Judge orders Trump and companies to pay nearly $355 million in civil fraud trial

[Yellowtail]

48 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Even worse, many Americans want to see America weakened.

The left has always wanted the United States weaker. 

[jerrymahoney]

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

And your opinion on the success of the appeal?

As I've said multiple times: To me, the outcome of any of these criminal or civil legal predicaments is a side-show compared to the prospect of Trump again being President 20 JAN 2025.

[jerrymahoney]

1 hour ago, Roo Island said:

That article isn't just about NYC, where I also use to live and saw firsthand Trump's bs. He has more lawsuits than his 4 closest real estate peers combined! A true criminal.

OK. So I have known who he was since mid-1970's then at a minimum.

 

And in 1978 Trump made his first big Manhattan real estate splash with the Commodore Hotel morphed to Hyatt. As I lived on west 57th street this whole area was my daily stomping grounds.

[Walker88]

9 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Will the Dems be doing this to all future Republican candidates for Presidency, ?

Only against the career criminals.

[ozimoron]

7 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Only against the career criminals.

 

Especially ones who want to use their ill gotten gains to run the country. Trump might have remained as just another tax dodging billionaire like all the other billionaires had he not aspired to power.

[Roo Island]

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

The left has always wanted the United States weaker. 

Propaganda from the far right and dodgy politicians. Sad you actually believe it.

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

The left has always wanted the United States weaker. 

You are wrong, and you know you are wrong.

 

Remind me why the Russians were helping the Biden impeachment inquiry. Do you think the Russians want a stronger America?

[Eric Loh]

58 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I was against the bone-headed Russian-reset, and I think that Trump was much firmer against Russia than either the Obama or the Biden administration. 

 

The meek surrendering to Putin in Helsinki was strength? Biden and Obama will never display such weakness to Putin on the world stage. 

[metisdead]

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Judge orders Trump and companies to pay nearly $355 million in civil fraud trial

[frank83628]

15 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

There are more cases in the pipeline for Trump, including Michigan and Nevada (or Arizona). Trump will be in an out of court (or prison) for the rest of his life.

no, Trump will just be living rent free in your head for the rest of your life.

 

[frank83628]

19 hours ago, Lacessit said:

There's a fairly merciless dissection of the arguments Trump's lawyers will probably advance on appeal.

Meidas Touch on YouTube, Michael Popok.

Perhaps the most striking part of the opinion piece is the assertion Judge Engoron did everything possible in his verdict to negate any grounds for appeal.

Another problem Trump has is sending in lawyers who have no experience with the NY legal system. It's like having a grade cricketer opening in a Test match, with Mitchell Johnson bowling.

 

 

and i guess being a Lawyer in NY yourself and not an expat on a Thai forum, you know all about the inner workings!

[Walker88]

trump is now appealing for an additional 30 day stay before he has to pay the penalty plus interest or post the sum and appeal.

 

Apparently trump didn't sell quite enough gold sneakers, and the RNC doesn't have enough to loot in the war chest.

 

It's pretty bad form to spend months calling the judge 'deranged' and attacking the judge's assistant, so that trump's goobers made death threats against the judge and had his house "swatted"....and then beg for more time to pay what's owed.

 

It also brings to mind trump's comments about NATO allies paying up or he'd encourage Russia to invade.

 

Pay up, donny.

[heybruce]

7 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

The left has always wanted the United States weaker. 

The left, as you call them, are the ones securing and stabilizing alliances to contain Russian and Chinese aggression and expansion.  How does that make the United State weaker?

[Roo Island]

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

no, Trump will just be living rent free in your head for the rest of your life.

 

Impossible

[frank83628]

20 hours ago, ozimoron said:

 

Nope, he's a broken down wreck. The hatred is just as warranted as that for every other fascist tyrant in history. I'm still consumed with hatred over the stolen babies. They had the temerity to accuse dems of stealing babies. Yet another right wing lie.

TDS in full effect....fascist tyrant.... you are one sad man, you could kind of understand if you were writing from a collage campus somewhere in California. 

[frank83628]

12 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

 

The Russians are helping Trump by providing disinformation for the Biden impeachment inquiry.

 

In return, Trump is not going to resist if Russia attacks certain NATO countries, and end US support for Ukraine.

 

If that isn't collusion, can you give me a better word for it?

Delusion.   and it's in your head

[transam]

11 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Delusion.   and it's in your head

Aaaah, bliss............

 

 

[Roo Island]

33 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Delusion.   and it's in your head

Ummm...right back at ya....

[earlinclaifornia]

omg you can see in the ingraham th he does not have the money! no way that judge after his latest comments about the judge
This is about to get ugly as his assets are going to be siezed!

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

TDS in full effect....fascist tyrant.... you are one sad man, you could kind of understand if you were writing from a collage campus somewhere in California. 

Right.  Trump is a populist who scapegoats minorities, ignores established institutions, procedures, checks and balances, and has no respect for democracy, but that doesn't make him a fascist.

 

Oh wait, it kind of does.

[Danderman123]

3 hours ago, frank83628 said:

no, Trump will just be living rent free in your head for the rest of your life.

 

Only until Trump loses in November.

[G_Money]

3 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Right.  Trump is a populist who scapegoats minorities, ignores established institutions, procedures, checks and balances, and has no respect for democracy, but that doesn't make him a fascist.

 

Oh wait, it kind of does.

That last batch of Kool-aid must of been extra potent.

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

Delusion.   and it's in your head

Delusion is a strong word.

 

The Russians are helping the Biden impeachment inquiry. You are delusional yourself if you don't know that.

 

Trump and the Republicans are denying aid to Ukraine right now

 

So, the collusion between Trump and Russia is obvious.

[Danderman123]

‘Who’s going to do that?’: Trump faces hurdles in securing appeal bond for fraud case

 

Bond agencies worry about collecting from Trump if he wins the November election.

[Danderman123]

Expert 'shocked' that 'angry' Trump lawyers just demanded 30-day stay of fraud judgment

 

Trump wants a 30 day stay.

 

It looks like he is having trouble getting a bond for his appeal.

 

It's a bad idea to go criming if you don't have the money to pay your lawyers and bonds.

[heybruce]

48 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

‘Who’s going to do that?’: Trump faces hurdles in securing appeal bond for fraud case

 

Bond agencies worry about collecting from Trump if he wins the November election.

That's silly.  They should be worried about collecting from Trump regardless of the outcome of the election.

[Danderman123]

2 minutes ago, heybruce said:

That's silly.  They should be worried about collecting from Trump regardless of the outcome of the election.

The problem for the bond agencies is trying to collect from a sitting president. They seem to think that's a big risk.

 

Also, its possible that a bond debt could be discharged in bankruptcy, whereas a state judgment cannot.

[heybruce]

9 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

The problem for the bond agencies is trying to collect from a sitting president. They seem to think that's a big risk.

 

Also, its possible that a bond debt could be discharged in bankruptcy, whereas a state judgment cannot.

Correct on both points.  However, would you want to have a very substantial sum of money tied up until such time as the Trump empire/house-of-cards is resolved in bankruptcy court?

[Peabody]

On 2/17/2024 at 4:38 PM, frank83628 said:

and if that is paid off what exactly is the issue?

Cuz it's fraud

[Roo Island]

2 hours ago, G_Money said:

That last batch of Kool-aid must of been extra potent.

He was spot on.