a lot of your advice is spot on. Yes, I do have a massive issue with your general view of women, but we are all different.

Edited October 9, 2023 by Celsius

[stoner]

17 minutes ago, Celsius said:

fun on Tinder including 3 wives in 10 years

winning. 

[ArnieP]

14 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Maybe he makes loads of money with all these people looking at his silly YouTube channel.

He won’t be making any money from YouTube, he only has 3,500 subscribers :(

[georgegeorgia]

23 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Climate change believers all predict less than 10 years left of this world.

No need to plan for more, are you some sort of denier?

Lol

Reminds me about 20 years ago in Australia, I went to look at a house for sale about 2 hours North of Sydney (Central Coast NSW) 

 

The agent was telling me the old couple selling were motivated to accept all offers as they were members of some Pentecostal Church that believes Jesus was arriving on a certain date and they needed to sell their house to donate to the Church !

 

Apparently they were P*""d off when he didn't arrive and they had nowhere to live !!

[Gecko123]

The wife in the native farang video is taking enormous risk in terms of her future. While her husband has the right to own property, has a wide variety of occupational options, and would probably be able to find a new Thai spouse and enjoy community support in the event of death of his spouse or divorce, the wife would very likely not enjoy these same opportunities. For example, she would be unable to purchase land, be limited in what work she could do, and as a single foreign female in rural Thailand, would likely struggle socially both in the expat and Thai communities.

 

In addition, they are never going to achieve financial independence subsistence farming in Thailand. The small family farm model which can sometimes be profitable in the West really struggles here in Thailand. The learning curve for subsistence farming, as evidenced in many of their videos, is quite long and there are good reasons why so many Thai farmers are in debt up to their eyeballs.

 

While that "off the grid" lifestyle can be very rewarding and educational, the skills learned don't readily transfer to skilled labor jobs, either here and certainly not back in Australia. Maybe she has a financial cushion (inheritance) that she can fall back on, but from what I've seen, I question the advisability of this adventure and whether she can truly afford it when all the potential vagaries of life, both personal and macroeconomic, are given the weight they deserve.

 

The litmus test for whether such a move is financially viable is the ability to maintain the option to repatriate at any time in the future. The younger you are, the more stringently this litmus test should be adhered to. Not just whether you can afford to repatriate tomorrow, but whether you will be able to do so 5, 10, 20, 30 years down the road.

[georgegeorgia]

13 minutes ago, ArnieP said:

He won’t be making any money from YouTube, he only has 3,500 subscribers ????

I often wonder how all  these YouTubers make money unless people donate ?

[JeffersLos]

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

why not wait until your at least 40 to risk this .

I think it's okay to risk it after the age of learning you're and your. Hold off until then.