Popular Post Social Media Posted March 27 Popular Post Posted March 27 World Athletics has announced a groundbreaking move to implement genetic testing for all female track and field athletes, a decision that could significantly impact gender eligibility rules in Olympic sports. The announcement was made by World Athletics President Sebastian Coe during a council meeting at the World Indoor Championships in Bangalore, India. Under this new policy, female athletes will be required to undergo a one-time cotton swab or dried blood spot test before being allowed to compete in World Athletics events. Coe confirmed that the organization is in the process of identifying a provider to handle the testing program. The issue of gender eligibility has been at the center of Olympic debates in recent years, especially as more transgender athletes have competed in high-profile events and as increased scrutiny has been placed on female athletes with differences in sex development (DSD). The discussion intensified during the Paris Olympics when officials from a banned boxing organization alleged, without evidence, that two female competitors had male XY chromosomes. The International Olympic Committee (IOC) has so far refrained from implementing a universal policy on transgender and DSD athletes, opting instead to leave such decisions to individual sports federations. Additionally, the IOC has historically opposed genetic testing, arguing that it is dehumanizing. However, the controversy surrounding gender eligibility at the Paris Games has heightened pressure on the IOC to establish a definitive stance on the matter. Most candidates in the recent IOC presidential election, including Coe himself, have pushed for a clear policy on gender eligibility. Newly elected IOC President Kirsty Coventry has stated her intention to form a task force to explore potential guidelines regarding transgender and DSD athletes. Coe defended the necessity of World Athletics’ new testing plan, emphasizing that it is about protecting the integrity of female competition. "This we feel is a really important way of providing confidence and maintaining the absolute focus on the integrity of competition," he stated. "It’s pretty clear testing will be for athletes to compete in the female category. The process is very straightforward, frankly very clear, and it’s an important one." Coe has a history of making bold and sometimes controversial policy decisions within the Olympic community. He spearheaded World Athletics' initial ban on transgender athletes from female categories in 2023 and made headlines again by introducing a financial reward of $50,000 for Olympic gold medalists. The latest announcement is yet another move that challenges the IOC’s current stance on gender policies. The testing program is set to be implemented in time for the World Athletics Championships in Tokyo this September. As the sporting world reacts to this policy shift, the debate over gender eligibility in athletics is likely to continue, with World Athletics taking a definitive step toward reshaping the future of women’s sports. Based on a report by WP 2025-03-27 3 1 3 1
hotsun Posted March 27 Posted March 27 The winner of the gold medal for womens boxing in paris was a man, wasnt it? 2
youreavinalaff Posted March 27 Posted March 27 7 minutes ago, hotsun said: The winner of the gold medal for womens boxing in paris was a man, wasnt it? No. 2
josephbloggs Posted March 27 Posted March 27 9 minutes ago, hotsun said: The winner of the gold medal for womens boxing in paris was a man, wasnt it? No. So ignorant. 2 2
Popular Post JonnyF Posted March 27 Popular Post Posted March 27 17 minutes ago, hotsun said: The winner of the gold medal for womens boxing in paris was a man, wasnt it? Yep, a geezer beating up women. Liberals love it for some weird reason. 4 2 3
hotsun Posted March 27 Posted March 27 2 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Yep, a geezer beating up women. Liberals love it for some weird reason. Thought so. So many liars here 1
Popular Post proton Posted March 27 Popular Post Posted March 27 33 minutes ago, hotsun said: The winner of the gold medal for womens boxing in paris was a man, wasnt it? Without any doubt at all it was a man beating up women 3 1
youreavinalaff Posted March 27 Posted March 27 1 hour ago, hotsun said: Thought so. So many liars here Liars? No. Just the misinformed. There were no male competitors in the female boxing in the Olympics. The ignorant and misinformed may think so but science prevails, as always. 1
Popular Post josephbloggs Posted March 27 Popular Post Posted March 27 1 hour ago, JonnyF said: Yep, a geezer beating up women. Liberals love it for some weird reason. You have some odd fantasies you like to project on other people. She's a woman, biologically. Has never been anything other than a woman. The irony is that you right wingers say you are what you are born and cannot decide to change (see the Elon Musk transgender daughter thread) yet it's perfectly acceptable for you to tell a real biological woman that she's a man. The hypocrisy is incredible. 2 1
Popular Post JonnyF Posted March 27 Popular Post Posted March 27 Just now, josephbloggs said: She's a woman, biologically. Has never been anything other than a woman. A woman with meat and 2 veg that looks exactly like a bloke? https://www.livemint.com/sports/news/imane-khelif-declared-male-what-did-the-algerian-olympians-medical-report-reveal-born-with-testicles-no-uterus-more-11730784624681.html 1 1 1 1
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted March 27 Popular Post Posted March 27 3 minutes ago, JonnyF said: A woman with meat and 2 veg that looks exactly like a bloke? https://www.livemint.com/sports/news/imane-khelif-declared-male-what-did-the-algerian-olympians-medical-report-reveal-born-with-testicles-no-uterus-more-11730784624681.html I very much doubt she/he would pass the genetic testing that's just been brought in by Seb Coe although I don't think boxing is included in World Athletics 1 2
josephbloggs Posted March 27 Posted March 27 35 minutes ago, JonnyF said: A woman with meat and 2 veg that looks exactly like a bloke? https://www.livemint.com/sports/news/imane-khelif-declared-male-what-did-the-algerian-olympians-medical-report-reveal-born-with-testicles-no-uterus-more-11730784624681.html You link to an "article" that contains absolutely no evidence or verifiable claims. Nothing. In fact one of the so called authors of the "leaked report", Jacques Young, has said that his name was being used to spread false information and an anti-trans agenda. Just more right wing nonsense spouted by Musk and co and lapped up by the gullible without fact checking. Business as usual. 1 1
GanDoonToonPet Posted March 27 Posted March 27 2 hours ago, hotsun said: The winner of the gold medal for womens boxing in paris was a man, wasnt it? It's likely that 'they' have a condition called ' 5α-Reductase 2 deficiency' or '5ARD'. This is where someone has XY chromosomes but a faulty gene on the Y chromosome leads to incomplete development of external genitalia (micropenis) but they still develop, partially or completely, secondary sexual characteristics during puberty. 1
Bkk Brian Posted March 27 Posted March 27 5 minutes ago, josephbloggs said: You link to an "article" that contains absolutely no evidence or verifiable claims. Nothing. In fact one of the so called authors of the "leaked report", Jacques Young, has said that his name was being used to spread false information and an anti-trans agenda. Just more right wing nonsense spouted by Musk and co and lapped up by the gullible without fact checking. Business as usual. Nothing to do with Musk Imane Khelif who failed gender eligibility https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/13188715/olympics-2024-imane-khelif-who-failed-gender-eligibility-test-at-world-championships-wins-bout-after-opponent-quits 2
BangkokReady Posted March 27 Posted March 27 Thank God! Unfortunately, you cannot trust people to be honest about this topic.
WDSmart Posted March 27 Posted March 27 I agree with this approach, but as long as we only place people into two categories, male and female, we'll have problems sorting them out. Here is an example of what we're up against: "The Complexity of Sex Chromosomes Most people have either XX (typically associated with female development) or XY (typically associated with male development) sex chromosomes, but there's more to the story. *Variations in Sex Chromosomes* 1. *XYY*: Some individuals have an extra Y chromosome (XYY), which can lead to varying physical characteristics and developmental outcomes. 2. *XXY (Klinefelter syndrome)*: This condition occurs when a male has an extra X chromosome (XXY), which can affect physical development, fertility, and cognitive abilities. 3. *X0 (Turner syndrome)*: Females with Turner syndrome have only one X chromosome (X0), which can lead to short stature, heart defects, and other physical characteristics. 4. *Mosaicism*: Some individuals have a mixture of cells with different sex chromosomes (e.g., XX/XY), which can result in varying degrees of physical and developmental characteristics. *Intersex Conditions* Intersex conditions, formerly known as hermaphroditism, occur when an individual's reproductive or sexual anatomy doesn't fit typical male or female classifications. Examples include: 1. *Androgen insensitivity syndrome*: Individuals with this condition have XY chromosomes but are resistant to androgens (male hormones), leading to female physical characteristics. 2. *Congenital adrenal hyperplasia*: This condition affects the production of sex hormones, leading to varying physical characteristics. *Epigenetics and Hormonal Influences* Epigenetic factors, such as gene expression and hormonal influences, also play a crucial role in shaping an individual's biological sex and gender." (I have no source I can acknowledge for this information.)
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted March 27 Popular Post Posted March 27 Maybe I am old fashioned. I have many gay and lesbian friends, and most I know are really wonderful people. And I have met a number of ladyboys over the years, casually. Cannot really relate to that culture, but to each his own. It is a huge and highly accepted culture here. All good. It is the other ones I am having an increasingly hard time comprehending. And not only all of the myriad of designations, but the whole PC culture surrounding the designation, the insistence on us using the right terminology, and all the rest that goes along with the uber PC acceptance stuff. When I grew up if you liked guys you were either gay or bisexual. Now? The US is by far the most tolerant country in the world when it comes to the whole trans, non-binary, amorosexual, decide whatever you want today, if it fits mentality. No other country is as loose, driftless, and as silly as the US, except maybe the UK. Maybe. When a woman devotes her entire youth to a sport, and becomes one of the best in that particular area, and then a man comes along who decides to identify as a woman, and steals all the awards, all the victories, and all the accolades, something is not right in society. Something is broken, society has become morally bankrupt, and there has to be a pause, there has to be an interruption of the nonsense. No woman would survive more than 30 minutes in the NFL. Women will not participate in men's sports because they won't be able to handle the physical endurance required, nor the brutality, nor the talent level. A woman ranked #5 on the WTA could not beat a #758 man on the ATP as John McEnroe so truthfully stated. Hopefully all this craziness will pass and we'll return to some form of normalcy and indecency. 3 1
hotchilli Posted March 27 Posted March 27 8 hours ago, Social Media said: World Athletics has announced a groundbreaking move to implement genetic testing for all female track and field athletes, a decision that could significantly impact gender eligibility rules in Olympic sports. The announcement was made by World Athletics President Sebastian Coe during a council meeting at the World Indoor Championships in Bangalore, India. Excellent news, lets hope other governing bodies follow suit, not just track & Field
JonnyF Posted March 27 Posted March 27 56 minutes ago, WDSmart said: I agree with this approach, but as long as we only place people into two categories, male and female, we'll have problems sorting them out. It's not as complicated as you pretend. If you are not XX, you compete against the blokes. That's it. Simple. Maybe unfortunate for the % of 1% but that's life. We can't ruin women's sport for the fraction of a % with such rare conditions who also happen to be world class athletes. 1 1
WDSmart Posted March 27 Posted March 27 5 minutes ago, JonnyF said: 1 hour ago, WDSmart said: I agree with this approach, but as long as we only place people into two categories, male and female, we'll have problems sorting them out. It's not as complicated as you pretend. If you are not XX, you compete against the blokes. That's it. Simple. Maybe unfortunate for the % of 1% but that's life. We can't ruin women's sport for the fraction of a % with such rare conditions who also happen to be world class athletes. If that's what you think, then I assume you are suggesting there just be two categories in every sport: women (XX) and non-women. Right? (Oh, and special categories for age groupings, the blind, those without legs, etc...) And the last I saw, there are about 4% of the population that are not pure XX or XY.
digger70 Posted March 27 Posted March 27 World Athletics Introduces Gender Testing for Female Track Athletes Sounds fair ,they should do this for al competitive sports . Females compete in al lfemale sports . Males compete in all male sports. All pretty simple/easy and Fair.
parallelman Posted March 27 Posted March 27 2 hours ago, WDSmart said: I agree with this approach, but as long as we only place people into two categories, male and female, we'll have problems sorting them out. Here is an example of what we're up against: "The Complexity of Sex Chromosomes Most people have either XX (typically associated with female development) or XY (typically associated with male development) sex chromosomes, but there's more to the story. *Variations in Sex Chromosomes* 1. *XYY*: Some individuals have an extra Y chromosome (XYY), which can lead to varying physical characteristics and developmental outcomes. 2. *XXY (Klinefelter syndrome)*: This condition occurs when a male has an extra X chromosome (XXY), which can affect physical development, fertility, and cognitive abilities. 3. *X0 (Turner syndrome)*: Females with Turner syndrome have only one X chromosome (X0), which can lead to short stature, heart defects, and other physical characteristics. 4. *Mosaicism*: Some individuals have a mixture of cells with different sex chromosomes (e.g., XX/XY), which can result in varying degrees of physical and developmental characteristics. *Intersex Conditions* Intersex conditions, formerly known as hermaphroditism, occur when an individual's reproductive or sexual anatomy doesn't fit typical male or female classifications. Examples include: 1. *Androgen insensitivity syndrome*: Individuals with this condition have XY chromosomes but are resistant to androgens (male hormones), leading to female physical characteristics. 2. *Congenital adrenal hyperplasia*: This condition affects the production of sex hormones, leading to varying physical characteristics. *Epigenetics and Hormonal Influences* Epigenetic factors, such as gene expression and hormonal influences, also play a crucial role in shaping an individual's biological sex and gender." (I have no source I can acknowledge for this information.) Those with Trisomy and other unusual chromosome structure suffer disorders which are either easily diagnosed or visually appraent (Down & Edward syndrome etc.) and they aren't likely to enter mainstream sports. What you are listing is fine if we are disussing the populace in general but the OP is specifically about World Sport. 1
Yagoda Posted March 27 Posted March 27 1 hour ago, JonnyF said: It's not as complicated as you pretend. If you are not XX, you compete against the blokes. That's it. Simple. Maybe unfortunate for the % of 1% but that's life. We can't ruin women's sport for the fraction of a % with such rare conditions who also happen to be world class athletes. Good sportsmen would never compete where they have an unfair advantage
josephbloggs Posted March 27 Posted March 27 4 hours ago, spidermike007 said: When a woman devotes her entire youth to a sport, and becomes one of the best in that particular area, and then a man comes along who decides to identify as a woman, and steals all the awards, all the victories, and all the accolades, something is not right in society. Something is broken, society has become morally bankrupt, and there has to be a pause, there has to be an interruption of the nonsense. Yeah, but that's not what happened is it.
Oliver Holzerfilled Posted March 27 Posted March 27 "World Athletics has announced a groundbreaking move to implement genetic testing for all female track and field athletes" The Aseannow "It hardly ever happens anyway so what's the big deal" brigade are going to be confused and upset by this latest unnecessary move by World Athletics. Please keep them in your thoughts. Interestingly enough, the thing that "hardly ever happens anyway" just happened again, with a trans female crushing the competition. https://www.newsweek.com/transgender-high-school-track-star-wins-triple-8-feet-2038919
Tug Posted March 27 Posted March 27 13 hours ago, JonnyF said: Yep, a geezer beating up women. Liberals love it for some weird reason. I’m nearby volunteering YOU to go give her the tryed and true patented test of grab her by the pus$ey test let us know how it turns out ok 👍 1
frank83628 Posted March 27 Posted March 27 14 hours ago, Tug said: Fine by me! If the headline read 'trump demands testing.....' I don't think you'd be quite so calm 1 1
MalcolmB Posted March 27 Posted March 27 6 hours ago, JonnyF said: Maybe unfortunate for the % of 1% but that's life. We can't ruin women's sport They actually improve it,it is very low standard compared with men’s sports.
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