Trump the convicted felon gets off so why not Bidens son?

[advancebooking]

Its a simple statement/ question. Trump should not make any comments about this in the media. Keep quiet you uneducated man. 

[SunnyinBangrak]

Not a single person knows what Trump was convicted of in that Merchan case. It was an expired misdemeaner. Contrast that to bagman Hunter collecting tens of millions from enemy states where VP joe had power and influence. Money flowed in from China, Russia and the Ukraine and savvy observers recognize this trashed US alphabet agencies in their desperation to cover it up and bidens weakness and compromised state led to WW3. Cheers bidens and the left, nice one.

Any rational leftist probably should sit this one out. 

 

[blaze master]

Easy. One was guilty the other wasn't. 

[madone]

zero fox given

[BigStar]

28 minutes ago, advancebooking said:

Its a simple statement/ question

 

It's a simple example of the Complex Question fallacy. I.e., nonsensical. Trump isn't a convicted felon or even convicted of anything, as a judgement of guilt hasn't been entered. The judge can, and may, dismiss the entire case. You don't dismiss a conviction; you overturn it. And if Trump were convicted, he'd immediately appeal. He can't. NY evidently will call a mere verdict a "conviction," but it's rather nonsensical. Note that our leftists don't accept NY law when it comes to the supposed assault and insist that it's "rape."

 

Hunter is now immune from prosecution for any and all crimes from the last 10 years! What corruption.

[BigStar]

48 minutes ago, advancebooking said:

Trump should not make any comments about this in the media. Keep quiet you uneducated man. 

 

Why not? He already has. Trump graduated from Wharton, top school. Obviously, you're just projecting.

[Liverpool Lou]

"Trump the convicted felon gets off so why not Bidens son?"

 

Because Trump (and Biden) are protected by Presidential immunity, the deplorable waste-of-space current President's son isn't.

[novacova]

3 hours ago, advancebooking said:

Its a simple statement/ question. Trump should not make any comments about this in the media. Keep quiet you uneducated man. 

Another diaper rash flaring up. The guy is a public figure and elected to be the commander and chief of the United States and will annoyingly be bothering you for the next four years making public statements about the twisted media and the waded up left, so get used to it already.

[Cryingdick]

3 hours ago, advancebooking said:

Its a simple statement/ question. Trump should not make any comments about this in the media. Keep quiet you uneducated man. 

 

Right because Biden never said a thing when Trump was on trial. he knew that the sitting president commenting about ongoing incvestigations and lega; proceedings, especially those of his political opponent would be wildly inappropriate. 

[khunJam]

4 hours ago, advancebooking said:

It’s a simple statement/ question. Trump should not make any comments about this in the media. Keep quiet you uneducated man. 

Senseless. It appears you have been severely traumatized by the recent political events in the United States. Your president Trump has a lot more to load in your ears.

[Hanuman2547]

The very first day that Trump is in office he will be issuing pardons to all the January 6th participants that were convicted of crimes. 

Almost all US President's issue pardons, especially at the end of their terms.  Nothing new here other than it was a President's son that was pardoned.

[blaze master]

45 minutes ago, Hanuman2547 said:

The very first day that Trump is in office he will be issuing pardons to all the January 6th participants that were convicted of crimes. 

Almost all US President's issue pardons, especially at the end of their terms.  Nothing new here other than it was a President's son that was pardoned.

 

Do people usually get pardoned for a decade worth of stuff though?

[Hanuman2547]

26 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

Do people usually get pardoned for a decade worth of stuff though?

Not sure, but if a President issues a pardon, then that is covering whatever the pardon is for.  

[Cryingdick]

What Trump has been convicted for is still awaiting sentencing. He has had no convictions thrown out that I know of. Biden actually was convicted of and/or pled guilty to charges. 

[blaze master]

22 minutes ago, Hanuman2547 said:

Not sure, but if a President issues a pardon, then that is covering whatever the pardon is for.  

 

Must be nice getting pardoned for anything else you may have done in those 10 years. 

 

Me thinks he is helping himself as well. 

[NoDisplayName]

10 minutes ago, Hanuman2547 said:

Not sure, but if a President issues a pardon, then that is covering whatever the pardon is for.  

 

Conveniently covers everything, charged or not, that may have been committed from Jan 01 2014,,,,,,,,,,,,,five months before taking a seat on the Burisma board, until a few days ago.

 

 

[blaze master]

11 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

Conveniently covers everything, charged or not, that may have been committed from Jan 01 2014,,,,,,,,,,,,,five months before taking a seat on the Burisma board, until a few days ago.

 

 

 

Big ups to the big guy. 

[impulse]

Trump is "getting off" because the charges were bogus and the prosecutions were only meant to keep him from being elected. 

 

They'll never stand up to the appeals process.  And now that he has been elected, the purpose of the prosecutions has gone by the wayside.

 

Hunter did it.  And more.

 

[Hummin]

Well, it really doesn't help the trust of the system, even we know Trump pardoned his friends, staff and advisers, and surely will pardon those who took part of the Capitol riots. 

 

Talking about abusing the system

[impulse]

12 hours ago, advancebooking said:

Its a simple statement/ question. Trump should not make any comments about this in the media. Keep quiet you uneducated man. 

 

Trump has every right to call out the blatant lying of his political foe.  And, by extension, to call out the lies they told about actually securing the border.  And handing out reparation money, for votes.  And forgiving millions of student loans, for votes.  And...  And...

 

And everything else they lied about to get votes.  Promises they had no intention of keeping. On a scale of 1-10, Biden pardoning his kid barely rates a 3.  But the fact that he repeatedly lied about it (and his connections to his kid's antics) should put him dead worst among the list of American presidents. 

 

Not to mention, unpopular with his own party that he just knifed in the back.  It'll be years before voters believe a Democrat candidate.

 

 

[Cryingdick]

23 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Trump has every right to call out the blatant lying of his political foe.  And, by extension, to call out the lies they told about actually securing the border.  And handing out reparation money, for votes.  And forgiving millions of student loans, for votes.  And...  And...

 

And everything else they lied about to get votes.  Promises they had no intention of keeping. On a scale of 1-10, Biden pardoning his kid barely rates a 3.  But the fact that he repeatedly lied about it (and his connections to his kid's antics) should put him dead worst among the list of American presidents. 

 

Not to mention, unpopular with his own party that he just knifed in the back.  It'll be years before voters believe a Democrat candidate.

 

 

 

Somewhere in a primitive base camp at the foot of Mount Rushmore a promising young sculptor puts away his chisel. Later his body is discovered and the cause of death is unknown but presumed to be sadness. The last search history on his browser is " If you can sculpt a president on a mountain you ought to be able to learn how to code. Find nearby coding dojos"

[gamb00ler]

12 hours ago, BigStar said:

t's a simple example of the Complex Question fallacy. I.e., nonsensical. Trump isn't a convicted felon or even convicted of anything, as a judgement of guilt hasn't been entered.

You've succumbed to the misinformation typical of those on the right.

In NY state, the jury determines guilt vs innocence.  If guilty verdict or guilty plea a criminal defendant is convicted.  The judge then sets the sentence.  The final step is the judge ends the case.  Appeals cannot be filed prior to the judge's closing of the case.

 

Trump has been found guilty and according to NY state courts is now a convicted felon.  See here for the definitions of legal terms published by the NY state courts:  

https://www.nycourts.gov/courthelp/goingtocourt/glossary.shtml

 

Here's the pertinent text for those unwilling to read information that doesn't fit their personal viewpoint:

conviction:   In a criminal case.  A finding of guilt either by plea or by trial.

 

Don't you ever wonder why the extremely litigious Trump hasn't sued the media/opponents for incorrectly calling him convicted?  Simply stated... he doesn't have any facts on his side and would once more suffer complete legal embarrassment.

[Hanaguma]

20 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

You've succumbed to the misinformation typical of those on the right.

In NY state, the jury determines guilt vs innocence.  If guilty verdict or guilty plea a criminal defendant is convicted.  The judge then sets the sentence.  The final step is the judge ends the case.  Appeals cannot be filed prior to the judge's closing of the case.

 

Trump has been found guilty and according to NY state courts is now a convicted felon.  See here for the definitions of legal terms published by the NY state courts:  

https://www.nycourts.gov/courthelp/goingtocourt/glossary.shtml

 

Here's the pertinent text for those unwilling to read information that doesn't fit their personal viewpoint:

conviction:   In a criminal case.  A finding of guilt either by plea or by trial.

 

Don't you ever wonder why the extremely litigious Trump hasn't sued the media/opponents for incorrectly calling him convicted?  Simply stated... he doesn't have any facts on his side and would once more suffer complete legal embarrassment.

You are being pedantic, for the purpose of obscuring the larger issue. Let's stipulate that Trump is convicted. Fine. Now, focus on the differences with Hunter Biden.

 

The pardon is for a decade of crime, both tried and not yet tried, both convicted and not yet convicted. This is rather rare- pardons are generally done for a specific crime or incident. It is not merely "getting off", it is a complete rewriting of history.

 

The two situations are really not comparable.

[EveryG]

13 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Not a single person knows what Trump was convicted of in that Merchan case.

That's stupid. Anyone who wants to look it up can know. Here: 

Quote

Trump guilty on all counts in New York criminal trial

Former President Trump was found guilty on all counts in his historic and unprecedented criminal trial, making him the first former president of the United States to be convicted of a crime. Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg charged former President Donald Trump with 34 counts of falsifying business records in the first degree. Jurors found the former president guilty on all counts.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ny-v-trump-jury-verdict-former-presidents-historic-criminal-trial

 

13 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Contrast that to bagman Hunter collecting tens of millions from enemy states where VP joe had power and influence. Money flowed in from China, Russia and the Ukraine and savvy observers recognize this trashed US alphabet agencies in their desperation to cover it up and bidens weakness and compromised state led to WW3.

That's not at all what Hunter Biden was convicted of. Your are confusing MAGA cult nonsense with reality. Let me help you out, again:

Hunter Biden pleads guilty to all 9 charges in tax evasion case before trial

Joe Biden's son guilty on all charges in historic gun case

 

I'm always impressed by a MAGAs ability to be 95-100% wrong with everything they say. 

[gamb00ler]

27 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

You are being pedantic, for the purpose of obscuring the larger issue. Let's stipulate that Trump is convicted. Fine. Now, focus on the differences with Hunter Biden.

I provide truth and clarity to debunk one of the fabrications used by Trump supporters to attempt to wash away his stench.

 

28 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

The two situations are really not comparable.

I offered no comparison.

 

Did you acquire the Trump obsession while living in US or did his insanity seep over the border and distort people's world view in Canada as well?

[thaibeachlovers]

14 hours ago, advancebooking said:

Its a simple statement/ question. Trump should not make any comments about this in the media. Keep quiet you uneducated man. 

The man that will shortly be POTUS. Be strange if he never said anything for 4 years.

Will you cry every day he is POTUS?

[thaibeachlovers]

45 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

I provide truth and clarity to debunk one of the fabrications used by Trump supporters to attempt to wash away his stench.

You should take up comedy. Sure to be successful as a comedian given that post.

[Lacessit]

When the Supreme Court made their ruling on presidential immunity, it opened Pandora's Box.

 

The law is now inextricably entwined with politics. No-one can unring the bell.

 

Not what the Founding Fathers intended. But then, in their era it was probably impossible to imagine a felon becoming President.

[spidermike007]

For Mr. Law and Order, the laws do not relate to him. Remember, he is royalty, and is above the law. However, royal robes do not hide the creature underneath them. 

 

Manafort was pardoned, so was Kushner Sr. the fraudster. During his first term in office, Trump granted 144 pardons. Those included a distant family member and some of his closest allies who committed crimes ranging from financial fraud to witness tampering and more.

[NoDisplayName]

So if I'm a Ukranian mom, I'll be asking myself............did my husband and my brother and my autistic teenage son die, all to enrich some already rich American president and cover up the crimes committed by him and his son?

 

"Slava Bidenii!"