The 2 stratetic errors of the Democrats.

[swissie]

The 2 stratetic errors of the Democrats.

a) Accross party lines, most Americans want some sort of "Deportations" of illegals. (Kamala has not joined this bandwagon).

b) There is a number of white voters that will never vote for a black female for president. Under no circumstances.

Those missing 1 to 2 % will prevent Kamala from becoming president.

2 stratetic errors of epic proportions.

[riclag]

You think so?

Polling shows despite her winning black votes she is down 20% from past dem Presidents.

I agree about the deportations!

But I think Trump has to start with the criminal element first!It will be tough getting at the sanctuary city element, don’t you think?

[thaibeachlovers]

12 hours ago, swissie said:

The 2 stratetic errors of the Democrats.

a) Accross party lines, most Americans want some sort of "Deportations" of illegals. (Kamala has not joined this bandwagon).

b) There is a number of white voters that will never vote for a black female for president. Under no circumstances.

Those missing 1 to 2 % will prevent Kamala from becoming president.

2 stratetic errors of epic proportions.

I don't know that I agree with b. HRC almost won simply because she was the Democrat candidate, so I expect similar for Harris. The only question is whether enough in the swing states want a Democrat in the W H or hate Trump enough to vote for her.

 

I'd have b/ as Harris. It's hard to believe they don't have anyone better than she.

[mdr224]

Kamalas not black! People are so god damn dumb i wouldnt be surprised if she were elected. How many americans know that shes not black?

[RetiredNavy71]

14 hours ago, swissie said:

The 2 stratetic errors of the Democrats.

a) Accross party lines, most Americans want some sort of "Deportations" of illegals. (Kamala has not joined this bandwagon).

b) There is a number of white voters that will never vote for a black female for president. Under no circumstances.

Those missing 1 to 2 % will prevent Kamala from becoming president.

2 stratetic errors of epic proportions.

So what makes you an expert regarding voting in America? Stick to what you know and the world will be a better place.  Oh by the way learn how to spell

[Thingamabob]

2 hours ago, mdr224 said:

Kamalas not black! People are so god damn dumb i wouldnt be surprised if she were elected. How many americans know that shes not black?

Most people refer to her as  coloured, not that it matters. By all current accounts she's now way behind Trump in voting intentions.

[jippytum]

14 hours ago, swissie said:

The 2 stratetic errors of the Democrats.

a) Accross party lines, most Americans want some sort of "Deportations" of illegals. (Kamala has not joined this bandwagon).

b) There is a number of white voters that will never vote for a black female for president. Under no circumstances.

Those missing 1 to 2 % will prevent Kamala from becoming president.

2 stratetic errors of epic proportions.

You nailed it 

[AndreasHG]

16 hours ago, swissie said:

Those missing 1 to 2 % will prevent Kamala from becoming president.

 

It takes a very poor opponent to lose against Donald Trump.

A terrible opponent.

It's a nearly impossible feat, and one that Democrats appear poised to accomplish twice.

I keep my fingers crossed, but I know it's not going to suffice.

 

Edited October 24 by AndreasHG

[WDSmart]

17 hours ago, swissie said:

The 2 stratetic errors of the Democrats.

a) Accross party lines, most Americans want some sort of "Deportations" of illegals. (Kamala has not joined this bandwagon).

b) There is a number of white voters that will never vote for a black female for president. Under no circumstances.

Those missing 1 to 2 % will prevent Kamala from becoming president.

2 stratetic errors of epic proportions.

As a citizen of the USA and a Democrat, I don't see these as "strategic errors."

a) Kamala admits our border policy is broken, but that's been the case for many, many years. Also, the current immigration policies already include deportation if the immigrant is found to not meet the qualifications for being a refugee.

b) Race and gender discrimination are not "strategic errors" of the Democrats. They are unwelcome traits of some people of all political parties.

Edited October 24 by WDSmart

[cardinalblue]

And bigger strategic errors are being made by the Republicans by choosing Trump...Ukraine and Taiwan will fall within two years if Trump is elected by his cult members...As Trump will pull back forces/support/money out of SE Asia...China will meet little resistance if it wishes to expand its domination of SE Asia which will include Thailand...It might be time for expats to enrol in some Chinese language classes in two weeks

[DUNROAMIN]

No 1 strategic error sumed  up in two words.

KAMALA HARRIS.

[Purdey]

Funny but I seem to remember cross party legislation to mitigate border problems that was shut down by Trump.

Please do tell me what I misunderstood.

[AgMech Cowboy]

22 hours ago, swissie said:

b) There is a number of white voters that will never vote for a black female for president. Under no circumstances.

She's not 'black'. That's one of the bigger lies.

[Doug F]

I'm an American, and I'm voting for Harris. If your not American, you aren't voting at all. 

a.) There was a bipartisan bill that addressed border issues that Trump had blocked. You share NO EVIDENCE of your claim that most Americans want deportations of immigrants. I don't believe your statement. 

b.) Again no evidence for your contention that there are 1-2% who will never vote for a black woman.

I notice racist and fascist undertones in the comments. That's unfortunate. We Americans will vote. The outcome is in OUR hands....Deal with it!

....STRATEGIC....

 

[Cryingdick]

28 minutes ago, Doug F said:

I'm an American, and I'm voting for Harris. If your not American, you aren't voting at all. 

a.) There was a bipartisan bill that addressed border issues that Trump had blocked. You share NO EVIDENCE of your claim that most Americans want deportations of immigrants. I don't believe your statement. 

b.) Again no evidence for your contention that there are 1-2% who will never vote for a black woman.

I notice racist and fascist undertones in the comments. That's unfortunate. We Americans will vote. The outcome is in OUR hands....Deal with it!

....STRATEGIC....

 

 

Trump wasn't in office so he couldn't block it. That bill wasn't passing anyway. 

[wwest5829]

On 10/23/2024 at 9:11 PM, swissie said:

The 2 stratetic errors of the Democrats.

a) Accross party lines, most Americans want some sort of "Deportations" of illegals. (Kamala has not joined this bandwagon).

b) There is a number of white voters that will never vote for a black female for president. Under no circumstances.

Those missing 1 to 2 % will prevent Kamala from becoming president.

2 stratetic errors of epic proportions.

Think there are other “epic proportions” that were more critical.

[wwest5829]

1 hour ago, Cryingdick said:

 

Trump wasn't in office so he couldn't block it. That bill wasn't passing anyway. 

Denying the influence of Trump on the Republican Party? Wow. He did call for it to be blocked. Whether there were enough votes in the House without his active call will remain unknown.

[wwest5829]

3 hours ago, AgMech Cowboy said:

She's not 'black'. That's one of the bigger lies.

Will not vote for a woman of “color”. Does that help comphrhension?

[Heavy Metal]

I really can't get my head around the idea that about 75 million Americans are so incredibly stupid that they are considering voting for a senile, misogynistic convicted rapist and fraudster, with multiple indictments for theft, Treason, inciting a riot, Election interferance and others , to be the President of the USA.

The guy has increasing Dementia

He wants to destroy the much vaunted US Constitution

His only intended Policy appears to be the Deportation of all Immigrants, even though he is married to one

He intends to be a Facist Dictator from Day 1 if elected.

He threatens to arrest all his Political enemies and those who openly dislike him followed by imprisonment and possible excecutions.

Breaking away from current Allies and NATO to align USA with Dictatorships like Russia, Iran, North Korea, China and Hungary amongst others.

Defunding of Social Security and Medicare

Increased Taxation on Middle and Working Class whilst reducing and removing taxes for the Rich and Super Rich like himself and his Donors.

Redirection of Government Departments such as Education to result in the dumbing down of US citizens.

Removal and replacement of key positions in all Government Departments with Trump Loyalists and family members.

Abolition of Presidential Elections

The concept of Democracy will no longer exsist as the Government of the People will be a vehicle to benefit Trump and his Favoured Few alone.

 

America will be in Total Chaos lead by a brain dead narcissist who does'nt know where he is or what he is doing and constantly soils his diapers. Even worse though he could be forced to hand over to the emotionally challenged J D Vance, the man with the charisma of a rusty doorknob

 

 

[wwest5829]

9 hours ago, AndreasHG said:

 

It takes a very poor opponent to lose against Donald Trump.

A terrible opponent.

It's a nearly impossible feat, and one that Democrats appear poised to accomplish twice.

I keep my fingers crossed, but I know it's not going to suffice.

 

Disagree. The forces supporting “The Donald “ is quite independent of who the opponent is …

[Heavy Metal]

1 hour ago, Cryingdick said:

 

Trump wasn't in office so he couldn't block it. That bill wasn't passing anyway. 

It wasn't passing because Trump DEMANDED his Republican minions in the House refuse to back it as Biden would get the Credit and it would harm Trump's Election Campaign. He's just a Low Life who puts the benefits to himself infront of benefits to the Country.

Edited October 24 by Heavy Metal
Duplicate word

[AndreasHG]

1 hour ago, wwest5829 said:

The forces supporting “The Donald “ is quite independent of who the opponent is

 

But the forces who shall support Harris are dependent on the perceived qualities of the Dem candidate...

 

[Cryingdick]

1 hour ago, Heavy Metal said:

It wasn't passing because Trump DEMANDED his Republican minions in the House refuse to back it as Biden would get the Credit and it would harm Trump's Election Campaign. He's just a Low Life who puts the benefits to himself infront of benefits to the Country.

Okay will I bend spoons with the powers of my mind. Trump couldn't force anything he was a private citizen. 

[thaibeachlovers]

16 hours ago, RetiredNavy71 said:

So what makes you an expert regarding voting in America? Stick to what you know and the world will be a better place.  Oh by the way learn how to spell

 

[thaibeachlovers]

5 hours ago, Heavy Metal said:

I really can't get my head around the idea that about 75 million Americans are so incredibly stupid that they are considering voting for a senile, misogynistic convicted rapist and fraudster, with multiple indictments for theft, Treason, inciting a riot, Election interferance and others , to be the President of the USA.

The guy has increasing Dementia

He wants to destroy the much vaunted US Constitution

His only intended Policy appears to be the Deportation of all Immigrants, even though he is married to one

He intends to be a Facist Dictator from Day 1 if elected.

He threatens to arrest all his Political enemies and those who openly dislike him followed by imprisonment and possible excecutions.

Breaking away from current Allies and NATO to align USA with Dictatorships like Russia, Iran, North Korea, China and Hungary amongst others.

Defunding of Social Security and Medicare

Increased Taxation on Middle and Working Class whilst reducing and removing taxes for the Rich and Super Rich like himself and his Donors.

Redirection of Government Departments such as Education to result in the dumbing down of US citizens.

Removal and replacement of key positions in all Government Departments with Trump Loyalists and family members.

Abolition of Presidential Elections

The concept of Democracy will no longer exsist as the Government of the People will be a vehicle to benefit Trump and his Favoured Few alone.

 

America will be in Total Chaos lead by a brain dead narcissist who does'nt know where he is or what he is doing and constantly soils his diapers. Even worse though he could be forced to hand over to the emotionally challenged J D Vance, the man with the charisma of a rusty doorknob

 

 

A simple laugh emoji isn't enough for that rant, so here you go

[Luuk Chaai]

17 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

Most people refer to her as  coloured, not that it matters. By all current accounts she's now way behind Trump in voting intentions.

coloured ?   no American  uses that term ...I think you meant Idiot ! or phony, 

[Jingthing]

7 hours ago, Heavy Metal said:

I really can't get my head around the idea that about 75 million Americans are so incredibly stupid that they are considering voting for a senile, misogynistic convicted rapist and fraudster, with multiple indictments for theft, Treason, inciting a riot, Election interferance and others , to be the President of the USA.

The guy has increasing Dementia

He wants to destroy the much vaunted US Constitution

His only intended Policy appears to be the Deportation of all Immigrants, even though he is married to one

He intends to be a Facist Dictator from Day 1 if elected.

He threatens to arrest all his Political enemies and those who openly dislike him followed by imprisonment and possible excecutions.

Breaking away from current Allies and NATO to align USA with Dictatorships like Russia, Iran, North Korea, China and Hungary amongst others.

Defunding of Social Security and Medicare

Increased Taxation on Middle and Working Class whilst reducing and removing taxes for the Rich and Super Rich like himself and his Donors.

Redirection of Government Departments such as Education to result in the dumbing down of US citizens.

Removal and replacement of key positions in all Government Departments with Trump Loyalists and family members.

Abolition of Presidential Elections

The concept of Democracy will no longer exsist as the Government of the People will be a vehicle to benefit Trump and his Favoured Few alone.

 

America will be in Total Chaos lead by a brain dead narcissist who does'nt know where he is or what he is doing and constantly soils his diapers. Even worse though he could be forced to hand over to the emotionally challenged J D Vance, the man with the charisma of a rusty doorknob

 

 

It's impossible to process in a rational way so don't even try.

If all Trump had was his core cult which is about 30 percent he would have zero chance.

So looking at the margin that might push him into a win in the electoral college (but never in the popular vote) I just look at them as being conned and being very low information voters.

A very common excuse to vote for him is that his first time wasn't that bad or even good so why be afraid of Trump 2.0?

That is a position of intellectual laziness failing to take into the account the greatly changed situation since then and that if he wins he will surround himself with only loyalists, nobody to keep him in check, and a supreme court that has bizarrely and corruptly ruled that acting as president ANYTHING GOES. Then you hear what he wants to do such as send the military after political opponents, etc. and you can begin to see what a second term means.

[newnative]

19 hours ago, AndreasHG said:

 

It takes a very poor opponent to lose against Donald Trump.

A terrible opponent.

It's a nearly impossible feat, and one that Democrats appear poised to accomplish twice.

I keep my fingers crossed, but I know it's not going to suffice.

 

     One thing to remember is the American people rejected Trump twice.  In 2016 he lost by 2.8 million votes.  A landslide in favor of Clinton.  Not a close race by any means by vote count.  Actual American voters didn't want him.  In 2020 he lost by 7 million votes--even more voters didn't want him.  An even bigger landslide in favor of Biden.

     In 2024, actual American voters will likely prefer the Democrat candidate over Trump once again.  But, the Electoral College may award the presidency to Trump, as it did in 2016 over the wishes of the American voters.  Trump is a two-time loser with the American voters and likely will be a three-time loser with the voters after this election.  

[mdr224]

8 minutes ago, newnative said:

     One thing to remember is the American people rejected Trump twice.  In 2016 he lost by 2.8 million votes.  A landslide in favor of Clinton.  Not a close race by any means by vote count.  Actual American voters didn't want him.  In 2020 he lost by 7 million votes--even more voters didn't want him.  An even bigger landslide in favor of Biden.

     In 2024, actual American voters will likely prefer the Democrat candidate over Trump once again.  But, the Electoral College may award the presidency to Trump, as it did in 2016 over the wishes of the American voters.  Trump is a two-time loser with the American voters and likely will be a three-time loser with the voters after this election.  

Coastal elites are out of touch. Thank the system for not giving them the choice of whos president

[AndreasHG]

2 hours ago, newnative said:

Trump is a two-time loser with the American voters

A loser who could sit in the White House for the second time.
A clear sign that the Constitution is aging and failing the American people. Gerrymandering and the presidential election are the two issues that need to be resolved.