Has The World Gone Mad?

MangoKorat · February 10

There was a recent thread on AN regarding being exposed to gay behaviour on TV programmes etc. I was strongly criticised by a couple of members on that thread for stating that I don't want to see such behaviour - it honestly makes me feel physically sick. I was accused of being a 'Gay Hater' which is ridiculous, I don't hate Gay people in any way, shape of form. I believe that Gay people have the same rights in life as anyone does and I would defend that to the death. I was simply answering the question posed by the thread and stating my preference.

Ten days ago after a brief 'holiday' from the site, I re-joined a popular dating app and paid for their 'Gold' subscription - thankfully only for one month. As usual I received several 'likes' each day with some coming from Ladyboys - some of whom do not state their sexual orientation in their initial contact. I have no interest in dating a ladyboy and so to try and reduce the amount of contact from them. I wrote 'No Trans' in a list of preferences my profile. I also get regular 'matches' on the site from 'girls' who's real intention is to try and sell me Crypto Currency - so I also include 'No Crypto' in my profile. I have no interest in hearing from either.

Today my account has been banned from the app for 'hate speech' - I presume because of the 'No Trans' statement, they don't say. Just banned me and no offer to refund the fee for Gold membership. An appeal is allowed but strangely the site does not offer the facility for someone to state why they are appealing - there is just a button to click that says 'appeal'. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I've offended Crypto Currency - in this screwed up world, who knows?

So I ask you, what is the world coming to - has this PC sentiment gone too far? It has in my opinion - way too far. How is simply stating a group that you do not want to hear from 'hate'? How long will it be before Gay and Trans people are allowed to take someone to court for refusing to date them? Will that be classed as 'discrimination'? Will we all be required to date a 'Trans' person if they wish to date us?

IMHO, there is something very wrong with today's world. Genuine hate speech should not in any way be tolerated and should be treated in the same way as racial discrimination. On that subject, I have no particular preference on the skin colour of the girls I date but if I did, would I not be allowed to state so? I clearly state in my profile that I am straight, surely a person who makes such a statement is within their rights? If I had stated 'NO Pervy Trans/Queers' in my profile, that would be hate speech. But when did simpy stating your preferences become wrong? Careful in stating that you like blondes lads, the brunettes will be sueing you!

If we, and by we, I include moderate Straight, Gay and Trans people, don't make a stand on this and 'nip it in the bud' - I can see a time, not so far away where simply stating you are 'straight' will be classed as discriminatory - think about it.

I'll be completely clear on this - there are moves afoot - maybe even already in existence in some countries where Trans people are able to alter their birth certificate. This is just as opinion and I believe we all have a right to one but I believe that for example, having an operation, taking hormones etc. etc. does not alter the gender of a person. I can never see, for example, a day when a male to female Trans will be able to have a baby and breastfeed it. All the operations ect. do is to alter the sexual orientation of that person and give them the physical appearance of a female.

Now, there are those amongst you that are attracted to Ladyboys and that is fine for you but in itself that is a distinction - they are attracted to the fact that Ladyboys are transgender and many specifically visit Thailand in order to meet them. How long before such people also come under fire for only being attracted to a person BECAUSE they are Trans. Will that also be discriminatory? Will Ladyboys start complaining, 'You don't like me because I'm a woman, you only like me because I am Trans'?

The way things are going, if we are 'straight' we will all be compelled to offer relationships to any person who presents themselves to us, regardless of their actual gender. Taking it to the extremes, will you have to date a fat person or someone you consider ugly , even if you do not find them attractive in the slightest? If you refuse, will that be classed as 'hate'? Is it discrimination?

Will each one of us soon lose the right to choose the factual gender of our long term or sexual partners? Lose the right to choose what attracts us and what doesn't?

In all honesty, I'm glad I'm the age I am because as far as I'm concerned, the world has gone mad. We've gone from giving gay and transgender people equal rights in law - to which they are very much entitled, to utter madness. There are websites and other places I believe, where you are not allowed to call someone 'he' or she' its 'they or 'them' - you must refer to them not as what they actually are, but as per how they 'identify'.

What the hell is going on and where will it end?

(Purely as a footnote - to the 2 or 3 people that jumped on me on the other thread - I have honestly placed you on ignore so you are wasting your time replying directly to me, all I am able to see is that you have posted - up to you, I care not.)

Edited February 10 by MangoKorat

flyingtlger · February 10

Welcome to the "Woke" society we are living in.....

impulse · February 10

Your first mistake was getting on a dating site.

MangoKorat · February 10

1 minute ago, impulse said:

Your first mistake was getting on a dating site.

No mate, I've had a lot of fun thanks to that site.

save the frogs · February 10

15 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

will you have to date a fat person or someone you consider ugly , even if you do not find them attractive in the slightest?

Turn off the news.

It's warping your mind.

Stop watching the news.

The news can be many things: exaggeration for sensationalism to sell more news, brainwashing, just noise, stupid people's opinions.

Here, watch this instead.

Watch intellectual stuff, not the garbage they feed the masses to keep people stupid.

Edited February 10 by save the frogs

steven100 · February 10

sounds like that dating site is not good anyway if they banned you for no reason ...

try another site ....

but to be honest, dating website are for desperado's .... 90% of the candidates are liars and scammers.

MangoKorat · February 10

1 minute ago, steven100 said:

sounds like that dating site is not good anyway if they banned you for no reason ...

try another site ....

but to be honest, dating website are for desperado's .... 90% of the candidates are liars and scammers.

Naa not desperados. Its the popular way to meet these days and I've had a lot of success on that particular site - more than any other. You are however, correct that they are all full of scammers and liars but I guess its the price you pay. I just don't see how stating 'No Trans' is wrong.

One thing that is possible - I believe that this particular site intitially reacts to anyone who reports your profile. It could well be that my profile is re-instated once my 'appeal' has been looked at. If not, they'd better damned well refund my Gold membership fee.

CDG931 · February 10

All forms of discrimination are condemnable.
The gay community has certainly had more than its share of discrimination.

But the sensitivities and preferences of people should be heard.
And that includes people who prefer not to have interactions with gay or trans individuals. It is their right, and it is their right to be able to say it. That doesn't necessarily make them haters.
Otherwise, wouldn't this be a form of discrimination? It's just that it has shifted sides. Political correctness (in all of its forms) has gone too far.

Edited February 10 by CDG931

CDG931 · February 10

53 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

No mate, I've had a lot of fun thanks to that site.

I've had very little success on dating apps since I uploaded my profile picture.
I'll try other sites.
Is your site very 'friendly'?

ezzra · February 10

The Rolling stones sang: You can’t always get what you want But if you try sometimes well, you might find, You get

what you need Oh, yea..

It used to be called PC, politically correct, thinking one thing but saying another when it come to be published,

and we all, at one point or another, being reminded that the world has its own rules which we suppose

to abide by despite what WE THINK it's right...

bokningar · February 10

PC and WOKE has gone way to far. Can't even crack a joke anymore without someone get offended.

But as anything there will be a counter reaction. And that might go to far as well.

thaibeachlovers · February 10

Has The World Gone Mad?

I expected something more than a discussion about why the OP doesn't want to be involved with trans people, and he is not in the wrong, IMO, but I came on here expecting a more general discussion of how the world has gone completely barking, so to answer the headline, I give an unqualified YES

save the frogs · February 10

4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Has The World Gone Mad?

I expected something more than a discussion about why the OP doesn't want to be involved with trans people, and he is not in the wrong, IMO, but I came on here expecting a more general discussion of how the world has gone completely barking, so to answer the headline, I give an unqualified YES

this is a good thread to perpetuate your nihilism

thaibeachlovers · February 10

Just now, save the frogs said:

this is a good thread to perpetuate your nihilism

Perhaps, but I only came on to answer the headline, not the OP.

thaibeachlovers · February 10

10 minutes ago, bokningar said:

PC and WOKE has gone way to far. Can't even crack a joke anymore without someone get offended.

But as anything there will be a counter reaction. And that might go to far as well.

But as anything there will be a counter reaction.

I sadly think you are mistaken. I think the enemy within already won, and us poor misguided males just haven't realised it yet.

save the frogs · February 10

1 hour ago, MangoKorat said:

In all honesty, I'm glad I'm the age I am because as far as I'm concerned, the world has gone mad. We've gone from giving gay and transgender people equal rights in law - to which they are very much entitled, to utter madness. There are websites and other places I believe, where you are not allowed to call someone 'he' or she' its 'they or 'them' - you must refer to them not as what they actually are, but as per how they 'identify'.

I dont have kids.

But do most kids who transition to ladyboys have good parenting?

We need to backtrack because the divorce rates are 50% or even higher.

I think that's the problem.

Most human beings cant keep a marriage together.

Kids coming from broken homes looking for an identity.

Daddy working 80 hours a week. Mommy working 80 hours a week, even if they do stay together.

You mind if I ask who how many times you've been divorced and how many kids from broken homes you've left behind?

Edited February 10 by save the frogs

bokningar · February 10

13 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

But as anything there will be a counter reaction.

I sadly think you are mistaken. I think the enemy within already won, and us poor misguided males just haven't realised it yet.

Lets hope I'm right. :wink:

thaibeachlovers · February 11

4 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

I dont have kids.

But do most kids who transition to ladyboys have good parenting?

We need to backtrack because the divorce rates are 50% or even higher.

I think that's the problem.

Most human beings cant keep a marriage together.

Kids coming from broken homes looking for an identity.

Daddy working 80 hours a week. Mommy working 80 hours a week, even if they do stay together.

You mind if I ask who how many times you've been divorced and how many kids from broken homes you've left behind?

We have to pass a test to drive a car, we have to abide by certain laws to own a dog, we have to be qualified to be a Dr or a nurse, or a lawyer, but to be a parent, which is more important than any of those we don't need any qualifications at all.

I's like to see psychological tests on wannabe parents and any that are obviously unsuitable sterilised. Obviously that's never going to happen, but there should be a penalty for those that make babies and then fail to be a good parent.

impulse · February 11

56 minutes ago, CDG931 said:

All forms of discrimination are condemnable.

It's a hook up site. I don't think that's one of those aspects of life covered under equal opportunity rules. (Edit: Not yet, anyway, but give it time)

I'm not a fan of kankles. Most women don't want to date broke guys with bad breath. I wouldn't want to waste my time and effort or the other person's if I'm not what they want, or they're not what I want.

How is that any different than stating right up front that the OP doesn't date trans people?

Edited February 11 by impulse

save the frogs · February 11

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

We have to pass a test to drive a car, we have to abide by certain laws to own a dog, we have to be qualified to be a Dr or a nurse, or a lawyer, but to be a parent, which is more important than any of those we don't need any qualifications at all.

I's like to see psychological tests on wannabe parents and any that are obviously unsuitable sterilised. Obviously that's never going to happen, but there should be a penalty for those that make babies and then fail to be a good parent.

exactly

2baht · February 11

1 hour ago, flyingtlger said:

Welcome to the "Woke" society we are living in.....

I "woke" up at 6.00am! How "woke" is that???

KhunLA · February 11

In future, lead with ... 'Cis Male seeking Cis Female, with no interest for investment advice"

It's all, always in the delivery :coffee1:

@MangoKorat

save the frogs · February 11

And dating apps are BS

Bunch of stupid criteria. Just get out in the real world and use charm to attract women.

JBChiangRai · February 11

Posting negatives (no trans etc) says more about you than about what you are looking for.

Always look at what you are posting from a 3rd person view and if it doesn’t look good, don’t post it.

Do you think you may have offended the trans community this time in the same way you offended humanity in your homophobia before? (Rhetorical question).

SAFETY FIRST · February 11

2 hours ago, MangoKorat said:

Has The World Gone Mad

YES!!!!

Prubangboy · February 11

The world changed and your view, that gay people acting gay makes you physically sick, is going to create more and more problems for you -in much the same way that people who felt that black people should have civil rights, but preferably only far, far away from them came to be viewed as very negative anachronisms.

You certainly have a "right" to your reaction. If I have a very unpopular opinion, my impulse is usually to keep it to myself among un-like minded people. I def agree that you should be able to specify No Trans in your dating profile. OTOH, how hard is it to simply delete date prospects with suspiciously big jaw bones? You have a non-problem with an easy solution.

As a supporter of your various who cares?-rights, I want to point out that you are a very poor advocate for your point of view.

Too much paranoia about vague stuff like "plans are afoot" and "How long?" pretend-worrying. You will never suffer any actual discrimination for being a old straight whitie, despite your implausible victim claims. Whereas a guy in a dress def gets a lot of grief.

Why not just bang Noi in Phitsolanuk and stop and smell the roses?

SAFETY FIRST · February 11

2 hours ago, MangoKorat said:

I was accused of being a 'Gay Hater' which is ridiculous, I don't hate Gay people in any way, shape of form

I feel ill and offended when I see 2 guys kissing, I can watch 2 girls kissing all day long.

Its the way we were brought up, it's not our fault, we learnt from shows like the Brady Bunch.

I'm not bothered about gay men or their behavior but to all you queer guys keep it behind closed doors.

4MyEgo · February 11

2 hours ago, MangoKorat said:

No mate, I've had a lot of fun thanks to that site.

The good with the bad

2 hours ago, MangoKorat said:

Today my account has been banned from the app for 'hate speech' - I presume because of the 'No Trans' statement, they don't say. Just banned me and no offer to refund the fee for Gold membership. An appeal is allowed but strangely the site does not offer the facility for someone to state why they are appealing - there is just a button to click that says 'appeal'. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I've offended Crypto Currency - in this screwed up world, who knows?

Sounds like the bad took over the good, with not so much fun anymore ?

2 hours ago, MangoKorat said:

IMHO, there is something very wrong with today's world.

You only just found that out ?

2 hours ago, MangoKorat said:

Will each one of us soon lose the right to choose the factual gender of our long term or sexual partners? Lose the right to choose what attracts us and what doesn't?

I would change your brand of coffee.

2 hours ago, MangoKorat said:

No mate, I've had a lot of fun thanks to that site.

I prefer AN, dating sites, can't say, I don't go on dates, as I don't want relationships, just the quickdraw McGraw.

In society today, there is control, whether on forums, apps and the like, if your words are picked up by the bots as offensive or contradictory to what is allowed, the bots will shut you down real quick and make if hard for you to get a response of prove your innocence, i.e. your proven guilty, end of story, it's a numbers game.

I recall I sent a link to someone on Messenger, as they asked for me to prove what I was saying, I was then banned from Messenger for violating their policy, them stating pornographic material was against their policy, I said W-T-F- and double checked what I sent, it wasn't porn much to my relief and I complained, and the ban was lifted that afternoon, no apology, no nothing, so welcome to the woke world of bots, guilty whether you like it or not, suffice to say, it doesn't have to be words, it can be links.

Ben Zioner · February 11

Dear OP, you are not allowed to state openly your respectable sexual preferences while ageism and anti-semitism are well tolerated..

steven100 · February 11

39 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

I feel ill and offended when I see 2 guys kissing.

maybe take a chill pill ... Lol

There's plenty of Thai TV drama with the guys ...

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