Frustrated with Thai Immigration - 90 day online report frustrations

[MartinL]

On 12/25/2024 at 9:58 AM, Will B Good said:

 

In the same boat, but did read somewhere...... "online reports between 15 and 7 days before due date".....so going to give that a go next time.

 

I've read that too, somewhere. Probably here on AN. Even so, I stuck with the older '15 days before' window even there was a chance of rejection.

 

I've just checked back on my last 5 online reports (Dec. 24 > Dec. 23) - I applied 2, 4, 1, 2 and 2 days before due date and have never been rejected by Khon Kaen office. It seems the "15 and 7 days before" isn't correct for KK at least.

[Will B Good]

Just now, MartinL said:

 

I've read that too, somewhere. Probably here on AN. Even so, I stuck with the older '15 days before' window even there was a chance of rejection.

 

I've just checked back on my last 5 online reports (Dec. 24 > Dec. 23) - I applied 2, 4, 1, 2 and 2 days before due date and have never been rejected by Khon Kaen office. It seems the "15 and 7 days before" isn't correct for KK at least.

 

Set my reminder .....D-Day minus15.....will do a new TM30......and give it another go come March....fingers crossed.

[bigt3116]

7 minutes ago, Nemises said:

and have better things to do then F-ing around with Thai IOs and their reporting BS. Not to mention getting near-zero % return on your 800k sitting uselessly in some Thai bank.

 

Does not sound like you actually like being here? If the immigration rules are too onerous, try somewhere like Saudi, then you will know real pain in the a..

[BerndD]

[Nemises]

7 minutes ago, bigt3116 said:

 

Does not sound like you actually like being here? If the immigration rules are too onerous, try somewhere like Saudi, then you will know real pain in the a..

Love being here. Also love looking at the 2 million baht balance that my original 800k investment is now worth after 10 years in the S&P 500 instead of sitting dormant in some Thai bank. Have no idea about immigration rules as I've never been in an IO... and never will.

 

[bamnutsak]

5 hours ago, arick said:

Your first 90 day report can not be done online after your visa renewal

 

Not in my experience.

 

For the last three years, or since the new online system was introduced, I have completed my 'first' 90-day report on-line after my annual renewal of my extension of stay. 

 

My office is CW.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[bamnutsak]

12 minutes ago, BerndD said:

 

[OneManShow]

Just do a TM-30 once a year, if no TM-30 by any hotel/house owner during the year.

[Will B Good]

41 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:

 

Not in my experience.

 

For the last three years, or since the new online system was introduced, I have completed my 'first' 90-day report on-line after my annual renewal of my extension of stay. 

 

My office is CW.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When you say 'first' .......does the mean after having returned from abroad?

[proton]

1 hour ago, Nemises said:

Agents are also for those who have their money invested in their home country and have better things to do then F-ing around with Thai IOs and their reporting BS. Not to mention getting near-zero % return on your 800k sitting uselessly in some Thai bank.

 

We often hear of this fantasy, if you have not got the confidence to deposit 4-800k or have money deposited every month you are probably too insecure to live here. I get 2% on my 800k, even if you got 5 at home the difference is not a lot, and that gets wiped out by the agents fee

[proton]

26 minutes ago, OneManShow said:

Just do a TM-30 once a year, if no TM-30 by any hotel/house owner during the year.

 

Not done one for 7 years, why do one every year if at the same address?

[Nemises]

16 minutes ago, proton said:

 

We often hear of this fantasy, if you have not got the confidence to deposit 4-800k or have money deposited every month you are probably too insecure to live here. I get 2% on my 800k, even if you got 5 at home the difference is not a lot, and that gets wiped out by the agents fee

Fantasy? So the 15% average that the S&P 500 has returned over the past 10 years is a “fantasy”. Got it 👍 

 

 

 

[Hamus Yaigh]

1 hour ago, bamnutsak said:

7 hours ago, arick said:

Your first 90 day report can not be done online after your visa renewal

 

Not in my experience.

 

For the last three years, or since the new online system was introduced, I have completed my 'first' 90-day report on-line after my annual renewal of my extension of stay. 

 

My office is CW.

But Arick is talking about a new visa and you are talking about a new extension of stay. Not the same.

[PJ71]

2 hours ago, billd766 said:

Not quite so simple.

 

The IO at Kamphaeng Phet does not accept any agents.

 

For simple, try looking into a mirror.

Nice insult......

 

I live where there's no agents but guess what.......yip, agents deal with that too..... the list of benifits is endless but you're poor, never mind....

[recom273]

On 12/25/2024 at 9:58 AM, Will B Good said:

 

In the same boat, but did read somewhere...... "online reports between 15 and 7 days before due date".....so going to give that a go next time.

I tried this before, I posted on here that the reporting time from 15 days until the date, not the 7 days after. So the last one, I filed in the window stated. Didn’t work. 
 

I have 17 successful reports, over two offices, there was even a time when the visa expiration date had changed, it was still accepted - for the last two, it has been rejected, two reasons given - Mai dai and Mai lue. 

[Will B Good]

Just now, recom273 said:

I tried this before, I posted on here that the reporting time from 15 days until the date, not the 7 days after. So the last one, I filed in the window stated. Didn’t work. 
 

I have 17 successful reports, over two offices, there was even a time when the visa expiration date had changed, it was still accepted - for the last two, it has been rejected, two reasons given - Mai dai and Mai lue. 

 

 

Arrrggghhh!!

 

Well I'll try in March then just switch to mail.....bit of nuisance having to do so.

[DrJack54]

Several off topic posts relating to opportunity cost removed. 

The thread is online 90 day reporting 

[bamnutsak]

1 hour ago, Will B Good said:

 

When you say 'first' .......does the mean after having returned from abroad?

 

No.

 

2 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

I have completed my 'first' 90-day report on-line after my annual renewal of my extension of stay

 

[Gobbler]

On 12/25/2024 at 10:36 AM, proton said:

 

Agents are for the lazy, the clueless and those without the needed funds. Anyone can call themselves an agent, totally unregulated with no accountability. Almost parasites.

 

You are as wrong as you can be. Assuming you have a trustworthy agent (I used Nan Services), It is 100 percent worth paying extra. 

 

Why? Just do the math.  Account for your time, the trips to the Bank, pictures, and all the other things, including pay Grab; it only costs a few thousand baht to pay the agent. 

 

Just account for all your costs, and you will see. 

[bamnutsak]

1 hour ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

But Arick is talking about a new visa and you are talking about a new extension of stay. Not the same.

 

Arick used the term "visa renewal" - which may not be a thing - and by which I assumed they meant an extension of stay.

 

 

[arick]

1 hour ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

But Arick is talking about a new visa and you are talking about a new extension of stay. Not the same.

I'm talking every year that you go to do your new extension You're not allowed to do the first 90 days online only the second and third.

[arick]

I'm not talking about a new visa I'm talking about your extension your extension every time you do a new extension The first 90 days is not allowed online

[arick]

Maybe call up immigration or post and copy and paste from their website but it says your first 90 days is not allowed well every time you go and do an extension it's your new extension You're not allowed to do the first 90 days.

[arick]

Several users suggest that first-time reporting after a trip must be done in person and that mistakes in information provided can lead to rejection. Suggestions and alternatives include submitting early or using mail for reliability.

My online works but every time I take a trip and I try to do the 90-day report after the trip it is rejected.

[arick]

15 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:

 

Arick used the term "visa renewal" - which may not be a thing - and by which I assumed they meant an extension of stay.

 

 

Visa renewal Visa extension of stay whatever if you don't have the paperwork your visas canceled so it doesn't matter if it's a Visa extension or extension of stay if you don't have the paperwork your Visa is canceled. I don't even have a visa in my passport it just stamped with extensions.

[SAFETY FIRST]

10 minutes ago, arick said:

I'm not talking about a new visa I'm talking about your extension your extension every time you do a new extension The first 90 days is not allowed online

So I've just renewed my extension, what you are saying my next 90 day report must be done in person? 

 

[DrJack54]

12 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

So I've just renewed my extension, what you are saying my next 90 day report must be done in person? 

 

Applying for annual extension has nothing to do with 90 day reporting.

There are some offices that do report at time of extension.

Several posts above are straight up incorrect.

If report window is open at time of annual extension then you can max that visit by doing the TM47 same visit.

Note: you do the extension first then the TM47.

At CW (mentioned earlier) you will attend different desks. 

[DrJack54]

18 minutes ago, arick said:

Visa renewal Visa extension of stay whatever if you don't have the paperwork your visas canceled so it doesn't matter if it's a Visa extension or extension of stay if you don't have the paperwork your Visa is canceled. I don't even have a visa in my passport it just stamped with extensions.

I just pick this one. Could pick several.

It's not visa renewal or visa extension.

It is 12 month extension to your permission of stay.

That is from a non O. 

It was not cancelled it was used.

Subsequent passports do not have that visa transfered.

Visas are not transfered.

However information regarding that Visa is and your ongoing extension requirements are governed by that visa. 

For example Non O-A vs Non O etc 

[DrJack54]

Off topic post re agents removed..

[SooKee]

30 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

So I've just renewed my extension, what you are saying my next 90 day report must be done in person? 

 

 

I've never had a problem with an online 90 day after renewing my extension.  Only time I had to go in person until recently was the first 90 day in a new passport.  I did however get an online application rejected by CW about a week ago, it being the first since I returned to Thailand in October.  Now waiting to see if a postal application will be accepted (despite the rejection email for the online report saying fist 90 day after re-entry must be done in person).  Not holding out much hope but if they do accept it, it will save me some hassle, worth the 50 baht to see.