Loneliness can have life threatening consequences.

 

So, they're in Pattaya for their health.

 

Science. 😄

 

Loneliness can indeed have life-threatening consequences, as research has strongly linked social isolation and loneliness to an increased risk of various health problems including heart disease, stroke, depression, dementia, and even premature death; essentially, prolonged loneliness can significantly impact a person's overall health and wellbeing, potentially leading to fatal outcomes. 
Key points about the dangers of loneliness:
Physical health impact:
Loneliness can contribute to high blood pressure, weakened immune system, and increased risk of cardiovascular diseases. 
Mental health impact:
It is strongly associated with depression, anxiety, and increased suicidal thoughts. 
Cognitive decline:
Studies suggest a link between social isolation and cognitive decline, potentially increasing the risk of dementia. 
Stress hormone elevation:
Feeling lonely can lead to increased cortisol levels, which can have detrimental effects on the body. 
 

 

 

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

As you and I are...... it is a form of social interaction though. 

I'm afraid that AN will go the same way as X (former Twitter). Discussions don't happen, just confrontation.

Even this is interaction as you said. 

Kind of brutalization?

On 5/4/2024 at 11:41 AM, georgegeorgia said:

I have come to the conclusion after 2 weeks here that there are many lonely guys here expats living in hot shoebox rooms , 

 

I have had to start using my headphones to deter lonely people AND attention seekers 

 

Attention seekers are guys who look for you and try to get a reaction 

One guy sitting next to me on a banana chair trying to impress me that he can speak thai , shouting in the phone then looking to see if I'm looking 

 

I sit outside in view talay apartment reading my books right in a corner chair well AWAY from others only to get some one who wants to sit next to me ,all the way out of the way from the pool,only me sitting there doing my statistics and data study  and still get a farang sit next to me and proceed to shout on a phone call in Thai.!

 

I then had to get my headphones out or move, he then got angry tapped me on the shoulder ' hey buddy do you know what time it is ?

 

Lonely guys ,please don't make a expat life exciting if you are living in shoe boxes looking to attention seeking for lonilessness 

Life here in Pattaya doesn't look exciting to these old bored expats 

 

I'm here to read my books not have get into conversations or hear your whinging stories 

 

 

 

Seems like the grumpy old man virus has creeped into you…

On 5/4/2024 at 11:41 AM, georgegeorgia said:

I have come to the conclusion after 2 weeks here that there are many lonely guys here expats living in hot shoebox rooms , 

 

I have had to start using my headphones to deter lonely people AND attention seekers 

 

Attention seekers are guys who look for you and try to get a reaction 

One guy sitting next to me on a banana chair trying to impress me that he can speak thai , shouting in the phone then looking to see if I'm looking 

 

I sit outside in view talay apartment reading my books right in a corner chair well AWAY from others only to get some one who wants to sit next to me ,all the way out of the way from the pool,only me sitting there doing my statistics and data study  and still get a farang sit next to me and proceed to shout on a phone call in Thai.!

 

I then had to get my headphones out or move, he then got angry tapped me on the shoulder ' hey buddy do you know what time it is ?

 

Lonely guys ,please don't make a expat life exciting if you are living in shoe boxes looking to attention seeking for lonilessness 

Life here in Pattaya doesn't look exciting to these old bored expats 

 

I'm here to read my books not have get into conversations or hear your whinging stories 

 

 

 

Move to south Jomtien and you can live in the slums of old Stalingrad. I agree this place is no more. It was good for saving some money for a while but now its a sad story that nobody wants to read.

2 minutes ago, rckmc said:

Move to south Jomtien and you can live in the slums of old Stalingrad. I agree this place is no more. It was good for saving some money for a while but now its a sad story that nobody wants to read.

Unfortunate you meet expats all over the country who came with a dream, and now realize not only their currency is as strong as it used to be, but prices for food and entertainment makes life a bit more difficult to enjoy life. Less socializing, more lifestyle issues, and what about partners? 

 

Jomtien is not the worst place, and for normal people it is easy to get around and enjoy a simple life, but you need to maintain an healthy mind to live not only in Pattaya, but anywhere you want to retire. 

 

There is no easy escapes being an expat in Thailand. 

 

 

12 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Unfortunate you meet expats all over the country who came with a dream, and now realize not only their currency is as strong as it used to be, but prices for food and entertainment makes life a bit more difficult to enjoy life. Less socializing, more lifestyle issues, and what about partners? 

 

Jomtien is not the worst place, and for normal people it is easy to get around and enjoy a simple life, but you need to maintain an healthy mind to live not only in Pattaya, but anywhere you want to retire. 

 

There is no easy escapes being an expat in Thailand. 

 

 

The contrast between smiling friendly Thai's and dead stare, unfriendly Russians is a train wreck waiting to occur. Im not going to be around when that happens RIP Thailand! As far as currencies go, obviously its all by design to usher us into a new system without our approval of course. Ill let you guess who is behind it all and it isnt the British Crown as they say (which once consisted of Celts).

Hahaha love this classic clickbait, had a  giggle reading the replies!

On 5/4/2024 at 12:13 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Why did you go to Pattaya to read books though ?

Its a place that is known for prostitution , drinking and noise .

Why didn't you go to location where the people that go to Pattaya don't go ?

There are plenty of places in Thailand where you can go and sit quietly on your own to read a book , Pattaya isn't one of them 

 

On 5/4/2024 at 11:41 AM, georgegeorgia said:

I have come to the conclusion after 2 weeks here that there are many lonely guys here expats living in hot shoebox rooms , 

 

I have had to start using my headphones to deter lonely people AND attention seekers 

 

Attention seekers are guys who look for you and try to get a reaction 

One guy sitting next to me on a banana chair trying to impress me that he can speak thai , shouting in the phone then looking to see if I'm looking 

 

I sit outside in view talay apartment reading my books right in a corner chair well AWAY from others only to get some one who wants to sit next to me ,all the way out of the way from the pool,only me sitting there doing my statistics and data study  and still get a farang sit next to me and proceed to shout on a phone call in Thai.!

 

I then had to get my headphones out or move, he then got angry tapped me on the shoulder ' hey buddy do you know what time it is ?

 

Lonely guys ,please don't make a expat life exciting if you are living in shoe boxes looking to attention seeking for lonilessness 

Life here in Pattaya doesn't look exciting to these old bored expats 

 

I'm here to read my books not have get into conversations or hear your whinging stories 

 

 

 

Utter rubbish.

On 5/4/2024 at 12:13 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Why did you go to Pattaya to read books though ?

Its a place that is known for prostitution , drinking and noise .

Why didn't you go to location where the people that go to Pattaya don't go ?

There are plenty of places in Thailand where you can go and sit quietly on your own to read a book , Pattaya isn't one of them 

More utter rubbish.

19 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Unfortunate you meet expats all over the country who came with a dream, and now realize not only their currency is as strong as it used to be, but prices for food and entertainment makes life a bit more difficult to enjoy life. Less socializing, more lifestyle issues, and what about partners? 

 

Jomtien is not the worst place, and for normal people it is easy to get around and enjoy a simple life, but you need to maintain an healthy mind to live not only in Pattaya, but anywhere you want to retire. 

 

There is no easy escapes being an expat in Thailand. 

 

 

A local bar I used to stop by and have one or two when I first got here a few years ago was always at least a happy place with well known music or maybe any number of sports on the TV (golf, rugby, football (both of them) etc) and you might even meet someone with an upbeat positive outlook in the present tense, now I walk by this place and its Russians all individually staring ahead with a cell phone in one hand and a look like deer in the headlights. Makes me physically ill.

1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

I'm afraid that AN will go the same way as X (former Twitter). Discussions don't happen, just confrontation.

Even this is interaction as you said. 

Kind of brutalization?

Why no (formerly TV) after AN? Just to keep us all up tp date! 555

44 minutes ago, rckmc said:

A local bar I used to stop by and have one or two when I first got here a few years ago was always at least a happy place with well known music or maybe any number of sports on the TV (golf, rugby, football (both of them) etc) and you might even meet someone with an upbeat positive outlook in the present tense, now I walk by this place and its Russians all individually staring ahead with a cell phone in one hand and a look like deer in the headlights. Makes me physically ill.

All the good things we remember, doesn't exists anymore the way we remember them.

 

When I First came to Thailands beaches,  I could go anywhere and find like-minded people to socialize with both daytime and evening. No internet, reading books, meet up for activities during the day, climbing, hiking, kayaking, snorkeling, diving trips, motorbike trips down to boarder, and useally met for breakest and dinners, as well parties. 

 

At my age now, the only hope to make new friends is to ride motorbikes either organize trips, which I have done, or join other group tours. Play golf, visit neighbours, or any other possible meeting points, and I find myself among people I have nothing in common with.

 

Very few I have met who are retired I can associate with, and just a few who do, but they are working full-time. 

 

Everyone need a good plan for retirement, and not just trust their finances will fix everything, but ,,,,,,,,,,

 

Always have a plan be, and if things doesn't work out the way you hoped for, move, try something different. 

 

 

On 1/5/2025 at 3:59 PM, henryford1958 said:

That's why i would never have bought in any of the View Taleys.  They look like prison blocks and obviously attract a certain type of person..

       More utter nonsense.  Spouse and I owned 9 View Talay condos, at various times, scattered around VT3, 5C, 5D, and 7.  Sold every one of them at a profit.  Each of the projects is in a good, beachside location.  From VT3 on, the projects offered much larger units, many 90 sqm or more, in addition to 48 sqm studios, which are actually larger than a lot of studios in new projects of 25 sqm or less.   We have been in some stunning VT condos, including a beautiful condo of a friend of ours in one of the bigger units in VT3.  Like Pattaya itself, you get a number of people that don't know what they are talking about when they discuss condos, VT included.

     Contrary to some of the snide remarks here, including yours, the majority of the residents I encountered when I lived in the VT condos with my spouse were normal folk, living normal lives.  That was also true for the other projects we lived at--from Garden Cliff in the north to Lumpini Park Beach in the south--with a number of stops at other condos in-between.  Some married, some single.  Some living there full-time, some living in their condos only during the winter months, escaping European, Canadian, and US winters. 

     The VTs have a very reasonable condo fee so many from cold countries can afford to keep a VT condo year-round, even though they may only use it during the winter months.  When we lived at VT3, in a large 100+ sqm corner unit much bigger than many of the smaller condos in new buildings, we met a nice couple from Europe who did just that.  Originally, they rented a VT3 condo just during the winter months but then decided to buy a condo so they could keep their stuff in it year-round and not have to move in and out every year--the low condo fee made it an easy choice.

4 minutes ago, newnative said:

On 1/5/2025 at 3:59 PM, henryford1958 said:

That's why i would never have bought in any of the View Taleys.  They look like prison blocks and obviously attract a certain type of person..

       More utter nonsense.  Spouse and I owned 9 View Talay condos, at various times, scattered around VT3, 5C, 5D

I'm sure he's talking about VT1 and VT2, they are very different to 3, 5 and 7.

 

VT1 and 2 are set back from the beach, around 1km and are run down with mostly occupied by down and out foreigners. 

 

VT3, 5 and 7 are occupied by very different people, located on the beach and are much nicer designed and well maintained. 

 

 

 

On 1/6/2025 at 2:44 AM, georgegeorgia said:

Absolutely,I was locked up in that VT 2B last May 

I had to escape,luckily a member here EK drove past at the back of the cafe and I jumped the fence !

 

Glad to help 

5 hours ago, jippytum said:

You sound like a person who enjoys their own space and company. Nothing wrong with that. St

TCl made friends with people over the years sometimes a friendship that started from a causual polite convesation. 

 

3 hours ago, jippytum said:

Agreed.  remember the next person you meet could  end up being your best friend 

That 's how I met the wife .....I think !

On 5/4/2024 at 11:51 AM, JimTripper said:

Which VT are you in and for how long?

 

These types of interactions are there. I think part if it is the bar scene here. Guys are used to sitting at a barstool near other guys and expecting a conversation.

 

I also interpret some if it as gay, but it depends on the guy. It's always at the back of my mind. 

Your right. What nationality is the guy who started this. I note in the UK we have a pub culture. You go to the pub for a beer and generally talk to anyone who is there. Interact. But so many nationalities don't have that . Russians don't even speak to each other! Many nationalities happily walk down the street or sit on the kerb with a bottle of beer. British sit in a bar because we have a pub culture & we socialise.

Pattaya is what YOU make it to be. You can be lonely or a drinker, or explore the area

 

I started my Thai experience in BKK.  I was meeting Ladies via the apks available on the net. ( since COVID, the "professionals" are using the apks - beware!!! ) Found a lady that was a secretary at a shoe factory - I went there to meet her, and started the romance at 67 - she in her 50's

 Went back to USA, returned 3 months later to Pattaya because it was closer to her.  1st "room" was smaller than a shoe box, lasted 1 month there had my own entrance to the room and a friendly Soi dog that guarded the steps to the room at night. 

 

Rented a motor scooter ( monthly ) and went looking for a place.

 

Found a Thai residence hotel, in the downtown area, for LESS cost than the mini shoe box. A corner roomn that contained 2 sofas, table, refrigerator, TV, and a queen bed, monster shower and a balcony, 1 big window with black out drapes.

Transportation, restaurants, convince stores almost at the door. 5 farang residents - 1 lived there for 12 years, out of 70 residents.  Farang were of mixed nationals.

Girlfriend stayed on the weekend with no management problems.

Since I had a scooter, I would go to Chon Buri to pick her up on Friday, (or holidays), take her back on Suunday.

 

Otherwise I explored on scooter all of Pattaya, some of Chon Buri and Suttahip to keep myself busy.

1 hour ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

VT1 and 2 are set back from the beach, around 1km and are run down with mostly occupied by down and out foreigners. 

VT1b is very well taken care of. I've stayed there many times and up to 2 months at times.

Now NO ROOMS. Very popular among Italians. They are funny people, we have lot of fun at pool. No skinny babes,, through.

 

VT1a used to be more run down and many go go type bars but Covid killed 90% of them so that's quiet too.

 

VT2a and b has always been well taken care off. I like the big private yard to walk.

 

Bad mouthing person knows nothing about VT properties... One morning he'll wake up with horse's head.

 

 

 

3 hours ago, newnative said:

       More utter nonsense.  Spouse and I owned 9 View Talay condos, at various times, scattered around VT3, 5C, 5D, and 7.  Sold every one of them at a profit.  Each of the projects is in a good, beachside location.  From VT3 on, the projects offered much larger units, many 90 sqm or more, in addition to 48 sqm studios, which are actually larger than a lot of studios in new projects of 25 sqm or less.   We have been in some stunning VT condos, including a beautiful condo of a friend of ours in one of the bigger units in VT3.  Like Pattaya itself, you get a number of people that don't know what they are talking about when they discuss condos, VT included.

     Contrary to some of the snide remarks here, including yours, the majority of the residents I encountered when I lived in the VT condos with my spouse were normal folk, living normal lives.  That was also true for the other projects we lived at--from Garden Cliff in the north to Lumpini Park Beach in the south--with a number of stops at other condos in-between.  Some married, some single.  Some living there full-time, some living in their condos only during the winter months, escaping European, Canadian, and US winters. 

     The VTs have a very reasonable condo fee so many from cold countries can afford to keep a VT condo year-round, even though they may only use it during the winter months.  When we lived at VT3, in a large 100+ sqm corner unit much bigger than many of the smaller condos in new buildings, we met a nice couple from Europe who did just that.  Originally, they rented a VT3 condo just during the winter months but then decided to buy a condo so they could keep their stuff in it year-round and not have to move in and out every year--the low condo fee made it an easy choice.

You can have it mate, all yours! And FU too!

1 hour ago, GypsyT said:

VT1b is very well taken care of. I've stayed there many times and up to 2 months at times.

Now NO ROOMS. Very popular among Italians. They are funny people, we have lot of fun at pool. No skinny babes,, through.

 

VT1a used to be more run down and many go go type bars but Covid killed 90% of them so that's quiet too.

 

VT2a and b has always been well taken care off. I like the big private yard to walk.

 

Bad mouthing person knows nothing about VT properties... One morning he'll wake up with horse's head.

 

 

 

Great place for Russians who stay up all night long working not caring one iota about disturbing anyone or the numerous chair draggers and imbeciles who sneeze with all their might on the balcony numerous times a day. If you like San Quentin VT (any of them) are the places for you. I could add to this but what for, obviously some people are numb to it and belong there.

1 hour ago, rckmc said:

If you like San Quentin

What better than that?

Free meals 3x a day.

Guards keeping riff raff out.

2x a week mating visits by your babe, and so on

 

I lived in Bangok for 20 years, and for the last 5 years wasn't in a relationship, and wasn't screwing-around either. Couldn't be bothered, money wasn't an issue,  and I didn't feel particularly lonely.

one of the great benefits of travel is meeting interesting people.  i think the best are travelers

Who really knows whether someone is lonely other than the individual themselves.

 

These types of thread are invariably started by individuals not living here who try to project an impression that those who are are unhappy. I think it's a form of envy/jealousy because they are stuck elsewhere, discontent with their lives.

2 hours ago, kinyara said:

Who really knows whether someone is lonely other than the individual themselves.

 

These types of thread are invariably started by individuals not living here who try to project an impression that those who are are unhappy. I think it's a form of envy/jealousy because they are stuck elsewhere, discontent with their lives.

I'm not really sure what people expect for elderly men or women, at some time your partner will either leave or die, so one of you at least will end up alone.

At that stage you either end up living alone or in a retirement/nursing home back in the west, here you can choose a new (younger) woman and family or continue alone.

 

I've gone the new (younger) woman and family, but would be equally happy alone with my rabbits.

My policy is to make the most of life while you still have it!

At nearly 70, I can't really believe what a great time I'm still having.

On 1/10/2025 at 9:44 AM, SAFETY FIRST said:

I'm sure he's talking about VT1 and VT2, they are very different to 3, 5 and 7.

 

VT1 and 2 are set back from the beach, around 1km and are run down with mostly occupied by down and out foreigners. 

 

VT3, 5 and 7 are occupied by very different people, located on the beach and are much nicer designed and well maintained. 

 

 

 

Or check VT6 which by most any measure is the best location in all of pattaya if you want convenience.  It is a well built well run building and many people are paying top $$ to stay there especially in peak months. Like most any condo many units are highly upgraded by their owners while some are not so upgraded.

 

Of course anyone can likely find a cheaper, newer place in Jomtien or Naklua or ? but you will not find a better location that literally is next door to central mall on one side, second road on one side, beachfront on the other side, and all of soi buahkow on the other side with baht buses on your front or back door steps.  For some it is perhaps too busy but if you like convenience I have yet to see anyplace that can compete.

 

Haters and whiners love to bash places that they know little to nothing about.

11 minutes ago, pomchop said:

On 1/10/2025 at 9:44 AM, SAFETY FIRST said:

I'm sure he's talking about VT1 and VT2, they are very different to 3, 5 and 7.

 

VT1 and 2 are set back from the beach, around 1km and are run down with mostly occupied by down and out foreigners. 

 

VT3, 5 and 7 are occupied by very different people, located on the beach and are much nicer designed and well maintained. 

 

 

 

Or check VT6 which by most any measure is the best location in all of pattaya if you want convenience.  It is a well built well run building and many people are paying top $$ to stay there especially in peak months. Like most any condo many units are highly upgraded by their owners while some are not so upgraded.

 

Of course anyone can likely find a cheaper, newer place in Jomtien or Naklua or ? but you will not find a better location that literally is next door to central mall on one side, second road on one side, beachfront on the other side, and all of soi buahkow on the other side with baht buses on your front or back door steps.  For some it is perhaps too busy but if you like convenience I have yet to see anyplace that can compete.

 

Haters and whiners love to bash places that they know little to nothing about

We weren't talking about VT6 but now that you have brought it up.

I read about residents complaining regularly, saying the noise coming from the beach, many times throughout the year they set up stages along the beach front, bands playing loud music through the night and early hours. 

 

So BEST LOCATION,......... Nope. 

 

On 1/11/2025 at 2:27 PM, BritManToo said:

I'm not really sure what people expect for elderly men or women, at some time your partner will either leave or die, so one of you at least will end up alone.

At that stage you either end up living alone or in a retirement/nursing home back in the west, here you can choose a new (younger) woman and family or continue alone.

 

I've gone the new (younger) woman and family, but would be equally happy alone with my rabbits.

My policy is to make the most of life while you still have it!

At nearly 70, I can't really believe what a great time I'm still having.

And you need to to do more !

Challenge yourself 

Try going to rave parties ,dance clubs etc 

Gay saunas , moon parties ,do things outside the box 

You have another 10-15 years left at most