Trump is dominating the primaries. That doesn’t mean he’ll beat Biden

[Fat is a type of crazy]

On 1/24/2024 at 4:50 PM, JonnyF said:

It would appear that Trump is very popular amongst Republican voters.

 

 

He's not popular with the Smiths - if I recall you are a big fan. Fun fact they've told him to stop playing 'Please please please let me get what I want' at his rallies without permission. 

[Walker88]

21 minutes ago, G_Money said:

No proof as expected!

Typical generic liberal answer.

Do you know how to use the internet?

 

The New York City court records are available online.  I will let you find them. I'm not your teacher. The mods here know full well all of what I write is freely available from recognized and authorative sources.

 

You can also just Google things like "trump charity fraud trial" or even things like "Judge Engoron" or "E Jean Carroll" and you will read evidence of trump's various convictions.

 

While you're at it, you can read the indictments related to his 91 felony accounts. They are public records, too.

 

I hope you are not going to try to argue---in the truly slam dunk case of trump's theft of stolen classified documents---that trump 'declassified with his mind', because you would be facing the wrong person. I am a former member of the clandestine services holding a TS/SCI clearance, who had classification authority, know full well what each classification means, and know intimately well the process involved in declassification, plus all of the rules required when handling classified documents. Mere possession of such documents in a non-SCIF is a violation, and willful possession is a felony.

 

As I have asked trumpers repeatedly, what possible use does a guy with no security clearance (POTUSs never have a security clearance, just have the privilege of seeing classified docs while in office), and who runs a place that is a club and engages in wedding planning, need HCS, RD, SAP and other docs whose disclosure can get people killed and harm national security? 

 

I guess I'm a responsible type as well as patriotic. It outrages me that anyone, much less a former POTUS, could be so reckless and cavalier with documents who genesis is often from people who puts their lives on the line obtaining the intelligence. That never-served, bone spurs POS is so self-centered, he couldn't care less if he exposes clandestine assets and puts them and their families in mortal danger. Such identities are what is in documents classified as HCS (Human Clandestine Sources).

 

 

[connda]

Gawd.  The never Trumpers are freaking out.  I find the angst amusing.

Fyi.  I have no interest in either Biden or Trump.  I'm tired of geriatrics in the Oval Office.  Time to hand the reins to a Gen-X or Millennial. 

[Walker88]

I have to apologize and correct something I have written over time. I have written that trump ran up $7,800,000,000,000 in new National Debt while POTUS, or over $24,000 for every man, woman and child in the US, and that it was that profligacy that created---along with his tariffs that are not "paid by China" but are passed on to the US Consumer---inflation.

 

According to this article:

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-added-8-4-trillion-182637129.html

 

the number is actually $8,400,000,000,000, or over $25,000 for every man, woman and child in the US.

 

Since when trump took over, the US National Debt, built up under the first 44 Presidents was $19.3 trillion, trump alone added an additional 44% to what had accumulated under the 44 previous Presidents.

 

In any event, that debt increase dwarfs the change in GDP during his term, so even his meager growth was debt fueled.

[Danderman123]

26 minutes ago, connda said:

Gawd.  The never Trumpers are freaking out.  I find the angst amusing.

Fyi.  I have no interest in either Biden or Trump.  I'm tired of geriatrics in the Oval Office.  Time to hand the reins to a Gen-X or Millennial. 

So, you would vote for Taylor Swift?

[Gecko123]

1 hour ago, G_Money said:

Biden:  A career politician that’s achieved nothing.  Not even a real job in his lifetime.  Ask him any question other than the flavor of his ice cream and watch him break.

 

Trump:  Built an entire hotel empire.  Private enterprise.  Never in government until elected president.  A fighter to boot.

 

I know whom I will vote for.  Trump again.  It’s my right as an American citizen until Democrats (facist) try and take it away, which they are trying to do.

You've really been drinking the kool-aid, bro. With both fists.

[G_Money]

1 minute ago, Gecko123 said:

You've really been drinking the kool-aid, bro. With both fists.

Nice try but the kool-aid is a democrat/liberal refreshment used by their electorate similar to Jonestown.

[G_Money]

55 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Do you know how to use the internet?

 

The New York City court records are available online.  I will let you find them. I'm not your teacher. The mods here know full well all of what I write is freely available from recognized and authorative sources.

 

You can also just Google things like "trump charity fraud trial" or even things like "Judge Engoron" or "E Jean Carroll" and you will read evidence of trump's various convictions.

 

While you're at it, you can read the indictments related to his 91 felony accounts. They are public records, too.

 

I hope you are not going to try to argue---in the truly slam dunk case of trump's theft of stolen classified documents---that trump 'declassified with his mind', because you would be facing the wrong person. I am a former member of the clandestine services holding a TS/SCI clearance, who had classification authority, know full well what each classification means, and know intimately well the process involved in declassification, plus all of the rules required when handling classified documents. Mere possession of such documents in a non-SCIF is a violation, and willful possession is a felony.

 

As I have asked trumpers repeatedly, what possible use does a guy with no security clearance (POTUSs never have a security clearance, just have the privilege of seeing classified docs while in office), and who runs a place that is a club and engages in wedding planning, need HCS, RD, SAP and other docs whose disclosure can get people killed and harm national security? 

 

I guess I'm a responsible type as well as patriotic. It outrages me that anyone, much less a former POTUS, could be so reckless and cavalier with documents who genesis is often from people who puts their lives on the line obtaining the intelligence. That never-served, bone spurs POS is so self-centered, he couldn't care less if he exposes clandestine assets and puts them and their families in mortal danger. Such identities are what is in documents classified as HCS (Human Clandestine Sources).

 

 

And what about Biden's classified documents in his garage near his corvette….silence as usual.

 

Lies and corruption.

 

“ I did not have sexual relations with that woman “. Remember that one on national television.

 

 I won’t even mention old bag Pelosi’s multi million net worth on a career civil servant salary.  Insider trading?

Whose coke in the White House?  Surprised you’re not blaming it on the black butler.

 

Shall I post Bidens blatant lies throughout the years.   All on film.   Remember bye bye Biden.

 

One who lives in a glass house should not throw stones.

 

Edited January 26 by G_Money

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, G_Money said:

And what about Biden's classified documents in his garage near his corvette….silence as usual.

 

Lies and corruption.

 

“ I did not have sexual relations with that woman “. Remember that one on national television.

 

 I won’t even mention old bag Pelosi’s multi million net worth on a career civil servant salary.  Insider trading?

Whose coke in the White House?  Surprised you’re not blaming it on the black butler.

 

Shall I post Bidens blatant lies throughout the years.   All on film.   Remember bye bye Biden.

 

One who lives in a glass house should not throw stones.

 

 

I hope Pelosi remembered to sell her TSLA shares before they tanked.

[G_Money]

 

[G_Money]

An honest man is hard to find !

 

 

[morrobay]

58 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

 

 

 

I guess I'm a responsible type as well as patriotic. 

 

 

Responsible , patriotic ?? - Could have fooled me Hoss.  Ya all's for this Southern border invasion letting millions in uninspected. Oh I mean bidens open border policy. Sounds like treason to me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[mistral53]

1 hour ago, Walker88 said:

I have to apologize and correct something I have written over time. I have written that trump ran up $7,800,000,000,000 in new National Debt while POTUS, or over $24,000 for every man, woman and child in the US, and that it was that profligacy that created---along with his tariffs that are not "paid by China" but are passed on to the US Consumer---inflation.

 

According to this article:

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-added-8-4-trillion-182637129.html

 

the number is actually $8,400,000,000,000, or over $25,000 for every man, woman and child in the US.

 

Since when trump took over, the US National Debt, built up under the first 44 Presidents was $19.3 trillion, trump alone added an additional 44% to what had accumulated under the 44 previous Presidents.

 

In any event, that debt increase dwarfs the change in GDP during his term, so even his meager growth was debt fueled.

 

Truly staggering, indeed.

Do you think Biden will best Trump in this race to fuel the national debt? Looking at the US debt clock, as of this moment, the figure is 34.1 Trillion, and there is another 12 months to go.

 

Neither of these clowns should be president.

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, G_Money said:

Biden:  A career politician that’s achieved nothing.  Not even a real job in his lifetime.  Ask him any question other than the flavor of his ice cream and watch him break.

 

https://stephensoncountydemocraticparty.com/blog/f/here-are-23-of-joe-biden’s-greatest-accomplishments-as-president

 

1. Passed the $1.2 trillion bipartisan infrastructure package to increase investment in the national network of bridges and roads, airports, public transport and national broadband internet, as well as waterways and energy systems. 

 

2. Helped get more than 500 million life-saving COVID-19 vaccinations in the arms of Americans through the American Rescue Plan. 

 

3. Stopped a 30-year streak of federal inaction on gun violence by signing the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act that created enhanced background checks, closed the “boyfriend” loophole, and provided funds for youth mental health. 

 

4. Made a $369 billion investment in climate change, the largest in American history, through the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022. 

 

5. Ended the longest war in American history by pulling the troops out of Afghanistan.

 

6. Provided $10,000 to $20,000 in college debt relief to Americans with loans who make under $125,000 a year. This was struck down but the Supreme Court, however, the administration has announced a new plan to forgive billions in loans that were qualified under special programs but not done due to DOE mismanagement in previous years. Read the article above) 

 

7. Cut child poverty in half through the American Rescue Plan. 

 

8. Capped prescription drug prices at $2,000 per year for seniors on Medicare through the Inflation Reduction Act. 

 

9. Passed the COVID-19 relief deal that provided payments of up to $1,400 to many struggling U.S. citizens while supporting renters and increasing unemployment benefits. 

 

10. Achieved historically low unemployment rates after the pandemic caused them to skyrocket. 

 

11. Imposed a 15% minimum corporate tax on some of the largest corporations in the country, ensuring that they pay their fair share, as part of the historic Inflation Reduction Act.

 

12. Recommitted America to the global fight against climate change by rejoining the Paris Agreement. 

 

13. Strengthened the NATO alliance in support of Ukraine after the Russian invasion by endorsing the inclusion of world military powers Sweden and Finland. 

 

14. Authorized the assassination of the Al Qaeda terrorist Ayman al-Zawahiri, who became head of the organization after the death of Osama bin Laden. 

 

15. Gave Medicare the power to negotiate prescription drug prices through the Inflation Reduction Act while also reducing government health spending.

 

16. Held Vladimir Putin accountable for his invasion of Ukraine by imposing stiff economic sanctions. 

 

17. Boosted the budget of the Internal Revenue Service by nearly $80 billion to reduce tax evasion and increase revenue. 

 

18. Created more jobs in one year (6.6 million) than any other president in U.S. history. 

 

19. Reduced healthcare premiums under the Affordable Care Act by $800 a year as part of the American Rescue Plan. 

 

20. Signed the PACT Act to address service members’ exposure to burn pits and other toxins. 

 

21. Signed the CHIPS and Science Act to strengthen American manufacturing and innovation. 

 

22. Reauthorized the Violence Against Women Act through 2027. 

 

23. Halted all federal executions after the previous administration reinstated them after a 17-year freeze 

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, G_Money said:

 

Trump:  Built an entire hotel empire.  Private enterprise.  Never in government until elected president.  A fighter to boot.

 

Trump went bankrupt 4 times, squandering his inheritance. 

 

He was a Vietnam war draft dodger, and is a coward.

 

I would ask you what the Trump Administration did to help the working and middle classes, but for you, the question isn't understandable. All you care about is Trump owning the libs.

[Danderman123]

34 minutes ago, morrobay said:

Responsible , patriotic ?? - Could have fooled me Hoss.  Ya all's for this Southern border invasion letting millions in uninspected. Oh I mean bidens open border policy. Sounds like treason to me.

 

 

Biden's Border Patrol is catching more illegals than Trump ever did.

[Walker88]

42 minutes ago, G_Money said:

And what about Biden's classified documents in his garage near his corvette….silence as usual.

 

Lies and corruption.

 

“ I did not have sexual relations with that woman “. Remember that one on national television.

 

 I won’t even mention old bag Pelosi’s multi million net worth on a career civil servant salary.  Insider trading?

Whose coke in the White House?  Surprised you’re not blaming it on the black butler.

 

Shall I post Bidens blatant lies throughout the years.   All on film.   Remember bye bye Biden.

 

One who lives in a glass house should not throw stones.

 

Perhaps it's a difficult difference to appreciate for those sniffing the vapors blowing out of trump's bloated backside, but the both Biden and Pence, when it was found classified documents were found in their homes cooperated fully with the authorities and allowed the FBI to search and remove anything classified.

 

In contrast, trump specifically chose TS, SCI, SAP, Codeword, HCS and RD documents, kept them in his home, initially refused to hand them back, lied about declassifying them (there would be a paper trail; there is not, so lying is obvious), lied and said he'd returned everything when he hadn't, and according to witnesses, told his tech people to erase CCTV video which had staff---staff without clearance, by the way---move and hide docs so FBI might not find them.

 

NO PRESIDENT retains any HCS docs, not even when in the White House. Rarely are identities revealed to POTUSs, instead they are told something like, "a long term asset whose previous reporting has proven highly reliable". trump had to have been given these docs by the two lackeys he appointed as DNI (Grenell and Ratcliffe), because no way would Gina Haspel nor trump's first DNI Coates violate rules and give trump such sensitive material.  In any event, trump's possession of identity-revealing docs in his country club puts brave men and women in harm's way. And for what purpose? My opinion is trump fully intended to monetize those docs.  Perhaps you have another excuse; I'm sure trumpian media has made up one.

 

Oh, and trump ordered the DoD to draw up a plan for attacking Iran before the election, believing it might help him win in Nov 2020. He stole that DoD report and even showed it to members of his NJ golf club (it's on tape). trum also asked---but was rebuffed---to plan a nuclear attack on China after Nov 2020, hoping he could declare a national emergency and stay in power. Gen Milley, then Chief of the Joint Chiefs, told counterparts in China to ignore anything trump might say and not take it seriously. trump then claimed that is treason (it's not, since no war had been declared by Congress) and said Gen Milley should be executed.

 

Additionally, what does coke in the WH have to do with Biden? Have you ever been i the WH or West Wing?  It's pretty large and thousands of people are in t every day. A POTUS doesn't do individual security checks. Now witnesses who worked in trump's Administration did testify (it's in the indictments you refuse to read) that trump flushed classified documents down the toilet on several occasions. THAT is illegal and a security violation.

 

As for Bill Clinton, is he running in 2024?  I think not.

 

Your are not distinguishing yourself with your posts. Multiple convictions already, and 91 felony indictments put trump on a whole different level than all previous Presidents combined. He is the only convicted criminal who has ever been, or run, for POTUS.

[Walker88]

46 minutes ago, morrobay said:

Responsible , patriotic ?? - Could have fooled me Hoss.  Ya all's for this Southern border invasion letting millions in uninspected. Oh I mean bidens open border policy. Sounds like treason to me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Perspective, fella. Maybe you're afraid one of those women who carried her kids 1000 miles is going to take your gas station job?

 

A roaring economy, low unemployment, a record stock market, and a full recovery from the trump carnage is a lot more important than the border.  Or maybe you think trump's wall, which he did not build (even when he had an R House and R Senate), and which Mexico did not pay for, will stop the flow? Hamas on 6 October kind of proved the security value of a wall.

 

Now if the House repubs had not slashed the Border Patrol budget, which means BP could not hire more agents, maybe the flow would be stopped. They won't even fund it now, because they WANT it to be any issue for trump.

 

Curious if you served in any way, or if you have bone spurs or maybe think people who served are 'suckers and losers' as your messiah says.

[Tug]

47 minutes ago, morrobay said:

Responsible , patriotic ?? - Could have fooled me Hoss.  Ya all's for this Southern border invasion letting millions in uninspected. Oh I mean bidens open border policy. Sounds like treason to me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And just who is blocking any legislation on the border pray tell humm??I will help you out,that is one Donald jhon trump he’s also blocking aid to Ukraine getting brave men and women killed defending their country from the looting killing hoards of Russians so HOSS your premise holds no water whatsoever nada zip,it’s trump holding up the bi partisan legislation allready agreed on in the senate I find that FACT heinous in the extreme seems to me mr trump is performing better for Mr Putin than America LOCK HIM UP!

[Walker88]

2 hours ago, G_Money said:

 

 

Trump:  Built an entire hotel empire.  Private enterprise.  Never in government until elected president.  A fighter to boot.

 

2 hours ago, G_Money said:

 

 

Trump:  Built an entire hotel empire.  Private enterprise.  Never in government until elected president.  A fighter to boot.

 

I know whom I will vote for.  Trump again.  It’s my right as an American citizen until Democrats (facist) try and take it away, which they are trying to do.

 

Funny stuff.

 

You can look this up, too, or if you have a friend in Deutsche Bank, ask them

 

trump inherited $412 million from his dad. He also began receiving an allowance of $200,000 from the age of 3 until his dad died. Hardly self made. He also had to have his dad co-sign all his loans until dad died.

 

trump declared 6 bankruptcies.  And in casinos, where addicts throw money at you. The public record of those bankruptcies is amusing. He issued junk bonds and took a loan from a bank syndicate made up of 72 banks. He pledged the land and property as collateral. They ended up with 30 cents on the dollar (the taxpayer picked up the rest). He also stiffed the subcontractors.

 

Now here's something interesting....he had bank loans in NYC at that time, but they had personal guarantees, so he could not afford to stiff those banks. SO what he did was pay himself a huge salary as CEO of his NJ casinos, and also funnel junk bond funds from NJ to NYC to service his NYC bank loans. His father helped him make one debt payment in NYC by buying $3 million in chips in one of his casinos. (You can Google Fred trump $3 million casino chip purchase if you want).

 

Yea, trump is a real "self-made" guy.  As we now know from his bank and insurance fraud conviction in NY, he wasn't exactly above board.

 

Oh, and Dems blocking your vote? Did Dems put together a fake elector scheme?  Did Al Gore call his supporters to DC to stop the certification in 2000? Did Gore hold a rally on the Mall and tell his people to "fight like hell" and "march to the Capitol"? Did Gore call the SecState of Florida and tell him to "just find me...11,780 votes"?

 

To people not sniffing the trumpian vapors, it sure looks like it isn't Dems trying to block your vote. Heck, Dems would even allow outsiders to provide water to folks waiting in line for hours to vote, as most polling stations in their area had been shut down (as Repubs have done in several States like GA).

[ozimoron]

8 minutes ago, Tug said:

And just who is blocking any legislation on the border pray tell humm??I will help you out,that is one Donald jhon trump he’s also blocking aid to Ukraine getting brave men and women killed defending their country from the looting killing hoards of Russians so HOSS your premise holds no water whatsoever nada zip,it’s trump holding up the bi partisan legislation allready agreed on in the senate I find that FACT heinous in the extreme seems to me mr trump is performing better for Mr Putin than America LOCK HIM UP!

 

Indeed.; Trump needs to keep the issue alive to help him get re-elected. Doing a deal with the dems on the border (which the dems are willing to do to get assistance for Ukraine) would kill the entire issue. Trump wants neither so the GOP, cornered by MAGA will destroy democracy to help Trump.  They know the border situation is far from a real crisis.

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, morrobay said:

Responsible , patriotic ?? - Could have fooled me Hoss.  Ya all's for this Southern border invasion letting millions in uninspected. Oh I mean bidens open border policy. Sounds like treason to me.

 

 

 

Donald Trump just killed the deal to fix the border problem.

 

Are you happy about that?

[Tug]

5 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Indeed.; Trump needs to keep the issue alive to help him get re-elected. Doing a deal with the dems on the border (which the dems are willing to do to get assistance for Ukraine) would kill the entire issue. Trump wants neither so the GOP, cornered by MAGA will destroy democracy to help Trump.  They know the border situation is far from a real crisis.

Absolutely disgusting isn’t it un American un patriotic amoral evil damaging and on and on and on but just what would you expect from a  man  who was so afraid of smearing his MAKEUP that he as the LEADER couldent bring himself to wear a mask during a deadly pandemic all of this just beggars belief and to me as an American is deeply horrifying and shameful sad 😞 

[Morch]

On 1/25/2024 at 7:25 PM, novacova said:

You are aware that these so called fact checkers are nothing more than a lying propaganda tool for the left, right?

 

Real Republicans use alternative fact checkers.

[Morch]

On 1/25/2024 at 7:53 PM, impulse said:

 

So your contention is that Dem voters aren't very smart?  And can't plan even one move ahead?

 

 

Devious and nefarious they are....add their crystal balls, and it's almost impossible to defeat them.

[Walker88]

1 hour ago, morrobay said:

Responsible , patriotic ?? - Could have fooled me Hoss.  Ya all's for this Southern border invasion letting millions in uninspected. Oh I mean bidens open border policy. Sounds like treason to me.

 

And speaking of patriotic, how are the trumpers 'patriotic' when they are blocking a border security Bill because---as Moscow Mitch said this week---"we cannot interfer in an election issue on which trump is running"?

 

The Dems compromised. They took 'path to citizenship' and 'dreamers' out of the Bill. Old style Repubs like Romney, Lankford and Tillis fully support the Bill, which not only will fund border security, but also fund aid to Israel, Gaza and Ukraine.

 

The trumpian cult doesn't want anything good to get done, as it might hurt trump...the guy who also wants the economy to crash.

 

So let's see...is it patriotic to stand in the way of border security, hope people lose their savings, become unemployed, have their 401Ks obliterated, help an invader take over a country in Eastern Europe, and let more people suffer in the Middle East?

 

Only in the bizarre and totally self-serving world of trumpistan could anyone think such madness is 'patriotic'.

[Morch]

On 1/25/2024 at 8:06 PM, impulse said:

 

I'm sure that even a mental midget, given the 7 months between February and October, could brain through the thought that "I can't cast a meaningful vote for my guy, but I can vote against that guy I hate".  Even if they read a lot of books.  I do believe most Dems are capable of walking and chewing gum.  Multi-tasking is what I think the kids call it.

Edit:  Who knows, maybe they worked it out at their book club meetings.

 

 

Or maybe you're projecting....

[candide]

1 hour ago, G_Money said:

And what about Biden's classified documents in his garage near his corvette….silence as usual.

 

Lies and corruption.

 

“ I did not have sexual relations with that woman “. Remember that one on national television.

 

 I won’t even mention old bag Pelosi’s multi million net worth on a career civil servant salary.  Insider trading?

Whose coke in the White House?  Surprised you’re not blaming it on the black butler.

 

Shall I post Bidens blatant lies throughout the years.   All on film.   Remember bye bye Biden.

 

One who lives in a glass house should not throw stones.

 

In the MAGA alternate universe.... 😀

[G_Money]

1 hour ago, Walker88 said:

Perhaps it's a difficult difference to appreciate for those sniffing the vapors blowing out of trump's bloated backside, but the both Biden and Pence, when it was found classified documents were found in their homes cooperated fully with the authorities and allowed the FBI to search and remove anything classified.

 

In contrast, trump specifically chose TS, SCI, SAP, Codeword, HCS and RD documents, kept them in his home, initially refused to hand them back, lied about declassifying them (there would be a paper trail; there is not, so lying is obvious), lied and said he'd returned everything when he hadn't, and according to witnesses, told his tech people to erase CCTV video which had staff---staff without clearance, by the way---move and hide docs so FBI might not find them.

 

NO PRESIDENT retains any HCS docs, not even when in the White House. Rarely are identities revealed to POTUSs, instead they are told something like, "a long term asset whose previous reporting has proven highly reliable". trump had to have been given these docs by the two lackeys he appointed as DNI (Grenell and Ratcliffe), because no way would Gina Haspel nor trump's first DNI Coates violate rules and give trump such sensitive material.  In any event, trump's possession of identity-revealing docs in his country club puts brave men and women in harm's way. And for what purpose? My opinion is trump fully intended to monetize those docs.  Perhaps you have another excuse; I'm sure trumpian media has made up one.

 

Oh, and trump ordered the DoD to draw up a plan for attacking Iran before the election, believing it might help him win in Nov 2020. He stole that DoD report and even showed it to members of his NJ golf club (it's on tape). trum also asked---but was rebuffed---to plan a nuclear attack on China after Nov 2020, hoping he could declare a national emergency and stay in power. Gen Milley, then Chief of the Joint Chiefs, told counterparts in China to ignore anything trump might say and not take it seriously. trump then claimed that is treason (it's not, since no war had been declared by Congress) and said Gen Milley should be executed.

 

Additionally, what does coke in the WH have to do with Biden? Have you ever been i the WH or West Wing?  It's pretty large and thousands of people are in t every day. A POTUS doesn't do individual security checks. Now witnesses who worked in trump's Administration did testify (it's in the indictments you refuse to read) that trump flushed classified documents down the toilet on several occasions. THAT is illegal and a security violation.

 

As for Bill Clinton, is he running in 2024?  I think not.

 

Your are not distinguishing yourself with your posts. Multiple convictions already, and 91 felony indictments put trump on a whole different level than all previous Presidents combined. He is the only convicted criminal who has ever been, or run, for POTUS.

Blah blah blah, all talk.  No real proof of anything.  
 

I’ve proven Senile Joe is a confirmed liar.  In his own words on film.  Pretty hard to deny that.

[G_Money]

50 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

And speaking of patriotic, how are the trumpers 'patriotic' when they are blocking a border security Bill because---as Moscow Mitch said this week---"we cannot interfer in an election issue on which trump is running"?

 

The Dems compromised. They took 'path to citizenship' and 'dreamers' out of the Bill. Old style Repubs like Romney, Lankford and Tillis fully support the Bill, which not only will fund border security, but also fund aid to Israel, Gaza and Ukraine.

 

The trumpian cult doesn't want anything good to get done, as it might hurt trump...the guy who also wants the economy to crash.

 

So let's see...is it patriotic to stand in the way of border security, hope people lose their savings, become unemployed, have their 401Ks obliterated, help an invader take over a country in Eastern Europe, and let more people suffer in the Middle East?

 

Only in the bizarre and totally self-serving world of trumpistan could anyone think such madness is 'patriotic'.

You really should stop getting your news from MSNBC and “The View “.