4 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

I wonder what the Israeli definition of terrorist is. Probably any Palestinian who doesn't like them. 

 

 

  Israel knows who the Hamas members are , Israel knows their names and faces and Israel shoots on sight .

   Any Hamas member is a terrorist and they get shot on sight , no questions asked 

On 12/2/2024 at 2:31 AM, Evil Penevil said:

The  Hebrew version also says the young man didn't file a police report because he thought filing a report could interfere with the rest of his trip.  He and some other Israelis went looking for the Germans, but couldn't find them.

He should've filed a police report rather than look for them with his friends. Police have a higher chance of catching them and probably would've. Either paranoid that the police would side with the attackers, or there is more to the story and he provoked them first. They say "German" but more likely it's Muslim immigrants. Even if provoked verbally the attack was still racially motivated, but Israelis could do a better job of not sticking out and not provoking groups of Muslims overseas.

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I wonder what the Israeli definition of terrorist is. Probably any Palestinian who doesn't like them. 

It's quite simple: anyone shooting at them, trying to stab them, or otherwise attacking them is a "terrorist". By definition Hamas is a terrorist organization, so any known member is a terrorist.

On 12/2/2024 at 2:59 AM, save the frogs said:

how did he guess he was from israel?

maybe it's best not to put your country's flag on your backpack.

also, it's no one's business where you're from.

you should never respond to that question. 

way too loaded.

 

If this was Pai there are suddenly a lot of Israelis there, they are not hard to spot based on their features, dress, and demeanor. As to where I'm from, (US) I tell people I'm from the moon, or I say we're divorced and I don't talk about my ex. 

A hate speech has been removed:

@JBoyNPalestine

 

1 hour ago, Jonathan Swift said:

If this was Pai there are suddenly a lot of Israelis there, they are not hard to spot based on their features, dress, and demeanor. As to where I'm from, (US) I tell people I'm from the moon, or I say we're divorced and I don't talk about my ex. 

Yes usually quite easy.

4 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Exactly Hamas don't care who they kill do they. 

 

By the way:

 

All available evidence shows that Israel has followed the laws of war, legal obligations, best practices in civilian harm mitigation and still found a way to reduce civilian casualties.

 

But like the OP, attack Israeli's and blame them instead.

  The UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry said in a report on October 10th that Israel's policy to destroy Gaza's healthcare system with its relentless and deliberate attacks on medical personnel and facilities was a war crime and crime against humanity.

10 minutes ago, bannork said:

  The UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry said in a report on October 10th that Israel's policy to destroy Gaza's healthcare system with its relentless and deliberate attacks on medical personnel and facilities was a war crime and crime against humanity.

What has that got to do with my post on Hamas not caring who dies and all evidence of Israel showing great care with civilian casualties in the war?

2 hours ago, PingRoundTheWorld said:

It's quite simple: anyone shooting at them, trying to stab them, or otherwise attacking them is a "terrorist". By definition Hamas is a terrorist organization, so any known member is a terrorist.

But when is someone a known member?

Let's say one of the bad terrorists goes every day to the market and buys food. He talks every day with 10 vendors. Does that make those people he talked to guilty? How can Israel know so much about everybody? Is there maybe some generalization going on?

6 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

But when is someone a known member?

Let's say one of the bad terrorists goes every day to the market and buys food. He talks every day with 10 vendors. Does that make those people he talked to guilty? How can Israel know so much about everybody? Is there maybe some generalization going on?

Oh the hypothetical distraction. Israel has killed around 20,000 Hamas terrorists in Gaza. Its a war and you are asking how they identified each and every one. Pathetic

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

Oh the hypothetical distraction. Israel has killed around 20,000 Hamas terrorists in Gaza. Its a war and you are asking how they identified each and every one. Pathetic

So according to you at least about half the people they killer were terrorist, correct?

About 50% of the more than 40,000 killed are women and children. Are many of them terrorists? Or are all males killed terrorists?

Is it possible to be a male Palestinian and not be a terrorist in the eyes of Israel? 

Just now, OneMoreFarang said:

So according to you at least about half the people they killer were terrorist, correct?

About 50% of the more than 40,000 killed are women and children. Are many of them terrorists? Or are all males killed terrorists?

Is it possible to be a male Palestinian and not be a terrorist in the eyes of Israel? 

No, not according to me, according to those that killed them, the IDF. I was not there killing anybody....

 

Yes you've finally worked out the dodgy figures on women and children given by Hamas

On 12/2/2024 at 8:39 AM, actonion said:

why would they

Because they are the Pope, cardinals and other Christian male clergy. Not only Jewish men.

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

No, not according to me, according to those that killed them, the IDF. I was not there killing anybody....

 

Yes you've finally worked out the dodgy figures on women and children given by Hamas

And you believe the IDF? lol

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

What has that got to do with my post on Hamas not caring who dies and all evidence of Israel showing great care with civilian casualties in the war?

It shows that Israel doesn't care about civilian casualties, in fact encourages them with its destruction of medical facilities.

2 minutes ago, bannork said:

And you believe the IDF? lol

Yes much more so than Hamas. Why so funny?

1 minute ago, bannork said:

It shows that Israel doesn't care about civilian casualties, in fact encourages them with its destruction of medical facilities.

That's not true though:

 

Israel has taken more measures to avoid needless civilian harm than virtually any other nation that's fought an urban war.

https://www.newsweek.com/israel-implemented-more-measures-prevent-civilian-casualties-any-other-nation-history-opinion-1865613

 

Medical facilities are no longer protected when they are also used by terrorists, time you worked that one out.

 

In Gaza, in almost every hospital the IDF has arrived at, it has uncovered and published military use by Hamas.

https://www.newsweek.com/hospitals-are-protected-under-international-law-they-cannot-off-limits-opinion-1871757

12 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yes much more so than Hamas. Why so funny?

Here's one example of the countless lies peddled by the IDF

The case of al-Shifa hospital – hasbara exposed | Jewish Voice for Labour

6 minutes ago, bannork said:

Here's one example of the countless lies peddled by the IDF

The case of al-Shifa hospital – hasbara exposed | Jewish Voice for Labour

I could also come back with dozens of links to the contrary. But you carry on believing Hamas more than the IDF, I have no intention of trying to stop you doing that. It says all I need to know about you. 

 

24 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yes much more so than Hamas. Why so funny?

 

17 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

I could also come back with dozens of links to the contrary. But you carry on believing Hamas more than the IDF, I have no intention of trying to stop you doing that. It says all I need to know about you. 

 

 

I don't believe Hamas, and I don't believe the IDF. If you're convinced the IDF never lie then I have a bridge to sell you in Crimea.

6 minutes ago, bannork said:

I don't believe Hamas, and I don't believe the IDF. If you're convinced the IDF never lie then I have a bridge to sell you in Crimea.

Who claimed they never lie? More unsubstantiated nonsense from you.

 

45 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yes much more so than Hamas. Why so funny?

I am sure there have been a few miss truths but far far less than Hamas terrorists. Israel/IDF are a credible source, Hamas no.

 

If you believe the death figures, they come from Hamas. If you believe that Hamas does not operate from Hospitals then you believe Hamas. 

 

 

8 minutes ago, bannork said:

I don't believe Hamas, and I don't believe the IDF. If you're convinced the IDF never lie then I have a bridge to sell you in Crimea.

 

  OK, Could you state what lie the IDF have told ?

5 hours ago, PingRoundTheWorld said:

It's quite simple: anyone shooting at them, trying to stab them, or otherwise attacking them is a "terrorist". By definition Hamas is a terrorist organization, so any known member is a terrorist.

So by your own definition, wouldn't that makes Israel's ongoing actions against Palestine an activity of terror? Or does that definition only work at Israel's discretion.

 

100% support the removal of Hamas but not when the human cost far exceeds the cost of the trigger. 

39 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  OK, Could you state what lie the IDF have told ?

Israel lies about UNRA and various massacres 

"Which is worse, Israel’s lies about Gaza or its western backers who repeat those lies? | US foreign policy | The Guardian" https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/may/02/israel-gaza-lies-western-backers

Link from an unapproved non credible source removed. The link removed was from a pure misinformation site that spread fake news about Israel. @bannork

15 minutes ago, bannork said:

Israel lies about UNRA and various massacres 

"Which is worse, Israel’s lies about Gaza or its western backers who repeat those lies? | US foreign policy | The Guardian" https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/may/02/israel-gaza-lies-western-backers

By Mehdi Hasan who also called non-Muslims “animals.” 

 

You really are down the rabbit hole.

 

StopAntisemitism wrote that “Qatari mouthpiece and anti-Israel propaganda machine Mehdi Hasan leaves MSNBC after the network dumps his show.”

Hasan previously worked as an anchor for Al Jazeera and as a podcaster at the left-wing website The Intercept.

10 minutes ago, bannork said:

Israel lies about UNRA and various massacres 

"Which is worse, Israel’s lies about Gaza or its western backers who repeat those lies? | US foreign policy | The Guardian" https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/may/02/israel-gaza-lies-western-backers

 

Another useful Guardian reader ally for the Hamas propaganda machine. UNRWA employs nearly 30,000 people, almost all of them Palestinians living in Gaza. I wonder if you know who controls every aspect of UNRWA, especially the financial donations that they receive. Here’s a clue for you, they are under the complete control of a prescribed Terrorist organisation …. need any further clues or can you work it out for yourself ?

 

NB: it is UNRWA not UNRA ......  you couldn’t even get that bit right.

 

 

10 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

Another useful Guardian reader ally for the Hamas propaganda machine. UNRWA employs nearly 30,000 people, almost all of them Palestinians living in Gaza. I wonder if you know who controls every aspect of UNRWA, especially the financial donations that they receive. Here’s a clue for you, they are under the complete control of a prescribed Terrorist organisation …. need any further clues or can you work it out for yourself ?

 

NB: it is UNRWA not UNRA ......  you couldn’t even get that bit right.

 

 

Professor Sands talking about Israel war crimes, and a prominent Israeli expressing  disquiet about Israel's conduct of the 'war'.

"IDF soldiers should refuse orders which may be war crimes, Israeli ex-security adviser tells BBC - BBC News" https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx24ngy9g70o.amp

3 minutes ago, bannork said:

Professor Sands talking about Israel war crimes, and a prominent Israeli expressing  disquiet about Israel's conduct of the 'war'.

"IDF soldiers should refuse orders which may be war crimes, Israeli ex-security adviser tells BBC - BBC News" https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx24ngy9g70o.amp

An opinion piece with no evidence.

 

Anything to add on the German attacking the Jew in Israel, it seems everyone likes to attack Jews for no reason............

32 minutes ago, bannork said:

Israel lies about UNRA and various massacres 

"Which is worse, Israel’s lies about Gaza or its western backers who repeat those lies? | US foreign policy | The Guardian" https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/may/02/israel-gaza-lies-western-backers

 

33 minutes ago, bannork said:

Israel lies about UNRA and various massacres 

"Which is worse, Israel’s lies about Gaza or its western backers who repeat those lies? | US foreign policy | The Guardian" https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/may/02/israel-gaza-lies-western-backers

 

   Could you yourself state what those lies are ?

If I want to reply to Mehdi Hasans article, I will go over to the Guardian and leave a comment in the comments section, or I will send Mehdi an E-mail .

   So , what are the lies that the I.D.F told ?