How much sin sod for 28 yo single mom of 2 Bangkok suburb (Rangsit)

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On 11/27/2024 at 3:51 AM, thainomad3 said:

How much sin sod for 28 yo single mom of 2 Bangkok suburb (Rangsit)?

She has 2 daughters and agreed to give me a kid. She is requesting 100k baht.  

I am a 22 yo college graduate from a top western university.

Hi Thaiinnomad3

Congratulations on meeting a nice (fertile) thai lady. I strongly recommend you read the comments made here.

But, as a Canadian married to a Thai National (who works for thai government) I will share my limited experience:

 

1) SinSod = mothers milk is money & gold that is negotiated with the mother & father of the bride. It represents their investment in the woman and considers: education, upbringing, social status in community, abilities and even if her virginity is intact. The gold portion is security for the wife; incase you run away before ceremony. Thai woman are obliged to help support their parents in thai culture, in marriage her ability to help support them is lessened as she must focus on her new family. I too was told if a thai woman was previously married NOT to pay sinsod.

(Prior to my current wife I dated a woman previously married and with 2 children. Our relationship goto the point of discussion about possible marriage. At no time did she or her family bring up sinsod)

2) Marriage in Thailand can be informal meaning not registered at the local Ampuer office or registered. If registered each can declare assets not brought into the marriage as well as other conditions.

3) Now days sinsod is most often returned 3 days later by the parents as capital for your new family.

4) Now days sinsod is often rented as a symbol used in the ceremony as well as many young men don't have the capital to pay it.

 

Your question, description and language used is cause for concern. And, raises some questions/concerns:

a) In her previous marriage was it registered? If so there will be marriage contract and divorce contract. 

b) Getting married either informal or registered is easy, getting divorced in Thailand is not easy, can take 3 or more years and is expensive. Have you spoke to a Thai family law lawyer?

According to my Thai family lawyer if her previous marriage is unregistered you could become financially responsible for the 2 previous children too.

 

https://www.samuiforsale.com/

The above link is translation of law in Thailand. Goto the family law section, read and reread. 

 

If your marriage is to obtain a visa, you will annually be at her mercy as her signature is required on one document for the marriage visa renewal at the immigration office

 

Best of luck to you.

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8 hours ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

 

I think none of us understand Thai customs, I think most Thais do also not understand Thai customs, the reason being there is such a huge class difference in Thailand and so many different customs for each class.

 

During my wedding feast, the ex-vice-prime minister made a toast at the hotel reception, and a photo of him, my wife, and I was in the Bangkok Post Society section, I think that is not standard, it had nothing at all to do with me, so I am not claiming anything, I am merely stating a point about Thailand and its class system. It is an observation. 

 

People from Issan like to eat fried crickets etc, I asked a brother-in-law who was born and schooled in Bangkok if he ate them and he said no chance, I would not eat such food, I am not from upcountry. 

 

They had chauffeurs, servants, the lot, wealthy, and looked down on the more uneducated Thais, that made no difference to me as my wife and I were already living in the UK and we were only in Thailand for our wedding so what they did in Thailand had no bearing on our lives in England. 

 

A friend was talking to me a couple of years ago and he mentioned how his Thai wife crouched down on her heels down to the floor and ate, he said you know, in the manner Thais eat, I told him I have never seen any Thais eat that way, they use a spoon/knife/fork and table and chairs just like we farangs do.

 

I found out she came from a small village in Isaan, with so many different standards and ways of life in Thailand, one group never mixes with the other.

 

In my experience most farangs I have come across mix only with the poor Thais and for some reason most of the women are from Isaan.

 

Any farang who claims to know about Thailand and its culture is kidding themselves, they also generally mix with the same group or class and so do have many years of experience as they claim but in one level of Thailand, the level they are living at.

 

I have been living in Thailand for two years now although I am visiting the UK for a month at the moment.

 

You mentioned money and my lack of understanding of it, I don't need to know about Thai money whatever that means in this context, I send bank transfers to my Thai bank account when I need to, and my wealth, and property are all safe in the UK in my name and under my control.

 

We never know when temporary year-by-year visitors like us on yearly visa extensions might have to run for the hills (well in our case the airport) so keeping the majority of what we own in a safe country is the only sensible thing to do.

 

Although it must be very tempting to marry a poor Thai woman,  buy her a car and a house, pay for her parents and the sick buffalo as a lot of dim farangs do, and then think it is the norm, a while later they find it has all been taken,  they do make me laugh though, they are so gullible.  🤪

 

I don't think I would like to live in a typical Thai village as many farangs seem to do (or maybe that is what they can afford), it would be so boring, I prefer Phuket which is international and has international standards (but I do avoid the tourist areas), I can't see what people like about living in the back of beyond in a poor Thai village, why not go one step further and live in a cave. 

 

 

But, you are looking at things from your farangy hi-so perspective.........😉

 

As for your Phuket, you 'avin a larf...............

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On 11/27/2024 at 3:51 AM, thainomad3 said:

How much sin sod for 28 yo single mom of 2 Bangkok suburb (Rangsit)?

She has 2 daughters and agreed to give me a kid. She is requesting 100k baht.  

I am a 22 yo college graduate from a top western university.

Nope. Sin Sot only for unmarried, first time Husband to pay, even then it depends. Explain to her that there is a cultural difference ... in your western culture it is the Bride who traditionally brings a "Dowry" to the marriage. Granted, in modern times this has taken the form of the Bride's family paying the wedding costs ... Recommend the book, "Thailand Fever" as background reading for Tai - western relationships. It is in both English and Thai languages in the same book. Two existing children and you want a 3rd? Stepping into it ...