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[bbi1]

On 10/26/2024 at 12:03 AM, Lancelot01 said:

For the first time this year I arrived at BKK on 23 July and was given a 60 visa exempt entry until 20 Sept.

On 17th September I went to Hua Hin Immigration at Blu Port and extended the stay until 20th October. 

On 17th October I flew to HCMC until today 25th.

On arrival at BKK the IO told me I need a visa, too many entries.

I was escorted to the 'interrogation' area where, after explanation by a second IO a senior lady IO said (my translation) Bai, let him (me) in. 

I was then escorted to the 'Priority' lane where a 3rd IO said 'I can't stamp you in? You stayed too many days, you must get a visa in your country.

From what I understand, the new ruling is that you can enjoy 60 days, plus 30 day extension and, if you leave Thailand, for whatever period,  the 'clock' resets for a 60 + (if required) 30 day extension. 

 

I would add that I only spend between 4 to 6 months each year in Thailand. 

 

Am I misinterpreting the July ruling?

OP are you over 50? Maybe they want you on a retirement visa since you are here each and every year for up to half a year.

[Chivas]

Just now, Caldera said:

 

How's that even relevant? Visa exempt entries by air were already "unlimited" before, and yet, airport immigration have long had their own guidelines for limitations. As far as I can tell, they haven't changed at all.

 

Meanwhile at land borders, the change to "unlimited" was a big thing, especially for those using border run services.

 

I can see how beating that dead horse can get you kicked out of FB groups.

 

I'll politely respond

It is relevant. Far too many were claiming "nothing had changed" and yet (and I'll use Royal Thai Embassy in London as an example) the Visa Exempt entries were "highlighted" as now TWO per year.....it was and probably still is highlighted in red

 

15th July that was updated and what happened on that specific day.....!  We changed to 60 day VE entry

 

There was no way on earth that "unlimited until told otherwise" was going to allow 60 days plus 30 day extension indefinately

 

Now I acknowledge that in actual fact if I return in January it will only be 2 entries either in that rolling 12 months (or only one within 2025) but these identical style threads are simply not only on this forum ok they're everywhere

 

Lesson learnt and next time I'll get the METV and peace of mind

 

I'll leave it there

[Expat4life66]

On 10/25/2024 at 8:03 PM, Lancelot01 said:

For the first time this year I arrived at BKK on 23 July and was given a 60 visa exempt entry until 20 Sept.

On 17th September I went to Hua Hin Immigration at Blu Port and extended the stay until 20th October. 

On 17th October I flew to HCMC until today 25th.

On arrival at BKK the IO told me I need a visa, too many entries.

I was escorted to the 'interrogation' area where, after explanation by a second IO a senior lady IO said (my translation) Bai, let him (me) in. 

I was then escorted to the 'Priority' lane where a 3rd IO said 'I can't stamp you in? You stayed too many days, you must get a visa in your country.

From what I understand, the new ruling is that you can enjoy 60 days, plus 30 day extension and, if you leave Thailand, for whatever period,  the 'clock' resets for a 60 + (if required) 30 day extension. 

 

I would add that I only spend between 4 to 6 months each year in Thailand. 

 

Am I misinterpreting the July ruling?

OP, as others have said, depends on the IO and your history (you don't mention previous years) that they see on the screen when you arrive.  

 

You mentioned Bluport so I assume you stay in the Hua Hin area.  In HH, another option to improve chances would be overland visa run companies that take people in vans on full day trips down South to the open Myanmar border (Ranong) for exit and entry.  I see some of these companies post in the Hua Hin FB forum.  The cost is most likely cheaper than a return ride to BKK + flight.  

Edited 3 hours ago by Expat4life66

[Dan O]

1 hour ago, Caldera said:

 

How's that even relevant? Visa exempt entries by air were already "unlimited" before, and yet, airport immigration have long had their own guidelines for limitations. As far as I can tell, they haven't changed at all.

 

Meanwhile at land borders, the change to "unlimited" was a big thing, especially for those using border run services.

 

I can see how beating that dead horse can get you kicked out of FB groups.

The use of or thinking Visa Exempt entries as being "unlimited" is slightly inaccurate. They are not unlimited, there is just no limit specified as they used to with land entries. It seems like a petty small difference but in actually that is what it is. That in my opinion is where many fail to understand when Imm Officers question that approach or deny an entry which is pretty seldom if you look at the number of visitors coming into the country. 

[bokningar]

On 10/25/2024 at 3:03 PM, Lancelot01 said:

For the first time this year I arrived at BKK on 23 July and was given a 60 visa exempt entry until 20 Sept.

On 17th September I went to Hua Hin Immigration at Blu Port and extended the stay until 20th October. 

On 17th October I flew to HCMC until today 25th.

On arrival at BKK the IO told me I need a visa, too many entries.

I was escorted to the 'interrogation' area where, after explanation by a second IO a senior lady IO said (my translation) Bai, let him (me) in. 

I was then escorted to the 'Priority' lane where a 3rd IO said 'I can't stamp you in? You stayed too many days, you must get a visa in your country.

From what I understand, the new ruling is that you can enjoy 60 days, plus 30 day extension and, if you leave Thailand, for whatever period,  the 'clock' resets for a 60 + (if required) 30 day extension. 

 

I would add that I only spend between 4 to 6 months each year in Thailand. 

 

Am I misinterpreting the July ruling?

Story not complete, did they let you in?

[Pattaya57]

20 hours ago, Enoon said:

I also got **** last week at BKK, where I have been arriving for 16 years (with never a problem) on a visa of some sort.

 

Always had a return flight to UK booked for 5-6 months after initial arrival in Thailand......same this year.

 

This time I was making my initial arrival VE (first time ever, during 16 years, for initial entry) after being out of Thailand since April 1st.

 

Happily the IO was interrupted by a senior mid-way during the incident and I was carelessly stamped in (brand new, empty passport) and brusquely waved through.

 

So you have been travelling to Thailand extensively for 16 years (and always had flight 5-6 months after arrival). You also have a brand new passport where IO would be viewing an extensive history on computer.

 

I would think it perfectly normal for IO to be asking you questions given your significant history. That's all this seems to be as you weren't dragged off to the office or detention, you were stamped in and waived through.

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Pattaya57