No one is above the Law.

 

Gun crime is rampant in this country, we must ban guns.

 

Im not going to Pardon my son. Nope nope nope

 

https://nypost.com/2024/12/01/us-news/joe-biden-to-pardon-son-hunter-in-shocking-reversal/

 

Sunday night, too.

 

Watch them scream when Trump pardons the innocent Jan 6 victims of persecution.

 

The pardon is a blanket one. All the money received to sell out the US will not be the subject of any prosecution.

Need Tissue? 

2 minutes ago, Dcheech said:

Need Tissue? 

No, its best thing that could happen to the MAGA movement

So much to do for Bondi & Patel if confirmed! They serve the President!Below is the left’s interpretation of holding guilty parties accountable , the left calls it retribution!

 

Trump also vows to hold accountable “those who have misused the power of Government to unjustly prosecute their Political Opponents. We will declassify Government records, root out wrongdoers, and fire corrupt employees.”

 

https://www.democracydocket.com/analysis/trumps-agenda-47-and-what-it-means-for-democracy/

 

 

9 hours ago, Dcheech said:

Need Tissue? 

 

Clearly you used all the tissue last month. 

No problem.

 

Biden just gave Trump the A-OK to pardon the innocent victims of January 6th.

 

 

4 minutes ago, G_Money said:

No problem.

 

Biden just gave Trump the A-OK to pardon the innocent victims of January 6th.

 

 

And his whole family and business partners... Congratulations, Joe. Or maybe at his age he no longer cares.

4 minutes ago, G_Money said:

No problem.

 

Biden just gave Trump the A-OK to pardon the innocent victims of January 6th.

 

 

Why, how...................?

Innocents are not sent to prison...........🤔

1 hour ago, transam said:

Why, how...................?

Innocents are not sent to prison...........🤔

 

This is provably false, so... more trolling???

1 minute ago, BangkokReady said:

 

This is provably false, so... more trolling???

Aaah, the guy that can only quote "troll" is back with nothing.........

10 minutes ago, transam said:

Aaah, the guy that can only quote "troll" is back with nothing.........

 

Oh boy.  I pointed out that the claim you made was provably false. 🤦‍♂️

 

How is that nothing?  🙄

I have removed the use of a nickname from the title, as it is against forum rules. With the edit the topic remains.

Hunter Biden was found guilty, convicted. He has been pardoned. The pardon does not remove the conviction, or change the fact that he was found guilty. You can quite happily clutch your pearls and swoon because someone on the fringes of public life, and someone, whose family ties it is not entirely unreasonable to consider played a significant part in his sentencing, has been pardoned.

 

Similarly, the January 6th crowd were either found guilty in a trial or pleaded guilty. Exactly the same will apply, they remain convicted, they remain guilty, they will have been pardoned.

 

It can be argued, and I would argue, that the pardon of 1 person cannot really be compared in political significance and the integrity of the rule of law, to the mass blanket pardon of people convicted and sentenced for a wide variety of crimes on that January 6th. Better reserve that comparison for the inevitable individual pardons which will be issued to Mr Trump's cronies...

 

I would also suggest, in the cause of common humanity; Mr Biden knows that he is, frankly, quite likely to die soon. He understandably does not want to die whilst his son is in jail.

 

I don't really expect that last argument to gain much traction on this forum!

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• Proofread your post first as poor grammar and spelling can make a post difficult to understand. Posts regarding spelling and grammar can derail a topic and can also appear intolerant and unhelpful.

Hahaha,who would have thought.

What a <deleted>show and Dems stuck with this alzheimer ridden,lying,corrupt snake for years.

12 hours ago, transam said:

Why, how...................?

Innocents are not sent to prison...........🤔

What a totally imbecilic (or trolling or both) comment. Here is a list of innocent people executed in the US alone.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wrongful_convictions_in_the_United_States

 

Mel Brooks said it best (if not first)...  It's good to be the king.

12 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Oh boy.  I pointed out that the claim you made was provably false. 🤦‍♂️

 

How is that nothing?  🙄

Trump himself pardoned a lot of thieves and crooks. 

 

Dr. Faustino Bernadett: Bernadett, a retired anesthesiologist, was sentenced last year to 15 months in federal prison for taking part in a long-running health care fraud scheme where he authorized sham contracts that concealed over $30 million in illegal kickback charge after he carried a handgun from California to Florida on his private jet. Due to past felony convictions, he is barred under federal law from possessing firearms. The charge carries a maximum prison sentence of 10 years. Carter has frequently expressed support for Trump and recently met with the president on criminal justice issues.

 

Kwame Kilpatrick: The former mayor of Detroit had his 28-year sentence commuted. He pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice and resigned from office as part of a plea deal in 2008 following a pay-to-play scheme in which Kilpatrick and his father took kickbacks and bribes to steer city business to certain contractors. He initially served 99 days in prison but then served an additional year for violating his probation and was released in 2011.

 

Rick Renzi: Former U.S. Rep. Rick Renzi, R-Ariz., was granted a full pardon. In 2013, he was sentenced to three years in prison for extortion, bribery, insurance fraud, money laundering and racketeering in a public corruption case. He had served three terms in the House. 

 

The list goes on and on. 

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/full-list-trump-s-last-minute-pardons-commuted-sentences-n1254806

 

 

Any MAGA morons who made no comment when Trump was busy giving pardons to criminals, fellow grifters and extended family members are best advised to <deleted> unless you want to be ridiculed with the hypocrite label.

 He denie he would parden Hunter when asked pre election. Nepotism on display from a discredited  president. 

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Trump himself pardoned a lot of thieves and crooks. 

 

Dr. Faustino Bernadett: Bernadett, a retired anesthesiologist, was sentenced last year to 15 months in federal prison for taking part in a long-running health care fraud scheme where he authorized sham contracts that concealed over $30 million in illegal kickback charge after he carried a handgun from California to Florida on his private jet. Due to past felony convictions, he is barred under federal law from possessing firearms. The charge carries a maximum prison sentence of 10 years. Carter has frequently expressed support for Trump and recently met with the president on criminal justice issues.

 

Kwame Kilpatrick: The former mayor of Detroit had his 28-year sentence commuted. He pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice and resigned from office as part of a plea deal in 2008 following a pay-to-play scheme in which Kilpatrick and his father took kickbacks and bribes to steer city business to certain contractors. He initially served 99 days in prison but then served an additional year for violating his probation and was released in 2011.

 

Rick Renzi: Former U.S. Rep. Rick Renzi, R-Ariz., was granted a full pardon. In 2013, he was sentenced to three years in prison for extortion, bribery, insurance fraud, money laundering and racketeering in a public corruption case. He had served three terms in the House. 

 

The list goes on and on. 

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/full-list-trump-s-last-minute-pardons-commuted-sentences-n1254806

 

 

But, but, but, Hunter Biden had a laptop!

you people forgot the hunter biden laptop, was so called a russian hoax...

 

but it was not

 

joe would not have won the election in 2020 if the truth was known or accepted

 

same as the wuhan virus came from an animal

 

and the V was safe and effective

 

still believe media??? or any politician?

3 hours ago, dinsdale said:

What a totally imbecilic (or trolling or both) comment. Here is a list of innocent people executed in the US alone.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wrongful_convictions_in_the_United_States

 

The WHITE HOUSE invasion, sent to prison for it............🙄

Obvious Biden was going to do it AFTER the election.

30 minutes ago, jippytum said:

 He denie he would parden Hunter when asked pre election. Nepotism on display from a discredited  president. 

But, what about Trump's lies before election that got him elected...................😝

A lot to unpack on this.

 

First, the gun convictions are a crock of <deleted>.  Here is what got him:

Yes No
f. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?
Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized
for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside.

 

Basically it is demanding you criminalize yourself.  The only question should be do you have any felony convictions?  And pretty much no one has ever been convicted of this before so yeah this was a political action. 

 

Second - please you can pretend the tax evasion was as Joe Biden said "late payment" or the like but several years and over $1.4 mil in evasion is serious and felony.  He deserved that conviction and was probably headed for several years behind bars.  What is worse is the entire package of offshore bank accounts and WHY were foreign entities giving him money?  No evidence of any services or products.  It reeks of influence peddling and money laundering so he earned the conviction.  The source of the money should be explained but won't.

 

Last the issue of Jan 6 is being discussed here.  No idea why they connect but regardless of how you view that event the law has a lot of explaining why many of them were kept in jail for extended time without trial or bail.  This reeks of political persecution which is baffling.  Which is it?  Does the DOJ persecute DEMs like Hunter or GOPs like Jan 6? 

 

Both parties pardon people that probably should not get one.  Hunter goes free.  My bet is Trump does a blanket pardon of Jan 6 and himself.  It is what it is.  I lose no sleep either way. 

 

 

 

 

5 minutes ago, transam said:

But, what about Trump's lies before election that got him elected...................😝

Trump is keeping his election promises as per his pre election mandate. Telling the truth about immigration, foreign policy, tariffs to deter Foreign imports. not many lies there. 

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