2 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

Can't eradicate Hamas. Millions of new sympathizers now world-wide. And to make matters worse for Israel, many are leaning the history leading to this atrocity.

So has/did ISIS, where are they now.........🤗

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

And? At the end of the day 80 ex US generals and me don't give a fig about the antisemitic Quincy

There is a reason why you or the generals is not in position to have politacal influence or power. Thank god

7 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

Can't eradicate Hamas. Millions of new sympathizers now world-wide. And to make matters worse for Israel, many are leaning the history leading to this atrocity.

For sure Palestinians winning the social media war, as they probably planned for. Israel went straight in to the trap, doing what they always have done. This time the palestinians no matter what happened 7 october, won the propaganda war. Israel got exactly what they paid for when supporting Hamas for decades., to create internal conflicts inside Gaza.

 

Horrible facts

5 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

Can't eradicate Hamas. Millions of new sympathizers now world-wide. And to make matters worse for Israel, many are leaning the history leading to this atrocity.

Oh gawd here we go, history is another topic not this one 

 

Why Did Hamas Attack Israel on Oct 7th 2023 a Historical Perspective

https://aseannow.com/topic/1324728-why-did-hamas-attack-israel-on-oct-7th-2023-a-historical-perspective/

 

1 minute ago, owl sees all said:

Can't eradicate Hamas. Millions of new sympathizers now world-wide. And to make matters worse for Israel, many are leaning the history leading to this atrocity.

This is a silly argument. The Allies never eradicated the Nazis in WWII, and there are millions of new Nazi sympathizers every year. 

 

They do not have to be eradicated; they only need to be degraded such that they no longer pose a significant threat. 

3 minutes ago, Hummin said:

There is a reason why you or the generals is not in position to have politacal influence or power. Thank god

Yes the reason I am not one of the generals is because I am British. 

3 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

Can't eradicate Hamas. Millions of new sympathizers now world-wide. And to make matters worse for Israel, many are leaning the history leading to this atrocity.

 

    Hamas can be eradicated and the process is already in motion

IMO, all these new young western supporters of Palestine  are having a detrimental effect on their cause 

4 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

Can't eradicate Hamas. Millions of new sympathizers now world-wide. And to make matters worse for Israel, many are leaning the history leading to this atrocity.

And only pro terrorists supporters ignore the captive hostages (dead or alive) and the gruesome event on Oct 7th, oh I know some posters don't like being reminded about that, but fear not we won't let you ever forget!

 

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    Hamas can be eradicated and the process is already in motion

IMO, all these new young western supporters of Palestine  are having a detrimental effect on their cause 

I don't hear of many Hamas being captured or killed. Just women and kids dying.

4 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

I don't hear of many Hamas being captured or killed. Just women and kids dying.

 

  That shows that you don't know what is going on in Gaza and that you only listen to pro Hamas news outlets .

  Other  Unbiased media outlets give different reports about there being minimal civilian casualties compared to other wars  

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  That shows that you don't know what is going on in Gaza and that you only listen to pro Hamas news outlets .

  Other  Unbiased media outlets give different reports about there being minimal civilian casualties compared to other wars  

Realy Nick.

 

The IDF force said that 20% of the people killed in Gaza were Hamas. So the 80% were not. That's about 25k+. Mostly women and kids.

There is a recent dedicated topic to Casually figures here:

 

UN Cuts Death of Women and Children in Gaza by Half

https://aseannow.com/topic/1327151-un-cuts-death-of-women-and-children-in-gaza-by-half/

 

If you want to carry on that discussion then I suggest you do so there.

 

24 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    Hamas can be eradicated and the process is already in motion

IMO, all these new young western supporters of Palestine  are having a detrimental effect on their cause 

The more I read of pro Israelis, I truly believe they hurt Israelis cause as much as pro Palestinians do, if not more.

 

To many hardcore religious nut cases, and also people without emphasis for palestinian women and children who never have been privileged, though living inside Gaza, resticted freedom, controlled by Isreal  and Hamas. All of them forced away from their homes, bombed, shot at, starved and with no safe heavens anywhere. 

 

Thats inhumane 

22 minutes ago, Hummin said:

The more I read of pro Israelis, I truly believe they hurt Israelis cause as much as pro Palestinians do, if not more.

 

To many hardcore religious nut cases, and also people without emphasis for palestinian women and children who never have been privileged, though living inside Gaza, resticted freedom, controlled by Isreal  and Hamas. All of them forced away from their homes, bombed, shot at, starved and with no safe heavens anywhere. 

 

Thats inhumane 

 

   War isn't pleasant at all and people suffer in wars .

Hostages are being help in inhumane conditions and the only way to release them is to go into Gaza and get them .

   Hamas are causing all the suffering of the Israelis and Palestinians 

8 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   War isn't pleasant at all and people suffer in wars .

Hostages are being help in inhumane conditions and the only way to release them is to go into Gaza and get them .

   Hamas are causing all the suffering of the Israelis and Palestinians 

Again going in circles, 

 

Sorry to say, Israels tactics have failed. Israel have failed the hostages by their invasion. Thats a fact

5 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Again going in circles, 

 

Sorry to say, Israels tactics have failed. Israel have failed the hostages by their invasion. Thats a fact

You're the only one going in circles. That's the fact. 

 

It was global hostage day yesterday. Listen/read  what they had to say.

 

 

Hamas tactics, hide amongst the civilians even with your RPG

 

This Islamic Jihad fighter is doing the old "hide my rifle or RPG in a rug while wearing civilian clothing, so the IDF does not notice I am a terrorist" tactic.

 

https://x.com/JoeTruzman/status/1791965103241490837

 

10 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Again going in circles, 

 

Sorry to say, Israels tactics have failed. Israel have failed the hostages by their invasion. Thats a fact

You saying that the Israeli tactics has failed is simply not true, they would have failed the hostages by not trying to save them and by not going into Gaza would have left the door open for future hostage taking and massacres. Now that's what I call a fact!

14 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Again going in circles, 

 

Sorry to say, Israels tactics have failed. Israel have failed the hostages by their invasion. Thats a fact

 

  Its an on going process and soon all the hostages will be freed .

Rafah is the final place  .

   Its also not a fact that Israel have failed the hostages , that's just your opinion 

57 minutes ago, Hummin said:

To many hardcore religious nut cases, and also people without emphasis for palestinian women and children who never have been privileged, though living inside Gaza, resticted freedom, controlled by Isreal  and Hamas

I agree with you, and this guy. 

 

 

3 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I agree with you, and this guy. 

 

 

Cloud cuckoo land. How do you get to a 2 state solution Neeranam? What needs to happen first?

1 hour ago, owl sees all said:

I don't hear of many Hamas being captured or killed. Just women and kids dying.

They capture UN medical experts, who are reportedly tortured to death. 

 

 

5 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I agree with you, and this guy. 

 

 

 

   Hopefully when Hamas have been eliminated and a new Palestinian leadership emerges , hopefully they will agree to a two state solution and they recognise Israel's right to exist .

56 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Cloud cuckoo land. How do you get to a 2 state solution Neeranam? What needs to happen first?

Can't see a 2 state ever working.

 

One answer could be one state where everyone is equal. and has equal rights. Any land that has been taken. given back to the people who it rightly belongs to.

Just now, owl sees all said:

Can't see a 2 state ever working.

 

One answer could be one state where everyone is equal. and has equal rights. Any land that has been taken. given back to the people who it rightly belongs to.

To Palestinians, that's all of Israel, so nice try, no cigar.

I agree two states can't work but neither can one state as you've described.

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Hopefully when Hamas have been eliminated and a new Palestinian leadership emerges , hopefully they will agree to a two state solution and they recognise Israel's right to exist .

I'm more hawkish than you influenced by reality.

Neither side wants a two state solution.

October 7 terrorists went after the most PEACENIK segments of the Israeli public. 

Trust in Palestinians has been killed completely for generations. Yes it was already bad but now it is totally gone.
Israel cannot and will not agree to a two state solution. They will correctly see that as a way for the Arab side to consolidate their military for their real and clear goal -- totally wiping out Israel. No other sovereign state would voluntary agree to designing their own national suicide. Why does much of the world expect the one tiny Jewish nation to do what they would never do?

1 minute ago, owl sees all said:

Can't see a 2 state ever working.

 

One answer could be one state where everyone is equal. and has equal rights. Any land that has been taken. given back to the people who it rightly belongs to.

Complex subject that requires more than a tweet and a whole lot of other steps to fall in place first. Like end to the war, easily done by releasing the hostages.

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Complex subject that requires more than a tweet and a whole lot of other steps to fall in place first. Like end to the war, easily done by releasing the hostages.

Release the hostages on both sides. I'm all for that.

1 minute ago, owl sees all said:

Release the hostages on both sides. I'm all for that.

So the Israelis are holding innocent toddlers and elderly Arab holocaust survivors?

Just now, owl sees all said:

Release the hostages on both sides. I'm all for that.

You just blew it, pathetic response