Only one in four British Muslims believe Hamas committed murder and rape in Israel, report

[BigBruv]

4 hours ago, transam said:

Oh dear, not recent, so it never happened.........😂

 

How about 2019 then...........😂

 

https://news.sky.com/story/how-the-london-bridge-terror-attack-unfolded-11874155

 

How about the ongoing Secret Service stuff thwarting Muslim terrorist stuff that we hear nothing about that happens....

 

I watched a vid last night, an ex. SAS member talking about stuff, he said that Islamic terrorist stuff is ongoing in the UK, it's out there....

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag

 

 

[transam]

Just now, BigBruv said:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag

 

 

Wrong thread, chap........🤭

[Brickleberry]

5 minutes ago, BigBruv said:

 

The same way Nazis ALLEGEDLY treated the Jews in WW2 (his-story is written by the victors)

 

But yes, Israel has completely lost the zoomer generation - part of the reason they're trying to shut down the tiktik app - the kids know whats up and aren't impressed.

 

 

 

 

Are you denying the holocaust? Damn, I'm pro Palestinian and anti Zionist, but I'm not antisemitic. The holocaust 100% happened man, and the treatment of Jewish people was horrific.

 

That doesn't give Western powers the right to refuse Jewish people the right to return to their homelands (Germany, Poland, Ukraine, Russia, USA, UK, France etc.) and to ship them off to Palestine.

[Brickleberry]

14 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Are you a recent Western convert to Islam ?

Nope. All religions are stupid.

[BigBruv]

3 hours ago, Hummin said:

Waste of time trying to explain our influence in all conflict areas and the endless political circle have triggered the terrorism we experience.

 

You are emotionally connected day to day headlines and have no interest to understand cause and reasons for this political world game of extortion of countries of strategic reasons, because of its location or resources. 

 

 

 

NPCs supporting the side *they're told to* in the same way they support 'their' football teams.

 

Squawking parrots with little knowledge / life experience outside the TV screen

[BigBruv]

29 minutes ago, Brickleberry said:

 

Are you denying the holocaust? Damn, I'm pro Palestinian and anti Zionist, but I'm not antisemitic. The holocaust 100% happened man, and the treatment of Jewish people was horrific.

 

That doesn't give Western powers the right to refuse Jewish people the right to return to their homelands (Germany, Poland, Ukraine, Russia, USA, UK, France etc.) and to ship them off to Palestine.

 

Homelands?

Do any of them look middle eastern to you?

 

Pasty europeans LARPing

 

 

[placnx]

22 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

That isn't true .   Unwatch is a Swiss non Governmental organisation and its not an Israeli organisation and it isn't paid for by Israel . UN watch also comment on numerous World issues, not just Israel .

   Of course people that don't follow world events and just are obsessed with Israel, they wouldn't know that 

From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_Watch

In 2001, [David A.] Harris announced that UN Watch had become a wholly owned subsidiary of the American Jewish Committee. According to a press release at the time, “UN Watch was established with the generous assistance of Edgar Bronfman, President of the World Jewish Congress. Eighteen months ago, the American Jewish Committee and the World Jewish Congress reached an agreement, approved by the international board of UN Watch, to transfer full control of the organization to AJC, an agreement that went into effect on January 1, 2001.”^[11]

 

Since 2013, UN Watch claimed it is no longer affiliated with AJC and is an independent organization.

 

Claudia Rosett, a journalist-in-residence with the conservative Foundation for Defense of Democracies, praised UN Watch as "stalwart and invaluable".^[64]

The American journalist and political activist 

Phyllis Bennis described UN Watch as a "small Geneva-based right-wing organisation" that is "hardly known outside of UN headquarters".^[65] She stressed that "undermining and delegitimising" Richard Falk through "scurrilous accusations" has been an "obsession of UN Watch" when he became Special Rapporteur.

[placnx]

22 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

What is really really sad is that Enoch Powell told everyone what was going to happen with unfetted immigration of people not 'suitable' or 'capable' of living in a modern democracy where there is a differentiation between the State and the Church - it just took a lot longer than he thought it would to become a serious problem.

 

Regarding divion between Church & State, you could be talking about Israel & the US, too.

[Rotweiler]

Consider that it took 11 days for the IDF to come up with the rape story..

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[BigBruv]

12 hours ago, Brickleberry said:

Nope. All religions are stupid.

 

In reality most still worship - they just don't realise it. Either 'the science' or other 'religions'

Eg. westerners are now allowed to blaspheme (Jesus Christ, f____ hell, holy s___ and so on) but, if you question a certain alleged event *everyone* starts clutching their pearls on mass - you;ll even get sent to prison in some countries.

 

 

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On 4/8/2024 at 10:02 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

How about all the videos of Israeli soldiers bombing and killing Palestinians? I don't know if they send those videos to their mothers or to other soldiers and I don't care. Fact is that those videos and actions exist as well. 

Quite right. This always happens in conflicts and especially in guerilla warfare. Hamas made a point of building military strong points in or under hospitals and schools. The fact that " don't know if they send those videos to their mothers or to other soldiers and I don't care." does suggest that you haven't quite grasped what is going on. Israel has constantly since about 1935 proposed a two state solution, retreated from occupied territory only, ageneartion later, to receive the same response: "Kill all the Jews". Maybe you didn't know about that either.

[OneMoreFarang]

46 minutes ago, cooked said:

Quite right. This always happens in conflicts and especially in guerilla warfare. Hamas made a point of building military strong points in or under hospitals and schools. The fact that " don't know if they send those videos to their mothers or to other soldiers and I don't care." does suggest that you haven't quite grasped what is going on. Israel has constantly since about 1935 proposed a two state solution, retreated from occupied territory only, ageneartion later, to receive the same response: "Kill all the Jews". Maybe you didn't know about that either.

Sure, Israel is peaceful and all that...

How about those roughly 500,000 illegal Israeli settlers? Does it help the peace when they build their houses on other people's land?

 

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2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Sure, Israel is peaceful and all that...

How about those roughly 500,000 illegal Israeli settlers? Does it help the peace when they build their houses on other people's land?

 

OK. Get them to agree to a two state solution and problems like this would be solved. Those Israelis would either become West Bank citizens or be forced to return. But Hamas (not present in the West Bank), Iran and Syria  wouldn't like that, would they? FFS go visit the place for yourself before believing all you read on the 'net. https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/348699

[Nick Carter icp]

2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Sure, Israel is peaceful and all that...

How about those roughly 500,000 illegal Israeli settlers? Does it help the peace when they build their houses on other people's land?

 

 

 

   They can live in a Palestine state  with equal rights just like Palestinians live in Israel

[placnx]

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

 

   They can live in a Palestine state  with equal rights just like Palestinians live in Israel

Unfortunately the settlers are not peaceable people, and there are too many. It would take an enormous prison and a a huge police force to arrest them. The Zionists manage to force 750,000 Palestinians out of present-day Israel in around 2 years, so with their technology it should not take to long to locate and transport the 700,000 setllers back to Israel or their countries of origin.

 

Arab citizens of Israel do not enjoy equal rights. There is a more subtle form of aparthed practiced there than in the West Bank.

[placnx]

2 hours ago, cooked said:

OK. Get them to agree to a two state solution and problems like this would be solved. Those Israelis would either become West Bank citizens or be forced to return. But Hamas (not present in the West Bank), Iran and Syria  wouldn't like that, would they? FFS go visit the place for yourself before believing all you read on the 'net. https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/348699

There were times when Hamas stated that they would accept a 2-state solution, but without strong international pressure that has been out of reach for years because of the settlements. Back in the days of Camp David (2000), there were only around 100,000 settlers (not sure whether that includes East Jerusalem).

[OneMoreFarang]

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

   They can live in a Palestine state  with equal rights just like Palestinians live in Israel

 

equal rights?

What a bad joke. 

[Bkk Brian]

19 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

equal rights?

What a bad joke. 

Not really, no one claims there is no discriminations as in all other countries but they do mostly have equal rights

 

Arab citizens have the same legal rights as Jewish Israelis, but they tend to live in poorer cities, have less formal education, and face other challenges that some experts attribute to structural discrimination.

https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/what-know-about-arab-citizens-israel

[OneMoreFarang]

30 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Not really, no one claims there is no discriminations as in all other countries but they do mostly have equal rights

 

Arab citizens have the same legal rights as Jewish Israelis, but they tend to live in poorer cities, have less formal education, and face other challenges that some experts attribute to structural discrimination.

https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/what-know-about-arab-citizens-israel

 

And then there are the Israeli settler with guns who tell the Palestinians to f#@$ off. And what can the Palestinians do about that? Nothing!

What a wonderful way to live in peace together. Or maybe not? 

[The Fugitive]

Just now, OneMoreFarang said:

 

And then there are the Israeli settler with guns who tell the Palestinians to f#@$ off. And what can the Palestinians do about that? Nothing!

What a wonderful way to live in peace together. Or maybe not? 

Agree. Terrible problems in the West Bank. If a two state solution was ever agreed, no way would West Bank Palestinians want Israeli illegal settlers remaining there. 

[Bkk Brian]

12 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

And then there are the Israeli settler with guns who tell the Palestinians to f#@$ off. And what can the Palestinians do about that? Nothing!

What a wonderful way to live in peace together. Or maybe not? 

But that's nothing to do with the previous post. The West Bank is another subject and one in which I also do not agree with the settlers being there.

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[candide]

5 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

 

   They can live in a Palestine state  with equal rights just like Palestinians live in Israel

Palestinians are allowed to settle in Israel?

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, candide said:

Palestinians are allowed to settle in Israel?

 

    Yes, Two million of them do so .

That is basic common knowledge at beginners level.

First class lesson 

[candide]

9 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    Yes, Two million of them do so .

That is basic common knowledge at beginners level.

First class lesson 

No. There were there before. They are not settlers.

No Palestinian currently outside Israel is allowed to settle in Israel, even if he was born there.

That's a false equivalence.

[Neeranam]

On 4/8/2024 at 6:27 PM, Brickleberry said:

 

Again, your only showing one lying organization that has skin in the game: It is a Jewish organization that wants to dismantle UNRWA!

 

You need to find 3rd party evidence my friend. No one with an education believes this tripe. Just find one solid piece of actual evidence.... oh wait, you can't!

 

 

There is only one way to deal with that guy. 

[Bkk Brian]

22 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

There is only one way to deal with that guy. 

Is that a threat Neeranam? It would not surprise me from you, he is Jewish after all

[Nick Carter icp]

2 hours ago, candide said:

No. There were there before. They are not settlers.

No Palestinian currently outside Israel is allowed to settle in Israel, even if he was born there.

That's a false equivalence.

 

   That is correct, its called the Jewish state of Israel .

Palestinians were given their own land

[Nick Carter icp]

5 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Not really, no one claims there is no discriminations as in all other countries but they do mostly have equal rights

 

Arab citizens have the same legal rights as Jewish Israelis, but they tend to live in poorer cities, have less formal education, and face other challenges that some experts attribute to structural discrimination.

https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/what-know-about-arab-citizens-israel

 

   Similar to minorities in Western Countries