Maybe an idea to first teach 2-wheelers and 4-wheelers what a pedestrian zone is!

Felt

6 hours ago, henryford1958 said:

Don't they understand yet, Thais don't stop at crossings. They are dangerous and should be removed.

 

6 hours ago, henryford1958 said:

Don't they understand yet, Thais don't stop at crossings. They are dangerous and should be removed.

Yes. Thais are dangerous and should be removed. Huh....Wait?🙃🙃

13 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

Rumble strips, for example, are known to reduce accidents in two-lane roads by up to 64% and prevent vehicles from veering off the road by 36%, according to research.

 

In Thailand, or nations with legitimate traffic enforcement?

 

13 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

Dr. Santikarn emphasised that it is not difficult to implement these measures, citing successful examples from other countries, where such interventions have resulted in an immediate reduction in crashes.

 

Exactly!

Nobody cares. Thats it. Nothing will change.Move along,next story

17 hours ago, sandbox said:

someone will drive into the back of you.

 

That would/should be that drivers fault. And the driver should be fined heavely

Multiple Collisions at 20 Pedestrian Crossings in Bangkok Raise Alarm

 

It's a Care Factor(Zero) and Attitude Problem (Giant) From the Powers Above that suppose to Teach /Educate the Natives  The Proper Way the Road Rules  (LAWS)  and ENFORCE .

 

There's Two ways of doing things :  The RIGHT WAY   OR. The THAI WAY. 🙏

On 2/9/2025 at 3:08 AM, Georgealbert said:

A concerning pattern of repeated incidents at 20 pedestrian crossings in Bangkok has come to light

They don't work on high speed multi lane roads ??

20 hours ago, henryford1958 said:

Don't they understand yet, Thais don't stop at crossings. They are dangerous and should be removed.

Thais or the crossings should be removed

Re: In an interview, Dr. Santikarn noted that many drivers, particularly taxi drivers, reported that they were often unaware of pedestrian crossings until it was too late.

 

Really, surely this cannot be true............

 

Taxi drivers can see a fare 100 yards ahead of them, flagging them down from the footpath

 

Yet they cannot see a marked pedestrian crossing directly in front of them

 

Give me a break, pull the other one, it squeaks.

Not aware of a pedestrian crossing???

 

It are those white lines which you drive over 1000s of times as a taxi driver. But they don't know traffic rules either. Only looking around for people who want to have a taxi...

20 hours ago, actonion said:

Problem is,..    the  Police Farce  being Thai they drive the same as the rest of these idiots, My Thai brother inlaw a Policman,   listens to me complaining  about traffic laws, and accidents, & cant understand why...So,  no hope...

I have a couple of friends that are police.  I was talking to one of them and asked, When you have checkpoints why don't you get someone with bulbs for motorcycles and charge them a few hundred baht to change them right there?  His only reply was, It is already illegal.

They don't get it.  They care more about collecting money than fixing problems.  I think their mindset is more like well if we have them fix it we won't be able to collect a fine next time.

2 hours ago, digger70 said:

 

There's Two ways of doing things :  The RIGHT WAY   OR. The THAI WAY. 🙏

 

AMEN!

It works for just about everything here, just apply the exact opposite to all logical situations, and you have the "THAI WAY".

AS p[er usual p[eople stating unclear signage as a cause, maybe BUT IOT IS THE DUTY AND RESPONSIBILITY OF ALL DRIVERS  to pay7 attention to ensuire ALL ROAD TRAFFIC laws are followed no matter what .

Poor enforcement is also part opf the cause, when was the last time anyone saw a uniformed police officer standing at a Zebra crossing, ion 23 years here. Never seen,when I asked. To hot, to polluted or to many vehicles was the answer  . After 30 years a cop those answers are at best pathetic, typical of the sloping shoulders adopted by many . not only in this country but also my own sadly. 

20 hours ago, Katatonica said:

A security guard manning a zebra crossing was killed in Karon, Phuket no so long ago whilst helping hotel guests across the road.

At Big C Future Park, there are security guards who will sometimes assist pedestrians across the marked pedestrian crossing out front. The guards have flags and glow sticks. Despite this, quite a few times I've seen cars almost hit people as they drive straight through the crossing despite there being guards escorting people across. I just don't get the mindset that makes drivers so uncaring about the safety of other people.

 

What might help would be installing speed humps before crossings, not the slightly raised, gentle flat type but the short, sharp ones you really feel if you go over them any faster than 5 kph. 

Some engineering issues that could help following the UK model.

1. Belisha beacons, the large flashing orange globes at each end of the crossing to increase visibility.

2. Spotlights at the kerb shining on pedestrians waiting to cross so drivers can see them at night.

3. Zigzag lines each side of the crossing to prohibit parking and overtaking on the approach side. Also give warning of crossing.

4. more pedestrian controlled traffic lights at crossings.

 

The rush of all those Thai riders is because they want to get home to sleep as soon as possible.
(x) Sarcasm off.

2 minutes ago, Classic Ray said:

Some engineering issues that could help following the UK model.

1. Belisha beacons, the large flashing orange globes at each end of the crossing to increase visibility.

2. Spotlights at the kerb shining on pedestrians waiting to cross so drivers can see them at night.

3. Zigzag lines each side of the crossing to prohibit parking and overtaking on the approach side. Also give warning of crossing.

4. more pedestrian controlled traffic lights at crossings.

 

 

None of which will work here, Thai drivers completely ignore the rights of pedestrians, refuse to stop at redlights or STOP signs, and generally don't care about the welfare of anyone outside of their own vehicles. They don't even care about their own safety, which tells you a lot about their mentality. 

The problem is that these stupid tourists seem to think, for some unfathomable reason, that vehicles stop at pedestrian crossings.

8 minutes ago, Classic Ray said:

1. Belisha beacons, the large flashing orange globes at each end of the crossing to increase visibility.

2. Spotlights at the kerb shining on pedestrians waiting to cross so drivers can see them at night.

3. Zigzag lines each side of the crossing to prohibit parking and overtaking on the approach side. Also give warning of crossing.

4. more pedestrian controlled traffic lights at crossings.

You are an incredible optimist.  I suggest you go to Sukhumvit in Bangkok and try to cross, even when you see the 'green man' at the junction between Sukhumvit Road and Soi's 3 & 4.

Maybe one day Thailand can have a department of some type that is not corrupt and enforce road rules and regulations and we actually see them regularly on the road fining people.

No just joking it can't and won't happen.

"Raise Alarm"

 

And then? What will follow?

Guess!😕

On 2/9/2025 at 9:51 AM, Emdog said:

"..concern over the lack of solutions to this ongoing issue. " Here's a solution: ENFORCE TRAFFIC LAWS! Station a cop at those crosswalks and his salary would be covered by noon if tickets were given... and fines collected

but if they won't stop at a pedestrian crossing for a pedestrian, why would they stop for a policeman?

On 2/9/2025 at 9:59 AM, lordgrinz said:

 

Correction: his salary would be covered by the first ticket, by noon he could fund his own police department.

Correction. Standing on a pedestrian crossing the policeman would be on his way to hospital or a morgue before he has chance to issue a ticket.😋

On 2/9/2025 at 10:01 AM, petedk said:

 

Not true. Most taxi drivers know these particular places like the back of their hands. They know exactly when to drag their seatbelts on and off as well.

 

Many motorcyclists, taxi and private car drivers know the crossings are there, but simply don't want to stop as they know they won't be punished.

I agree entirely with this post, but imagine you are a stranger in a town driving along a busy road, you are not going to see a crossing until you are almost on it, true you are driving quite slow because of other traffic and parked vehicles, so you are unlikely to be involved in an accident.

 

What is really required is the UK way of flashing lights and zig zag lines. Better still do away with crossings altogether and replace them with pedestrian operated lights.

Though I suppose this being Thailand it would be too much of an inconvenience to make sure the lights are always working.

What are the traffic police doing all day?

They should lose their job if they don't spend considerable time at the zebra crossings.

We all know that Thai riders and drivers follow the law if the alternative is to pay a fine.

Do your job! 

 

4 hours ago, VR333 said:

At Big C Future Park, there are security guards who will sometimes assist pedestrians across the marked pedestrian crossing out front. The guards have flags and glow sticks. Despite this, quite a few times I've seen cars almost hit people as they drive straight through the crossing despite there being guards escorting people across. I just don't get the mindset that makes drivers so uncaring about the safety of other people.

 

What might help would be installing speed humps before crossings, not the slightly raised, gentle flat type but the short, sharp ones you really feel if you go over them any faster than 5 kph. 

Your last paragraph is rubbish, what do speedhumps do for the emergency vehicles? Just think about this. I personally witnessed an ambulance with flashing lights have to come to an almost stop, then there are another two speedhumps further up the road, then the three on their way back to the hospital.

How much time is wasted there because of speedhumps when someone needs to get to the hospital in an emergency?