Are these people stark raving mad?

[Purdey]

I believe that Trump can't afford to lose the election if he wants to stay out of jail.

He needs to give himself a pardon or die in prison.

[frank83628]

On 9/21/2024 at 7:12 PM, BarraMarra said:

Have you forgot Trumps remarks when he was discussing the Military a while back informing the public they were suckers and losers. 

he didn't say that at all, totally made up BS by the Atlantic, using 'anonymous sources' and then repeated by msm and bumbling Biden and lapped up by fools like you amnd the derangment crew. check snopes the fact checking site yourself.

 

[Snackbar]

Ridiculous garbage 

[Wrwest]

On 9/21/2024 at 1:21 PM, Jingthing said:

What a load!

He has said many times and very clearly that if he loses, then it was rigged.

That means to any person with basic logic the same thing as that he won't accept losing.

For Chrissakes, he hasn't even conceded the last election that he lost.

Do you need to be hit over the head with what he is for it to sink in?

Foreign or domestic trolls do not warrant our attention. My Absentee Ballot mailed today!

[Wrwest]

On 9/21/2024 at 1:39 PM, blazes said:

Strange how all over American Pravda, it is taken for granted that if anyone is going to question the election results, it will be the GOP.

But the Dems never accepted the Clinton defeat and insisted falsely that the Russians (again and again) were  about  to take over; in the four years since Trump has been out of office he has been subjected to the full weight of lawfare that the Dem regime could throw at him. 

Plus, with all the insistence of Nazi propaganda, they call Trump a "threat to democracy" and are not surprised when someone believes the lie and tries to assassinate this threat.

Who actually believes that the Dems will quietly accept a Trump victory and will refrain from doing everything in their  power to remove the "threat to democracy.."??

As long as this clear and present danger exits, his threat to my country will be taken dead seriously. 

[nauseus]

On 9/21/2024 at 1:13 PM, CM Dad said:

Yes Malcolm, they are stark raving mad.  I am a veteran and I could never support a lying, cowardly, draft-dodger like Mr. Trump or any of his right-wing cohorts.

 

 

https://www.military.com/daily-news/opinions/2024/05/31/americas-veterans-need-second-term-of-president-trump.html

 

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2019/07/10/trump-draws-stronger-support-from-veterans-than-from-the-public-on-leadership-of-u-s-military/

On 9/21/2024 at 1:13 PM, CM Dad said:

Yes Malcolm, they are stark raving mad.  I am a veteran and I could never support a lying, cowardly, draft-dodger like Mr. Trump or any of his right-wing cohorts.

 

Try not to credit these foreign "documentaries" too much.

 

Do you have any veteran buddies that do support Trump?

 

Respectfully. 

[BarraMarra]

suppose this is all lies then Frank explain this.

 

 

 

[rasg]

15 hours ago, johng said:

Ha ha ha   you need to look somewhere other than Wikipedia.

I laughed too when he came out with that one.

[rasg]

16 hours ago, placeholder said:

Here's what you claimed:

"The speaker of the house released a lot of the CCTV from the Capitol that day and if you ever get to see it, you will know that you are totally wrong. J6 was a set up. Pelosi has recently been shown on video saying that it was mainly her fault for refusing Trump's offer of 10,000 of the National Guard."

 

No evidence exists that Trump offered her 10000 National Guard troops.

 

What we do know is that Trump stayed glued to his television set rather than order the National Guard in.  And he waited 187 minutes from the time of his speech rather than ask the rioters to leave. And this is testimony from his own staff and republicans who were in attendance at the White House

https://archive.ph/6Gzhj

 

And if  you need a reminder of why they're called rioters, here it is:

 

It was very well documented that Trump offered her 10,000 National Guardsman. It was the police that allowed the people into the Capitol and they started the trouble by using tear gas and other munitions.

[rasg]

13 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

You seem to very confused about how professional news outlets work.

 

On one hand they have editorials, op-eds, personal commentary, viewpoints which may well be written from a certain perspective.

 

On the other hand they report news based on evidence that is gathered and then present that news.

 

You really need to try harder.

 

 

Let's see how many are left in a years time. The presenters are dropping like flies.

[rasg]

8 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

He may not be stark raving mad, whatever that means, but he is quite insane, and unhinged, and he is a narcissistic psychopath, in addition to being a multiple felon.

Almost every word in your paragraph is nonsense. Every one of the "court cases" against him you refer to are dead in the water. He has an ego the size of a small planet but that is as far as it goes.

[rasg]

7 hours ago, bradiston said:

https://bbc.com/news/articles/cn8jg11ynj7o

 

Kamala is a commie according to Elon Pus.

You only have to look at her and Bidens' policies over the last 3 and a half years and her history in California to know that's is true.

[rasg]

8 hours ago, bradiston said:

Sure, I understand. But there again, I don't suppose Bangladesh imports an exploitable impoverished desperate army of cheap labour, unless you count the Rohingya. The rich countries do it in the main. I guess communist china doesn't as they have a ready made source of cheap labour - the much less well off Chinese, probably from ethnic minorities, not Han. And Russia definitely imports cheap labour from all those annexed central Asian satellite soviet countries. And India has a conveniently nuanced caste system where the West has class. So yes, I guess you have a point. But to run an economy or a business successfully, your income must exceed your expenditure. That's called profit. And that to me is a sine qua non of capitalism. And probably of any other business model. To each according to his needs, from each according to his ability. Apparently there's a huge disinformation campaign backed by the Kremlin branding Kamala a communist, especially targeting Latino voters from heavy socialist fxxx ups like Venezuela and Bolivia. This has been bought by the MAGA morons who wouldn't know a Marxist dialectic if it grabbed them by the testicles and and swung them around the room. But they love expanding and promoting this utter BS. Like Vance said, lying's completely acceptable in certain circumstances. Put that on his gravestone.

Interesting. So what do you call what Biden and Harris have been doing for 3 and a half years and Harris in California for 10?

[rasg]

7 hours ago, Purdey said:

I believe that Trump can't afford to lose the election if he wants to stay out of jail.

He needs to give himself a pardon or die in prison.

And what would that be for? Every case against him is dead in the water. It's DOJ lawfare. All these nitwits who think that so many court cases thrown at him in the year leading up to the election are a coincidence.

[bendejo]

13 hours ago, bradiston said:

Maybe this?

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Sealand

 

Have to say it doesn't look too inviting. Not sure I'd make the trip for that!

 

Thanks to all who responded to this.  I believe this is what I read about back then, though I thought it was in Wired magazine in 1999 or so.

Quote

In January 2007, The Pirate Bay, an online index of digital content of entertainment media and software founded by the Swedish think tank Piratbyrån, attempted to purchase Sealand after harsher copyright measures in Sweden forced them to look for a base of operations elsewhere.

 

On a related LOS note, there was a torrent hacker (European) who was put on an international wanted list, and he was nabbed entering Thailand from Lao.  When busted, he was wearing the same t-shirt as in his pic on the wanted alert.

 

[rasg]

For anybody in this thread who thinks Trump is guilty of any of the five lawfare cases that have been brought against him should, watch this. It's just over 3 minutes long.
 

 

Edited September 23 by rasg

[placeholder]

7 hours ago, rasg said:

It was very well documented that Trump offered her 10,000 National Guardsman. It was the police that allowed the people into the Capitol and they started the trouble by using tear gas and other munitions.

Trump's offer is so well documented that you don't even provide a link to it. 

[placeholder]

7 hours ago, rasg said:

It was very well documented that Trump offered her 10,000 National Guardsman. It was the police that allowed the people into the Capitol and they started the trouble by using tear gas and other munitions.

So,, according to you, on the one hand the police used tear gas and other munitions on the rioters, but on the other hand, they let them in. Doublethink much?

 

 

[john donson]

On 9/21/2024 at 11:51 AM, soalbundy said:

The military are inherently right wing but they live in a democratic country and are duty bound to accept the election results, any uprising using violence is an act of treason. That scenario is highly unlikely, it would be a catastrophe for America and wouldn't be accepted by western governments who would turn their backs on the insurgents.

 

did americans vote for wasting money in ukraine instead of helping american people, infrastructure and whatever ?  no homeless and illegals enough ?

[soalbundy]

23 minutes ago, john donson said:

 

did americans vote for wasting money in ukraine instead of helping american people, infrastructure and whatever ?  no homeless and illegals enough ?

You have the government you have, giving in to fractious mob rule would lead to chaos. Government policies, especially global politics, are complicated with many points to consider beyond domestic considerations. The considerations regarding housing has become a problem worldwide, certainly in all western countries, but it has been made worse by the greed of large organizations such as 'Black Rock' among others. Government power to alter such situations is limited as capitalism has a different agenda. As for Ukraine, its again complicated, geopolitics, money, the military industrial complex, Nato, verses Russia, etc. but one thing is certain, appeasement towards aggression is never a good idea, WW2 could have been averted if Britain and France had acted immediately when Germany reoccupied the Reinland, Hitler said as much to his generals when he ordered the troops in, he would withdraw at the first sign of military opposition......there was none. Ukraine's security is important to the west, it would be a mistake to encourage a despot like Putin who, if unchecked, would go farther than Ukraine. It is unfortunate that there is no longer a global world power, America gave up that baton during the Vietnam war (which really was completely unnecessary), instead power is now fragmented into blocks, the US and Europe on one side and China and Russia on the other (very simply put) with nobody trusting the other and each member of the blocks failing economically, the world is awash in debt and consequently aggression and populations wanting answers and solutions where there are none despite demagogues like Trump or Putin insisting there are simple solutions,  honesty, such as that displayed by Churchill in WW2 where he said to the public, "I have nothing to offer you except blood, toil, sweat and tears," is missing in our leaders today who refuse to tell it as it is. There will be better times but the world will have to go through a dark valley of hardship first........just my opinion. 

[MalcolmB]

15 hours ago, frank83628 said:

he didn't say that at all, totally made up BS by the Atlantic, using 'anonymous sources' and then repeated by msm and bumbling Biden and lapped up by fools like you amnd the derangment crew. check snopes the fact checking site yourself.

 

Trump wouldn’t lie would he

[MalcolmB]

22 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

the world is awash in debt and consequently aggression and populations wanting answers and solutions where there are none

Very true.

People who can not understand it which is most of the population and a very high number of Trump supporters need someone to blame, so Trumps rhetoric appeals to them.

They are unaware that he plunged them a lot further into debt, and he won’t admit that just repeating the “the economy was never better when I was in charge” nonsense.

They are suckers and as a result, losers.

[frank83628]

12 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

suppose this is all lies then Frank explain this.

 

 

 

what am i supposed to be looking at ? it's 3 minutes of absolutely nothing. 

so as i said above, anonymous sources and a fictitious article.  you know the saying, fool me once...... how much of a fool do you feel? does it increase daily

[herfiehandbag]

On 9/21/2024 at 1:29 PM, Keep Right said:

While I will accept the results of the election no matter how corrupt the Democrats are, I do sympathize with the patriot, American loving veterans who will feel betrayed by the election of a socialist, globalist, word salad speaking diversity hired vice President.

In itself something of a word salad, is It not?

[bradiston]

10 hours ago, rasg said:

Interesting. So what do you call what Biden and Harris have been doing for 3 and a half years and Harris in California for 10?

Explain

[MalcolmB]

5 hours ago, rasg said:

For anybody in this thread who thinks Trump is guilty of any of the five lawfare cases that have been brought against him should, watch this. It's just over 3 minutes long.
 

 

Headlines like  “Meghan Kelly DESTROYS……” is popular clickbait that comes from both sides and this style has come out of the USA.

It is the sort of rubbish that the stark raving mad get sucked in by. Megan didn’t DESTROY anybody.

Didnt she get sacked from Faux?

Edited September 24 by MalcolmB

[MalcolmB]

53 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

word salad

Word salad is the new buzzword.

 

 

Buzzword is an older version of a buzzword. 

[BarraMarra]

2 hours ago, frank83628 said:

what am i supposed to be looking at ? it's 3 minutes of absolutely nothing. 

so as i said above, anonymous sources and a fictitious article.  you know the saying, fool me once...... how much of a fool do you feel? does it increase daily

Of course its Fictitious Frank its how people like you see anything that goes against Trump. Made up, conspiracies, lies there all out to get Trump. Is there anything you can admit that Trump did ? 

[frank83628]

39 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Of course its Fictitious Frank its how people like you see anything that goes against Trump. Made up, conspiracies, lies there all out to get Trump. Is there anything you can admit that Trump did ? 

so tell me what i am supposed to be listening to, where is the 'gotcha'??

 at 35 seconds, the guy say there is no tape of this happening, so that means NO EVIDENCE trump said it, and he strenuously denies it.
2:35 minutes, the former 'bodyman' for Trump says he was with him the entire day, and it wasn't said.

so, that leaves an un-named administration official, is that your proof right? an anonymous official? nothing on record, no video or audio, and an anonymous source?

i think you need some councilling as you are way up on the acronym scale, its's probably affecting your blood pressure too.

 

if you are referring to the bit about McCain, if you watch the full clip, he calls McCain a loser in reference go his presidential bit, NOT for his military service. he does diss McCain then, but that has been rectified since. they had both been disparaging to each other.

[Will B Good]

2 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

2:35 minutes, the former 'bodyman' for Trump says he was with him the entire day,

 

 

Trump spent the entire day with the doorman.......555........give it a rest.