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Always tired and weak.

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My first blood pressure medication made me dizzy. So I switched to: AMLODIPIN-VALSARTAN 5mg/80mg. Works fine concerning blood pressure.


BUT: After a good nights sleep I wake up tired and weak. This condition prevails during the whole day.


Is this medication the "culprit"? If yes, what other medication should I try?

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  • Hve you made any other changes to your diet or lifestyle in combination with the medication? What did your dr say about side effects and temporary effect? 

  • Get a full health checkup with a GP including all the standard labs. If that doesn't show anything, consider finding a functional medicine practitioner. They are doctors whose approach is a little dif

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2 minutes ago, swissie said:

My first blood pressure medication made me dizzy. So I switched to: AMLODIPIN-VALSARTAN 5mg/80mg. Works fine concerning blood pressure.


BUT: After a good nights sleep I wake up tired and weak. This condition prevails during the whole day.


Is this medication the "culprit"? If yes, what other medication should I try?

Hve you made any other changes to your diet or lifestyle in combination with the medication? What did your dr say about side effects and temporary effect? 

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11 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Hve you made any other changes to your diet or lifestyle in combination with the medication? What did your dr say about side effects and temporary effect? 

No change of lifestyle or diet. On the package it reads "can cause sleepyness". But if does not mention "weakness". The constant state of "weakness" concerns me most. To operate a vaccum cleaner for 10 minutes causes "exhaustion".

 

Routine blood tests show no negative results in any way and my Doctor claims: "For your age you are in good shape, see you next year".

5 minutes ago, swissie said:

"For your age you are in good shape, see you next year".

Must be great to hear, especially when its not what you would like to hear. 

 

Ask for an specialist. 

 

No other possible interactions with other medicines or food?

Ask your Doctor if Lisinopril would be suitable for you (I hear good things) - also maybe consult with a different Doctor as potential side effects should not be ignored, even if they may eventually 'go away' as you become accustomed to taking the drug.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Must be great to hear, especially when its not what you would like to hear. 

 

Ask for an specialist. 

 

No other possible interactions with other medicines or food?

Also: Tablets for mild diabetes and cholesterol.

 

What specialist should I consult for "chronic unexplainable weakness"?

1 minute ago, swissie said:

Also: Tablets for mild diabetes and cholesterol.

 

What specialist should I consult for "chronic unexplainable weakness"?

A specialists on bloopressure medication, or also anti age dr checking your blood panel for other causes. 

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10 minutes ago, swissie said:

Also: Tablets for mild diabetes and cholesterol.

 

What specialist should I consult for "chronic unexplainable weakness"?

 

Get a full health checkup with a GP including all the standard labs. If that doesn't show anything, consider finding a functional medicine practitioner. They are doctors whose approach is a little different, and ask the all-important question of "Why is someone ill i.e. what is causing their symptoms?" They don't just treat patients using standard protocols as most doctors in the west do, but look for the root cause. So they may do a deeper dive than your typical GP, testing for vitamin and nutrient deficiencies, testing your gut microbiome and things like that.

10 minutes ago, swissie said:

Also: Tablets for mild diabetes and cholesterol.

 

What specialist should I consult for "chronic unexplainable weakness"?

Maybe just ask to try a different BP medicine as there are lots of choices.

 

re: cholesterol....several years ago i took bestatin a thai cholesterol drug...i think it was 20 mg....after month or two started to get some really bad twitching of my calf muscles...didn't hurt but more of a tickle and i could sit and look at the calf muscles twitching...i was then a five mile a day walker and thought maybe that was the problem...ultimately found that one of the side effects was muscle twitches...switched to different med, cholesterol fine and twitch stopped almost completely....taught me that there are side effects and worth changing meds to see if different result...good luck

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5 minutes ago, Hummin said:

A specialists on bloopressure medication, or also anti age dr checking your blood panel for other causes. 

Well, here it is: Blood Panel consists of 2 pages: Everything ok. I may need to go stationary to a hospital for a truly big check up. If inconclusive, I may want to consult a Haitian Woodoo Priest.

28 minutes ago, swissie said:

I may want to consult a Haitian Woodoo Priest

call the health food stores in your home country.

speak to a homeopath/naturopath/ or the owner of the place.

they usually know alternatives to Big Pharma which have less side effects. 

and will do phone consultations.

 

11 hours ago, swissie said:

My first blood pressure medication made me dizzy. So I switched to: AMLODIPIN-VALSARTAN 5mg/80mg. Works fine concerning blood pressure.


BUT: After a good nights sleep I wake up tired and weak. This condition prevails during the whole day.


Is this medication the "culprit"? If yes, what other medication should I try?

Have you had COVID or the mRNA vaccine? These can cause long term weakness and fatigue. If you wish to follow up I have a couple of recent articles from the Guardian where readers have had a bad time. I have had a very hard time trying to persuade any Thai doctor to investigate my fatigue problem, even though I have hard evidence that it started around the time I had the vaccines. 

Is your BP adequately controlled? There are so many different types of medicine for BP control that you should be able to find a combination of low doses of different classes that will be low side effects/high efficacy. I took the lowest available dose of 3 different types of BP medication and had good control with no side effects. I now take the lowest does of atenolol 25 mg and my BP is perfect....a bit low really. 

11 hours ago, swissie said:

My first blood pressure medication made me dizzy. So I switched to: AMLODIPIN-VALSARTAN 5mg/80mg. Works fine concerning blood pressure.


BUT: After a good nights sleep I wake up tired and weak. This condition prevails during the whole day.


Is this medication the "culprit"? If yes, what other medication should I try?

Hmmmm....often a result of diet and too much alcohol. The reason for almost all diseases is traced to diet. Garbage in...garbage out!

11 hours ago, swissie said:

No change of lifestyle or diet. On the package it reads "can cause sleepyness". But if does not mention "weakness". The constant state of "weakness" concerns me most. To operate a vaccum cleaner for 10 minutes causes "exhaustion".

 

Routine blood tests show no negative results in any way and my Doctor claims: "For your age you are in good shape, see you next year".

how can you be put on blood pressure medicine if you are in "good shape"?  And yes, the COVID vaccines have had some strange effects on some people.  as mentioned by someone else a diet change might make the high BP disappear too and no side effects from natural foods that can lower your BP.

11 hours ago, swissie said:

No change of lifestyle or diet. On the package it reads "can cause sleepyness". But if does not mention "weakness". The constant state of "weakness" concerns me most. To operate a vaccum cleaner for 10 minutes causes "exhaustion".

 

Routine blood tests show no negative results in any way and my Doctor claims: "For your age you are in good shape, see you next year".

I personally would get a second opinion 

11 hours ago, swissie said:

No change of lifestyle or diet. On the package it reads "can cause sleepyness". But if does not mention "weakness". The constant state of "weakness" concerns me most. To operate a vaccum cleaner for 10 minutes causes "exhaustion".

 

Routine blood tests show no negative results in any way and my Doctor claims: "For your age you are in good shape, see you next year".

An amlopidine side effect description I have seen states "fatigue". I guess is a matter of interpretation as to that infers  sleepyness or weakness.

I have mild BP and  mild copd . It is the copd that at times saps me .

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10 hours ago, save the frogs said:

call the health food stores in your home country.

speak to a homeopath/naturopath/ or the owner of the place.

they usually know alternatives to Big Pharma which have less side effects. 

and will do phone consultations.

 

 

This must be a candidate for the worse piece of advice on a health issue I have ever seen on this forum

Yes, this can definitely be from the medication and it is probably the amlodopine component to blame.

 

You might try Valalsartan (or similar drug) alone. Discuss with your doctor and monitor BP closely after the change to make sure still controlled. 

14 hours ago, swissie said:

My first blood pressure medication made me dizzy. So I switched to: AMLODIPIN-VALSARTAN 5mg/80mg. Works fine concerning blood pressure.


BUT: After a good nights sleep I wake up tired and weak. This condition prevails during the whole day.


Is this medication the "culprit"? If yes, what other medication should I try?

 

I also have to control blood pressure, being an insulin depedent Type 2 diabetic. For several years now, I take 2 tablets per day - AMLODIPINE 5mg and ANGILOCK 50mg.  I have never experienced any adverse effects. Yes, I do get tired of an afternoon especially during the very hot and humid weather, but after a siesta no problems.

Is this a doc in Thailand that gave you the medication.

 My brother back home He has since pass away on BP medication I no longer have the list but there was one after taking I thought he was having another stroke.I I ask him he daid the same think I called up his doctor next day he was told to stop another was given.

2 hours ago, jayboy said:

 

This must be a candidate for the worse piece of advice on a health issue I have ever seen on this forum

You clearly haven't been a long-term visitor to this forum!! 🙂

15 hours ago, swissie said:

My first blood pressure medication made me dizzy. So I switched to: AMLODIPIN-VALSARTAN 5mg/80mg. Works fine concerning blood pressure.


BUT: After a good nights sleep I wake up tired and weak. This condition prevails during the whole day.


Is this medication the "culprit"? If yes, what other medication should I try?

Read the leaflet.

It's mentioned there, typical side effects 🙏

15 hours ago, swissie said:

Also: Tablets for mild diabetes and cholesterol.

 

What specialist should I consult for "chronic unexplainable weakness"?

It's NOT unexplainable! Read the leaflet: side effects

Lethargy can be caused by vitamin B deficiency and is common as we age plus many meds block the uptake of this vitamin. Have your vitamin B levels checked. Injections are available for people with a deficiency.

On 6/20/2024 at 7:42 PM, swissie said:

What specialist should I consult for "chronic unexplainable weakness"?

Endocrinologist.

4 hours ago, john donson said:

are you seriously overweight, beer belly and eat junk ?

 

that's about 90% here, 

On 6/21/2024 at 1:42 AM, swissie said:

Also: Tablets for mild diabetes and cholesterol.

 

What specialist should I consult for "chronic unexplainable weakness"?

 

time to do a deep dive research on your diet choices .... 

T2 diabetes is reversable with a keto or carnivore diet

insulin resistance is reversable

cholesterol .. is essential  ...

do your research on the effects of carbs / sugar / processed foods  / seed oils / alcohol

you can mend your body !

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