Why do decent Americans support trump

[bubblegum]

6 minutes ago, mogandave said:

I live in a tourist area outside the USA and i don’t agree, so you’re 0 for 10 in the truth department 

Ah because you !!!! do not agree I'm wrong. I don't consider the Kremlin a tourist attraction.

[Hanaguma]

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

Nope.

 

You don't care about the truth.

 

Do you maintain that no states have absolute bans on abortion? Really?

Yes. Please tell me one. Restrictions, yes.   Absolute bans, no. 

[Hanaguma]

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

@Hanaguma is probably one of those Russian supporters who want to see America weakened in favor of Russia. He knows that Trump defers to Putin.

 

That's the only reason I can figure that foreigners get so defensive about Trump.

Yep, you got me there. I am a paid Putin mouthpiece.  Whatever floats your boat and gives you the chance to evade the issue. 

[Lacessit]

54 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I'm guessing the ballot boxes were burnt by those pesky, no good democrats. This is fun.

Let's see - the popular vote has favored the Democrats since 2008, by substantial margins. It therefore makes sense Republicans have more reason to destroy ballots.

 

Were you asleep in logic class?

Edited October 30 by Lacessit

[SleepyJoe]

I saw this came up,  so....  Fascisti, Hitler.... it's a badge of honor to be labeled this by the the Democrat left Media.   This list includes Ronald Reagan who won in a historical landslide, 49 of the 50 states in his re-election (1984).  This is standard affair in Democrat politics.  It usually means they are losing....   So relax a bit about who's a fascist, and try doing your own research.    <Peace>

[xylophone]

1 hour ago, BangkokReady said:

 

It isn't nonsense, though.  What you have written is nonsense.

 

 

Do you have the link?

 

As I said, this is just you believing propaganda.  You asked why "decent Americans" support Trump, this is the answer.  The things you think that are bad about him are not true, and you only believe them because you dislike Trump on a personal level.

There are links aplenty all over the Internet from all sorts of networks, newspapers and other sources of news and information, and if you haven't seen them before, then it truly says so much about you and why we are even having this discussion.

 

I don't believe propaganda and I research any sources which it would appear that you don't do.

 

It is extremely sad in this day and age that you refuse to believe that which is widely reported by all and sundry, and which can be widely viewed. In fact it goes to show that what many others have said about trumpies, in as much as they refuse to believe that which doesn't fit their narrative.

 

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid because you need to stay in that fantasy world that you inhabit at the moment.

 

FYI..............

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX9reO3QnUA

Donald Trump mocks reporter with disability – video

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2015/nov/26/donald-trump-appears-to-mock-disabled-reporter-video

 

https://www.politico.com/video/2017/01/donald-trump-mocks-disabled-reporter-061897

 

Donald Trump's Worst Offense? Mocking Disabled Reporter, Poll Finds

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-s-worst-offense-mocking-disabled-reporter-poll-finds-n627736

 

Republican presidential contender Donald Trump has been criticised for mocking a disabled New York Times reporter.

Mr Trump performed an impression of Serge Kovaleski, who suffers from a congenital joint condition, at a rally.

He has used a 2001 article by Mr Kovaleski to back up widely disputed claims that "thousands" of Muslims in New Jersey celebrated the 9/11 attacks.

 

The New York Times called Mr Trump's actions "outrageous".

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34930042 

[BangkokReady]

6 minutes ago, xylophone said:

I don't believe propaganda and I research any sources which it would appear that you don't do.

 

You clearly do, as you've literally repeated propaganda in your main post.

 

6 minutes ago, xylophone said:

It is extremely sad in this day and age that you refuse to believe that which is widely reported by all and sundry, and which can be widely viewed. In fact it goes to show that what many others have said about trumpies, in as much as they refuse to believe that which doesn't fit their narrative.

 

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid because you need to stay in that fantasy world that you inhabit at the moment.

 

FYI..............

 

This is all from your imagination.  That's why you don't understand how decent Americans support Trump.  You hate Trump so much that you believe lies about him.

 

6 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Donald Trump mocks reporter with disability

 

It seems to be more of an impression mocking what he said, than mocking his actual disability.  Not exactly something that is going to make someone not want to vote for him.

 

Actually, I was asking about the war hero/veteran thing.  Do you have a link for that?

[HonestQuietTom]

On 10/29/2024 at 1:34 PM, bangadang said:

Oh great, another left rant. Why not throw Hitler into it as well?  

Why avoid answering the questions posed?

[mogandave]

41 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Let's see - the popular vote has favored the Democrats since 2008, by substantial margins. It therefore makes sense Republicans have more reason to destroy ballots.

 

Were you asleep in logic class?

What kind of logic decides lighting a ballot drop box on fire goes unnoticed? 

 

Oh, leftists logic, got it.

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, mogandave said:

Still waiting for you to name five states where abortion is outlawed without exceptions. You just made it up.

 

If illegal aliens were not in the country, they would be raping zero American girls.

 

How many raped American girls is acceptable to you? 

 

It’s kind of tiring to have tell the same lies over and over, but here yiu are, lying again.

Your methodology doesn't make sense.

 

Since US citizens are more likely to commit crimes, having another population that commits fewer crimes is a good thing.

 

You are echoing an old Nazi trope about the Jews, who committed very few crimes in Germany, but the Nazis said if there were no Jews, they would commit no crimes.

 

BTW, I already posted the link for the states that completely restrict abortion.

 

Edited October 30 by Danderman123

[Danderman123]

1 minute ago, mogandave said:

What kind of logic decides lighting a ballot drop box on fire goes unnoticed? 

 

Oh, leftists logic, got it.

What are you trolling about? How does your post help anyone?

[HonestQuietTom]

On 10/29/2024 at 1:48 PM, Jingthing said:

Because they're not decent Americans.

 

Next

...

I would beg to differ, many are probably decent Americans.

I believe the answer is more along the lines of self interest and peer/social group pressure

Let's see what the exit polls have to say 

[Danderman123]

25 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

It seems to be more of an impression mocking what he said, than mocking his actual disability.  Not exactly something that is going to make someone not want to vote for him.

 

Either you didn't watch the video, or you are blinded by your love of Trump 

[HonestQuietTom]

On 10/29/2024 at 2:26 PM, Keep Right said:

Because we are decent and love our country as patriots should. We do not support the left wing socialist, globalist polices of the Democrats or support a liberal, word salad diversity hire candidate. I could go on and on about why decent Americans support Trump but I am sure you get the point. MAGA 2024

I sincerely doubt that you could go on and on - you had just barley started before you abruptly quit.

(kind of like Stormy Daniels description of Trumps efforts in the sack - brief and unfulfilling)

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, HonestQuietTom said:

I would beg to differ, many are probably decent Americans.

I believe the answer is more along the lines of self interest and peer/social group pressure

Let's see what the exit polls have to say 

You're normalizing an election that is the OPPOSITE of normal.
Trump is running to be America's first dictator King and if he wins and makes the changes he's on record as wanting to make (and can now legally make them with no guardrails and immunity from the supreme court) real elections are over.
 

[mogandave]

Just now, Danderman123 said:

Your methodology doesn't make sense.

 

Since US citizens are more likely to commit crimes, having another population that commits fewer crimes is a good thing. 

Really? How? It’s more crimes committed 

 

 

Just now, Danderman123 said:

 

You are echoing an old Nazi trope about the Jews, who committed very few crimes in Germany, but the Nazis said if there were no Jews, they would commit no crimes.

You are comparing Holocaust victims to illegal aliens being denied entry at the border. 
 

Jews were citizens, and they were killed. You really will say anything.

 

So again, how many raped girls and murders are acceptable to you? 

[mogandave]

11 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Either you didn't watch the video, or you are blinded by your love of Trump 

Either you are a liar, or…nevermind. 

Edited October 30 by mogandave

[BangkokReady]

7 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Either you didn't watch the video, or you are blinded by your love of Trump 

 

Sounds like you're blinded by your hatred of Trump.

[HonestQuietTom]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

You're normalizing an election that is the OPPOSITE of normal.
Trump is running to be America's first dictator King and if he wins and makes the changes he's on record as wanting to make (and can now legally make them with no guardrails and immunity from the supreme court) real elections are over.
 

I doubt it.

America will easily withstand Trump's attempts at further insurrections.

Trump is just a buffoon being used by the religious right - take away the mob and he is nothing

The real threat to American democracy is the war on secularism

But I do believe that America will also withstand these assaults

Glass is always half full.

[mogandave]

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You're normalizing an election that is the OPPOSITE of normal.
Trump is running to be America's first dictator King and if he wins and makes the changes he's on record as wanting to make (and can now legally make them with no guardrails and immunity from the supreme court) real elections are over.
 

Hey, your buddy Danderman is comparing victims of the Holocaust to illegal aliens being turned around at the border. 

 

Classy bunch you hang with.

[mogandave]

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You're normalizing an election that is the OPPOSITE of normal.
Trump is running to be America's first dictator King and if he wins and makes the changes he's on record as wanting to make (and can now legally make them with no guardrails and immunity from the supreme court) real elections are over.
 

Is dictator king not a bit redundant? 

 

And should it not be maga fascist dictator king? 

 

You have zero credibility 

[Jingthing]

24 minutes ago, HonestQuietTom said:

I doubt it.

America will easily withstand Trump's attempts at further insurrections.

Trump is just a buffoon being used by the religious right - take away the mob and he is nothing

The real threat to American democracy is the war on secularism

But I do believe that America will also withstand these assaults

Glass is always half full.

You don't get it. Trump doesn't do much actual work. His people will do that work. Their plans are completely clear and like I said at this point completely legal and possible.

Why didn't he and his people do that last time?
THEY TRIED.

But last time they had people to keep him in check and the supreme court hadn't passed the immunity rules then.

Of course he came very close to taking power in an election that he lost.

That in itself should be 100 percent disqualifying to all decent Americans.

A shorthand key to the mechanics of their plan is SCHEDULE F.

That is the key to gutting the government all agencies of expert and experienced people to be replaced by ignorant loyalists.

There is also the oligarch system which Trump is copying from Putin.

Musk, Theil, etc.

Doesn't matter if you call this fascism, autocracy, or whatever, it means the death of American democracy as there won't be real elections after they do this stuff.

Also of course Trump is mortal but these measures are designed to be in place for all his successors.

Anne Applebaum a scholar of autocracy who I suggest all decent Americans follow, says if Trump takes power for a second term American democracy is DEFINITELY dead for at least a generation.

I think she's optimistic as how do you get it back once it's lost?

Edited October 30 by Jingthing

[Danderman123]

17 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Sounds like you're blinded by your hatred of Trump.

You have an amazing ability on this board to avoid reality. I hope you don't do that in the Real World.

[Captain Flack]

An image, with no supporting link, to prove its credibility has been removed.

[Danderman123]

20 minutes ago, mogandave said:

Is dictator king not a bit redundant? 

 

And should it not be maga fascist dictator king? 

 

You have zero credibility 

Do you believe the Dems control the weather? How far down the rabbit hole have you gone?

 

 

[mogandave]

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You don't get it. Trump doesn't do much actual work. His people will do that work. Their plans are completely clear and like I said at this point completely legal and possible.

Why didn't he and his people do that last time?
THEY TRIED.

But last time they had people to keep him in check and the supreme court hadn't passed the immunity rules then.

Of course he came very close to taking power in an election that he lost.

That in itself should be 100 percent disqualifying to all decent Americans.

A shorthand key to the mechanics of their plan is SCHEDULE F.

That is the key to gutting the government all agencies of expert and experienced people to be replaced by ignorant loyalists.

There is also the oligarch system which Trump is copying from Putin.

Musk, Theil, etc.

Doesn't matter if you call this fascism, autocracy, or whatever, it means the death of American democracy as there won't be real elections after they do this stuff.

Also of course Trump is mortal but this measures are designed to be in place for all his successors.

You actually believe Jan 6 was an almost successful overthrow of the United States?

 

Dude, you need to step back from the bong and get a grip. 

[BangkokReady]

12 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

You have an amazing ability on this board to avoid reality. I hope you don't do that in the Real World.

 

As I said, he doing an impression rather than actually mocking the guy's disability.  It's the words and attitude that Trump appears to have a problem with.  Note that the face and voice get the most effort, even though they aren't affected by the man's disability. 

 

If you don't like the truth, what can I do about that?

 

You hate Trump, so you need to believe that he's evil and mocked the guy's disability.🤷‍♂️

[mogandave]

Tump can do three hours on Rogan answering questions coherently. Harris can’t do thirty minutes on Bret Baire without faling apart. 

 

 

[Jingthing]

5 minutes ago, mogandave said:

You actually believe Jan 6 was an almost successful overthrow of the United States?

 

Dude, you need to step back from the bong and get a grip. 

You actually believe Jan 6 was only about Jan 6?!?

This was part of plan that the Trump forces had designed if they lost which had been set up for several months.

The riot was only a part of it.

Yes, they came very close to sending the election back to the states and then being unable to reach 270, which would have put the vote up to the congress, one vote per state, which Trump would have won.

If Pence had gone along with that evil plan (VANCE WOULD HAVE!) it would have worked. Amazing that Pence acted decently. Very lucky.

But now they have had four years for their new similar plan. 

[BangkokReady]

8 minutes ago, mogandave said:

You actually believe Jan 6 was an almost successful overthrow of the United States?

 

Are you saying that a small crowd of people strolling into a building and taking selfies wasn't a threat to democracy???  🤔