Anutin tells Swiss man Urs Fehr he should go home

[Rampant Rabbit]

31 minutes ago, bob smith said:

No need to worry about me, SAFETY.

 

I have friends in high places.

 

bob.

some bird in 5 inch stilettos  doesnt count though

[connda]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

On Thursday, Deputy Prime Minister Anutin Charnvirakul (centre) again entered the controversy over Swiss national Urs Fehr (left). He even sent a social media message on the LINE app to Phuket’s governor Sophon Suwannarat. The Interior Minister warned of financial inducements being offered to have the case against Mr Fehr settled outside court. Mr Fehr faces a charge under Section 391 for assaulting Dr Thandao Chandam on February 24th 2024. At the same time, Mr Anutin is on record as assuring the Swiss man that his appeal against the cancellation of his visa will not succeed. Mr Anutin is the ultimate adjudicator under the 1979 Immigration Act.

If a Thai man kicked a foreign woman in the back, it would be a small fine and an apology.

[bob smith]

1 minute ago, connda said:

If a Thai man kicked a foreign woman in the back, it would be a small fine and an apology.

….500 baht and a wai is the going rate innit!

 

maybe a bunch of flowers too if she’s pretty.

 

bob.

[BigStar]

15 minutes ago, bob smith said:

do you think it is rational behavior for a public servant to tell a foreigner to ‘go home?’

 

bob.

 

An undesirable foreigner, in this case now famously undesirable, yes. Here the public servant enjoys the support of the Thai public--of which we aren't members; nor is Urs Fehr, merely residing in Thailand at the discretion of Immigration. He will be going home.

 

Edited April 13 by BigStar

[bob smith]

7 minutes ago, BigStar said:

An undesirable foreigner

says who?

 

the court of public opinion? (fakebook)

the court of undesirability?

 

how does one get judged to be undesirable?

who is the arbiter of such a profound and subjective statement?

let me guess, the Thai public?

😄 

 

it aint nothing but a witch hunt yo! …and you, as a presumably (correct me if i’m wrong) western educated person should definitely know better!

 

bob.

Edited April 13 by bob smith

[metisdead]

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[Ben Zioner]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

There is no question Thailand would be a better place without David Fehr on it's soil, he is a most foul man and seems to bring a dark cloud wherever he goes. 

Indeed, he chased off trespassers from his property, and gave the finger to an ambulance, what else?

[Gecko123]

51 minutes ago, BigStar said:

The visa revocation is within his legal authority and up to him.

 

This is true, but once the visa revocation was appealed to the courts, the final decision rests in the hands of the judicial system which is independent of the Department of the Interior. At least that's my understanding of how it's supposed to work.

[n00dle]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

The Interior Minister warned of financial inducements being offered to have the case against Mr Fehr settled outside court. Mr Fehr faces a charge under Section 391 for assaulting Dr Thandao Chandam on February 24th 2024. At the same time, Mr Anutin is on record as assuring the Swiss man that his appeal against the cancellation of his visa will not succeed. Mr Anutin is the ultimate adjudicator under the 1979 Immigration Act.

 

As I have said before  (and been called paranoid) this whole situation has gained momentum because it dovetails with "somebody" in the government's agenda.

[n00dle]

17 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said:

Indeed, he chased off trespassers from his property, and gave the finger to an ambulance, what else?

 

except it wasn't his property and they weren't trespassed and he kicked rather than chased. 

 

Other than that your post is factually accurate.

[n00dle]

58 minutes ago, connda said:

If a Thai man kicked a foreign woman in the back, it would be a small fine and an apology.

but that hasn't happened here has it?

[Goat]

22 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said:

Indeed, he chased off trespassers from his property, and gave the finger to an ambulance, what else?

Exploiting elephant cruelty for profit, paying money under the table.

[n00dle]

2 hours ago, worgeordie said:

bye David. your actions have caused a lot of problems

for Farangs in Phuket ....

 

Reprehensible as he is, Fehr is simply the ideal poster boy for "bad farang" caught up in the perfect media storm. If it wasn't him they would have found someone else 

[vinny41]

18 minutes ago, Gecko123 said:

 

This is true, but once the visa revocation was appealed to the courts, the final decision rests in the hands of the judicial system which is independent of the Department of the Interior. At least that's my understanding of how it's supposed to work.

appeals to visa revocation are not processed via courts or the  judicial system

appeal process is via immigration commission and Department of the Interior

Phuket Governor explains process here

https://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-governor-fehr-visa-appeal-will-be-heard-91929.php

[Ben Zioner]

11 minutes ago, Goat said:

Exploiting elephant cruelty for profit, paying money under the table.

We need proof...

[Ben Zioner]

11 minutes ago, n00dle said:

 

Reprehensible as he is, Fehr is simply the ideal poster boy for "bad farang" caught up in the perfect media storm. If it wasn't him they would have found someone else 

Totally, and this whole campaign looks more and more like Anutin driven. Be ready to go guys..

[mania]

Anutin should leave with him ...Oh wait....They won't let Anutin into Switzerland 🤣

 

 

[Gecko123]

39 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

appeals to visa revocation are not processed via courts or the  judicial system

appeal process is via immigration commission and Department of the Interior

Phuket Governor explains process here

https://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-governor-fehr-visa-appeal-will-be-heard-91929.php

Thank you for providing this clarification over who has jurisdiction over the case. I was not aware of this. I would still say Anutin should refrain from his "forgone conclusion" and "not on my watch" remarks. There seems to be a lot of murky details about what exactly happened (was the doctor actually kicked), the credibility of witnesses, etc., which local officials are in a much better position to evaluate than Anutin, sitting in Bangkok would be. My criticism thus shifts from "undermining the judiciary" to "micro managing his subordinates" and "grandstanding for political gain" at the possible expense of fairness and even handed administration of immigration law. 

Edited April 13 by Gecko123

[rexpotter]

Funny forum really. Most everyone who came here did it for one reason the first time or probably more. Now they’ve all matured, become better citizens and have become ‘Masters of Morality’. Very judgmental and horrified by any improper behavior, especially their own breed. I have to laugh.

[transam]

I think a bit strong chucking him out...........🤔

 

If his business(s) is squeaky clean, he can prove where his money comes from, he pays his dues for the assault, then carry on employing folk....🤗

[Korat Kiwi]

Call a spade a spade.  The dumb fakr did it.  Now he's sorry! 

 

Sorry he got caught. 

 

Did the crime... Do the time. And none of the alleged BS.   Too much of this PC bull dust floating about in today's society. 

 

Man up, fess up whatever you want to call it. I have more respect for someone who admits their mistakes than a plonker full of excuses. 

[transam]

5 minutes ago, Korat Kiwi said:

Call a spade a spade.  The dumb fakr did it.  Now he's sorry! 

 

Sorry he got caught. 

 

Did the crime... Do the time. And none of the alleged BS.   Too much of this PC bull dust floating about in today's society. 

 

Man up, fess up whatever you want to call it. I have more respect for someone who admits their mistakes than a plonker full of excuses. 

I believe he has fessed up, he is waiting to go on trial.........😉

[bob smith]

55 minutes ago, mania said:

Anutin should leave with him ...Oh wait....They won't let Anutin into Switzerland 🤣

 

 

“….This time, it’s PERSONAL!!”

 

Anutin Strikes Back!

 

Bob.

[zakalwe]

From Chatgpt:
Yes, in Thailand, the Ministry of the Interior oversees immigration matters. The Department of Immigration, which operates under the Ministry of Interior, is responsible for regulating the entry, stay, and exit of foreigners in Thailand. This department manages visa issuance, work permits, residence permits, and other immigration-related services. Additionally, the Royal Thai Police, under the Ministry of Interior, also plays a significant role in enforcing immigration laws and policies.

 

This seems to jive with everything I read so far. So Anutin >>>>>> governors and immigration departments

 

So uh, deputy prime ministers in Thailand have a bit of power.

 

Edited April 13 by zakalwe

[Carlotta]

4 hours ago, bob smith said:

Commenting in this manner publicly by a senior member of government during an ongoing investigation is both unprofessional and extremely dangerous.

 

He is, in effect, subverting the rule of law by turning it into a personal vendetta motivated by his general dislike for farangs.

 

Shocking behavior as always.

Swiss david doesn’t stand a chance of a fair trial.

Not that I expected anything different..

TIT!…

 

(Or is it China? Sometimes the line is so blurred I can barely tell the difference!)

 

Bob.

The Swiss lived long enough in Thailand to know the culture, rules and laws. There are NO excuses for his behaviour. Now please 1. Compensation, 2. Jail, 3. Ban, 4. Outta!!! Never come back. ...and take his assets maybe too.🙏 Anutin's statement is just the mainstream. So what?

[sandrew33]

4 hours ago, Ben Zioner said:

Is the minister of interior obstructing the course of justice? How can a matter follow its course in court while Anustin states he will decide on the outcome. Thailand definitely is a great democracy, the Land of the free.

I think you meant “land of the fee “ 

[Zack61]

3 hours ago, Hummin said:

Im not sure what is correct, but always heard they pay to get their position. 

Quite likely. Most government positions have a price tag on them. Even entry level positions come with a fairly hefty price amounting to well over a year’s salary. 
There’d be some serious dosh up for a Governor position (x77 provinces)

[spidermike007]

1 hour ago, Ben Zioner said:

Indeed, he chased off trespassers from his property, and gave the finger to an ambulance, what else?

And where there is smoke there is fire, it is likely that this guy's been misbehaving for years and these are just a couple of things that he was caught doing. His general attitude stinks, he is one of those over entitled schmucks who just simply has too much cash in his pocket.

 

His mother simply did not do a very good job raising him. See ya David. We won't miss you. 

[Iforbach]

Get p r ik out. Too many farangs kicking off last one hvin a dump unreal 

[Hummin]

7 minutes ago, Zack61 said:

Quite likely. Most government positions have a price tag on them. Even entry level positions come with a fairly hefty price amounting to well over a year’s salary. 
There’d be some serious dosh up for a Governor position (x77 provinces)

Village boss came here with 2000 baht to us, so we would vote for her, and the new candidate paid only 800,