And on the flip-side --

 

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Maga doesn't want to talk about climate change. So we get this kind of idiocy.

 

Idiocy?  Please explain how talking about climate change would have helped California.  Gavin Newsom talked a lot about it.  How did that go?

22 hours ago, mokwit said:

On 1/10/2025 at 9:06 PM, Walker88 said:

So how would your love muffin prevented all of this? Sweep the forests? Hold up his tiny hand to stop 100 mph winds?

 

He ain't no god, but you cult members are so easily fooled that you think so.

 

MAGAs get sillier and sillier by the day.

 

Maybe he wouldn't have cut the fire dept budget by $17m and put a DEI hire in charge of it. There's more.

 

Love the way this guy thinks he's got a great point with his "What would Trump have done?", without even knowing the extent to which the Dems have made the situation worse.  Literally no idea what is happening, but speaks confidently and gets in a misplaced "MAGA bad" dig as well.

 

It's great to see these ninnies instantly shut down.

Not many libs in this thread to blame it on trump i guess

2 hours ago, Pouatchee said:

 

known your threads for quite a while. funny... are you now pro-trump? You used to throw him out with the dish water... 

 

Absolutely not....one of my real concerns, politics aside is......whatever happened to role models???

 

He has to be the most horrendous example you could put forward to the human race of what boys might aspire to.

Reported personal attack removed.

 

Debate the subject, not attack members personally, be civil.

5 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Maga doesn't want to talk about climate change. So we get this kind of idiocy.

 

The Spanish explorers called California the "Bay of Smoke" in 1542, so I hardly think the burning is anything new, and certainly not Trump's fault.

https://www.pbssocal.org/shows/lost-la/why-did-a-1542-spanish-voyage-refer-to-san-pedro-bay-as-the-bay-of-the-smoke

21 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

The Spanish explorers called California the "Bay of Smoke" in 1542, so I hardly think the burning is anything new, and certainly not Trump's fault.

https://www.pbssocal.org/shows/lost-la/why-did-a-1542-spanish-voyage-refer-to-san-pedro-bay-as-the-bay-of-the-smoke

Nobody said it was new.

But as in Australia, Greece, Portugal, etc. things are now very much worse.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0ewe4p9128o

But but Trump

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5 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

Just for openers, empty reservoirs that should be full, insufficient numbers of firefighters, lack of a coordinated response. In other words. a general lack of competence. What has this got to do with the people you call MAGAs ?

 

Symptoms.

 

Fire department budget cut by $100 million.  Wacky environmental rules that prevent landowners from clearing dead trees, timber harvest is 10% of what it was 25 years ago, and state refusal to adequately clear undergrowth.

 

State regulations have created a tinderbox, therefore it's Trump's fault.

On 1/10/2025 at 9:12 PM, SunnyinBangrak said:

Not get rid of experienced firefighters and replace with diversity hires to play politics for a start.

 

Firefighting is mostly white and male. A California program aims to change that

 

"Fire departments have tried to diversify their ranks for years with only modest success. The profession remains overwhelmingly white and male. One California training program is trying to change that."

 

https://www.npr.org/2023/06/05/1180213128/firefighting-is-mostly-white-and-male-a-california-program-aims-to-change-that#:~:text=A California program aims to change that Fire departments have,is trying to change that.

 

How's that DEI policy working out for LA homeowners?

 

So what evidence do you have that DEI has changed the effectiveness of the Fire Departments in California?.......clue....do not answer "look at the fires in LA".

Counter intentional blame the democrats game disinformation from the Trump led maga cultists with FACTS.

 

 

Fact-checking criticism of California Democrats over fires

 

Rumors About LA Fire Department Budget Cuts Are Missing Context | Snopes.com

 

12 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

So what evidence do you have that DEI has changed the effectiveness of the Fire Departments in California?.......clue....do not answer "look at the fires in LA".

All the "evidence" they need is that the white nationalist maga movement hates seeing any minorities in positions of power and falsely conflates them as all being incompetent. They do accept TOKEN minority people as long as these TOKEN people express support for the overall maga movement which is at its core white nationalist. They are particularly very obsessed with fomenting ignorant violence inciting hatred towards transgender people. Authoritarian movements do need their scapegoats.

The truth is there are both competent and incompetent people in important positions of all kinds of descriptions. You can't generalize.

5 hours ago, Pouatchee said:

 

known your threads for quite a while. funny... are you now pro-trump? You used to throw him out with the dish water... 

Sarcasm clearly goes over the heads of some posters.......

56 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

The Spanish explorers called California the "Bay of Smoke" in 1542, so I hardly think the burning is anything new, and certainly not Trump's fault.

https://www.pbssocal.org/shows/lost-la/why-did-a-1542-spanish-voyage-refer-to-san-pedro-bay-as-the-bay-of-the-smoke

True, the burning is nothing new. What is different is the wind speed.

 

The strongest Santa Ana wind speed ever recorded was in December 2011, with an average wind speed of 156 km/hr, and gusts of up to 269 km/hr. The winds of the current fire were weaker, at a mere 100 km/hr, still faster than some people drive.

 

Given the convergence of fuel, house construction, dryness, and wind speed, there was nothing firefighters could do. Tripling staff, equipment and water supply would have ended the same way. P!ssing into the wind springs to mind.

 

How fast does the wind need to be before people acknowledge the climate is changing?

 

True, in this instance it's not Trump's fault. Neither is it the fault of Biden or Newsom.

 

In the broader picture, it IS Trump's fault. He's always been a climate denier, and has the same comprehension of science as an amoeba. That will carry over into his second term.

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7 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Maga doesn't want to talk about climate change. So we get this kind of idiocy.

 

 

What's the point, there is nothing we can do about it, it's natural not man made.

13 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

True, the burning is nothing new. What is different is the wind speed.

 

The strongest Santa Ana wind speed ever recorded was in December 2011, with an average wind speed of 156 km/hr, and gusts of up to 269 km/hr. The winds of the current fire were weaker, at a mere 100 km/hr, still faster than some people drive.

 

Given the convergence of fuel, house construction, dryness, and wind speed, there was nothing firefighters could do. Tripling staff, equipment and water supply would have ended the same way. P!ssing into the wind springs to mind.

 

How fast does the wind need to be before people acknowledge the climate is changing?

 

True, in this instance it's not Trump's fault. Neither is it the fault of Biden or Newsom.

 

In the broader picture, it IS Trump's fault. He's always been a climate denier, and has the same comprehension of science as an amoeba. That will carry over into his second term.

I thought you said it was shingle roofs, now it’s Trump. 

 

 

8 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

Sunday morning commentary.

 

LA is burning down.

 

People are extremely resistant to change.  At least some are.  Oftentimes they don't change until the pain not to is significantly greater than the pain to change.

 

Human nature?  Nah.  It's all in the schooling.

Tipp ,its All in the Main Stream Media constant leftest propaganda as well, many are activist  pretending to be 

journalists.

 

51 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Counter intentional blame the democrats game disinformation from the Trump led maga cultists with FACTS.

 

 

Fact-checking criticism of California Democrats over fires

 

Rumors About LA Fire Department Budget Cuts Are Missing Context | Snopes.com

 

haha, bbc verify, so now they're a fact checking outlet, the bbc fact checking themselves?

 

i guess they're all scrambling to get control on the narratives not Zucker has banned the fake fact checkers from FB

2 minutes ago, proton said:

 

What's the point, there is nothing we can do about it, it's natural not man made.

Obviously, you know more than the 95% of scientists who agree global warming and climate change result from anthropomorphic emissions of carbon dioxide.

 

Please list the sources of your knowledge. Do you have a B Sc., M.Sc or Ph.D in any of the applicable fields, such as meteorology, climatology, oceanography, or thermodynamics?

 

Or are you an acolyte of social influencers, such as Alex Jones or Jordan Peterson?

 

What is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

6 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

haha, bbc verify, so now they're a fact checking outlet, the bbc fact checking themselves?

 

i guess they're all scrambling to get control on the narratives not Zucker has banned the fake fact checkers from FB

The left is livid that Zuck reassigned his Fact Checkers !

I had dinner last night with a closet Netherlands liberal ,a dye in wool

Canadian liberal and a young French lad who brought up Le Pen , the NL & CA guys were besides themselves with 
hatred for Trump! They didnt even know the alternative would be a community note system!

 

40 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

True, the burning is nothing new. What is different is the wind speed.

 

The strongest Santa Ana wind speed ever recorded was in December 2011, with an average wind speed of 156 km/hr, and gusts of up to 269 km/hr. The winds of the current fire were weaker, at a mere 100 km/hr, still faster than some people drive.

 

I'm confused.

 

Global warming reduces the wind speed?

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

But but Trump

You got to wonder how far the Msm

are gonna investigate the legitimacy of Newsome’s independent analysis of the crisis!

They are so far up the butt of Newsome political narratives.

On 1/10/2025 at 8:03 PM, riclag said:

Everything the dems touch they destroy . Progressives visions of control are radical , destructive and the proof is in the pictures in the OP.

 

2021 article explaining:
“How Democrats Ruin Everything: The New York Times”

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/how-democrats-ruin-everything-the-new-york-times/

I think you have a serious problem, especially for someone who doesn't live in the USA.....🤔

 

Or do you live in the USA, or is it just a crush on Biden or Harris and you got jilted........?

27 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Obviously, you know more than the 95% of scientists who agree global warming and climate change result from anthropomorphic emissions of carbon dioxide.

 

Please list the sources of your knowledge. Do you have a B Sc., M.Sc or Ph.D in any of the applicable fields, such as meteorology, climatology, oceanography, or thermodynamics?

 

Or are you an acolyte of social influencers, such as Alex Jones or Jordan Peterson?

 

What is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

 

The 95% of scientists was debunked years ago. Co2 is just 0.04% of the atmosphere, of that 97% is natural the amount humans contribute makes zero difference to global warming

Just now, proton said:

 

The 95% of scientists was debunked years ago

Link..........🤔

Blame it on anything other than climate change, all you high IQ scientific genius MAGA-ites.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, riclag said:

9 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

Sunday morning commentary.

 

LA is burning down.

 

People are extremely resistant to change.  At least some are.  Oftentimes they don't change until the pain not to is significantly greater than the pain to change.

 

Human nature?  Nah.  It's all in the schooling.

Tipp ,its All in the Main Stream Media constant leftest propaganda as well, many are activist  pretending to be 

journalists.

 

Dumb ideas commonly cause pain.  Yet some people here still promote them.  The ruling class of California is first in class for dumb ideas.  Yet some people here still can't see them for what they are; dumb ideas.  Dumb ideas are ideas that don't work.

 

LA is burning down.

 

That should be a wake up call that brings attention to all of the dumb ideas.  And the dumb azzes in charge who implement the dumb ideas should immediately be tossed out.  Newsom, the LA mayor, and the fire chief would be a good start.  Unfortunately, doing that wouldn't change a thing.  Because the dumb azzes who voted for these dumb azzes, because they believe that their dumb azz ideas are actually workable and still believe in their dumb azz ideas, will simply vote for the next dumb azz who promotes the same dumb azz ideas.  So, nothing ever changes in California.

 

I find the most laughable posts to be the ones that attempt to convince that this mass scale tragic travesty could not have been avoided by applying human agency.  Those are the posters who altogether missed the wake up call.  Maybe it's to avoid having their dumb azz ideas scrutinized because they don't want to change their dumb azz ideas.  Not enough pain for them yet.

 

BTW, these fires are nowhere near being contained.  Much more pain to come.