Koh Tao murder probe 85% complete: Panya

[heyexile]

This article is pathetic. Yesterday the police claim its media tips and social networking that is hindering their investigation. Now they say its helped them.

They claim to be looking for people during 2-4am yet the coroner said no time of death could be made since they froze the bodies prior to the autopsy.

And how in the heck can someone make a vow that no one would be killed? Especially since the killer/s are still roaming free?

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Yes. No. Maybe. You should ask again. Do not ask again. No. Definitely Maybe. Yes. How dare you! No. Yes. Ok. Maybe. Definitely not maybe, definitely maybe.

"Never! Never? No never! What never? Almost never."

[boomerangutang]

A poster whose wife comes from the Island ,says all the Island people know who did it .It follows that the Police must know. Whats stopping them ,making an arrest ?

Well that's pretty obvious, is it not?

MONEY

...and concerns (by locals who are too afraid to speak up) about getting their heads bashed in or house burned down.

Whats stopping them ,making an arrest?

Answer: they don't want to implicate anyone from a powerful island family, and/or they want to give the bad guys enough time to get lost. Edited September 27, 2014 by boomerangutang

[joebrown]

I hope the RTP prove me wrong, and I'll soon have to eat 'humble pie', but IMO this investigation is 85% down the road to nowhere!

[PMZ]

This case, being so brutal and horrific, has highlighted more than any other of recent times, the negligence, immaturity and (possibly) corruption that exists in the Thai Police Force. Add to that a complete inability to properly manage the PR / media around cases, where too much is said, by too many, with too much conflicting evidence, views and progress, that it becomes an embarrassing recipe for disaster.

[laobali]

"We do not have a warrant to arrest anyone yet, but the evidence we have points to someone who was in the area between 2am and 5am that morning."

NO SH1T SHERLOCK ................ Talk about stating the bleedin obvious

They have narrowed it down from midnight to 8 am. Surely deserves some credit!

[FangFerang]

So now it is all clear. We have 85% confusion compounded by tourists and foreigners. We are now 100% sure it is not a crime committed by Thais, Burmese or farang. We are 100% sure that the Thai man who refused to give DNA samples was not the criminal, and we have DNA evidence now to prove he never even lived there until yesterday. And we have 15% classified information to prove the other 85%. But, it involves lese majeste, so that 15% of classified information can never be revealed, and that evidence can never get bail.

Partly cloudy, partly sunny...who can say?

[daveAustin]

I assume the 600m rule includes Thai people and, gawd forbid, the police?!

They are doing everything they can to not get this solved, to ultimately string it out so people forget and tourism can return to normal for all that juicy revenue to keep rolling in, but all the while making themselves look a complete and utter bunch of ******* imbeciles.

[terminatorchiangmai]

whats next ?

We know who did it , better turn your self in before we come get you ?

[joecoolfrog]

I hope that the reason there are no murders this high season , is that everybody stays away from the Island !

[daveAustin]

Cases like this (random sex related crime with no motive) are always difficult to solve no matter what country they occur in. Many of the comments on this case are unjustified. The Thai police are clearly putting massive resources into solving it, and the PM himself has ordered action to improve security on the island and others in the area. If the perpertrators came ashore by boat will be like looking for a needle in a haystack. At present the police and the government appear to be doing all they can.

Put your head back in the sand, son.

[Iumentum]

This is turning into a ******g circus.

This is?? This has been a circus from day one. This is the first time where i start to be hopeful that they are actually on to something. However, i am still suspicious.......

When the selfappointed Mr know-it-all "threadmaster" is hopeful, then the rest of us can relax!!

If i would appear to know it all, then why would i be suspicious? You have an idea what the meaning of suspicious is?

At least i am here to debate the case, not here just to be bickering and find someone to make personal attacks on to make myself feel better..... unlike you!

Edited September 27, 2014 by Iumentum

[trainman34014]

More Bullshit and Bluster to cover up the fact that they either know who did it but they are 'untouchable', or they just don't have a frigging clue who did it at all.

[Rimbuman]

I've got a bit lost in all the misreporting . . . Did the "influential family" ever actually give DNA samples? Or was the fact that they "said" the son was in Bangkok (allegedly) at the time reason enough NOT to bother with it?

Yeahhh, and how about these other islanders who were excluded from the overall DNA sampling, this is rotten to the core and is going to backfire.

Thailand you are with your pants down and the world is watching.

The world is watching?, tourists have short memories, in two weeks it will be,''Pack your swimsuits kids we're off to Koh Tao''

Oh is that so? The British girl Madeleine McCann on holiday in Portugal that got missing already so many years ago is still making headlines once and a while.

Now maybe these horrendous rape/killings might not be all that damaging by itself but it will be a serious add on to long list of reasons and irregularities that paints the smudged image and reputation of Thailand.

Sure there are always people who don't care or are not aware and come anyway, can't argue with that.

[khunpa]

This article is pathetic. Yesterday the police claim its media tips and social networking that is hindering their investigation. Now they say its helped them.

They claim to be looking for people during 2-4am yet the coroner said no time of death could be made since they froze the bodies prior to the autopsy.

And how in the heck can someone make a vow that no one would be killed? Especially since the killer/s are still roaming free?

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You are asking too many questions my friend... too many questions :-)

[jimbeam1]

Cases like this (random sex related crime with no motive) are always difficult to solve no matter what country they occur in. Many of the comments on this case are unjustified. The Thai police are clearly putting massive resources into solving it, and the PM himself has ordered action to improve security on the island and others in the area. If the perpertrators came ashore by boat will be like looking for a needle in a haystack. At present the police and the government appear to be doing all they can.

Had they done more when they should have it might now be more like looking for a needle in a pin cushion instead of an haystack

jb1

[khunpa]

Are we waiting for the remaining 15% of the scapegoats bruises to heal?

[Number 3]

Everyone is safe in December it has been decreed that no murders will take place that month ! Can I ask what is to happen during the other eleven months , is that a free for all !! Now I know why all the adverts say " Amazing Thailand " !!

Sounds like instead or one night a year, as in the movie the purge it's 11 months a year free for all.

December - no problem.

[Rimbuman]

So now it is all clear. We have 85% confusion compounded by tourists and foreigners. We are now 100% sure it is not a crime committed by Thais, Burmese or farang. We are 100% sure that the Thai man who refused to give DNA samples was not the criminal, and we have DNA evidence now to prove he never even lived there until yesterday. And we have 15% classified information to prove the other 85%. But, it involves lese majeste, so that 15% of classified information can never be revealed, and that evidence can never get bail.

Partly cloudy, partly sunny...who can say?

Excellent. sums it all up. Great post.

[mancub]

They know the guilty parties, but they refuse to arrest and convict them because of the whole can of worms that it will open, and the implications it will have for themselves. Failed scapegoats. cover ups and false statements. Back-tracking and Red herrings, denials and smokescreens. And so it goes until everyone simply gets tired of all the bullshit and moves on. All except those personally affected, for whom the exasperation and despair is utterly heart-breaking.

[lostinisaan]

Everybody who was in a 600-metre radius of the murder scene between 2am and 4am on September 15 is a suspect, said Pol Lt-General Panya Mamen, chief of the Police Region 8 command. The resort island comes under his jurisdiction.

Gotta be kidding. 600 meters.

[spidermike007]

No need to go on and on about how this investigation is nearly complete. Just bring in the headman's son, and arrest him, try him, and convict him. Use the military police, and the military courts if required. If you are serious, do your job. Jawboning will not convince anyone, at this point. Nearly the entire world knows who the perpetrator was. Video footage, plus eyewitness accounts nearly prove that. So, just ignore the rich mans money, and power, and do the right thing. Both the police and the army have an obligation to this nation, to insure this case is concluded in a fair and proper manner. No need to arrest a patsy, when you know who committed the crime.

[spidermike007]

Cases like this (random sex related crime with no motive) are always difficult to solve no matter what country they occur in. Many of the comments on this case are unjustified. The Thai police are clearly putting massive resources into solving it, and the PM himself has ordered action to improve security on the island and others in the area. If the perpertrators came ashore by boat will be like looking for a needle in a haystack. At present the police and the government appear to be doing all they can.

Put your head back in the sand, son.

Exactly. Talk about suffering from massive delusion. Is he a PR man for the police? What do you think his retainer was?

[khunpa]

This article is pathetic. Yesterday the police claim its media tips and social networking that is hindering their investigation. Now they say its helped them.

They claim to be looking for people during 2-4am yet the coroner said no time of death could be made since they froze the bodies prior to the autopsy.

And how in the heck can someone make a vow that no one would be killed? Especially since the killer/s are still roaming free?

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Police blame social media, yet they post photos on facebook showing the entire crime scene? So how can they question a suspect knowing thousands know exactly how the crime scene looked? Those police need to be fired. I don't put that down to police having a 'cunning plan' to derail the investigation. It's just plain stupidity.

Don't worry, you can be sure the will instruct the "killers" in how they did the crime.

[KhunBoy]

Lets make this into a 3 stooges movie.The world is not stupid.

[khunpa]

Can't wait to see what percentage we are at tomorrow.

Until now has been 100%, then down to 50% and now up to 85%... The saga continues... Could we be back at 100% tomorrow, with still no arrests?

Edited September 27, 2014 by khunpa

[mrtoad]

I have no doubt that they know who did what and what happened, but they have no intention of actually arresting and charging the real perps, as the money and connections will be out in the open. Cover up from the very beginning, now they just need to find some scapegoats.

If the govt are really serious, then Panya should be removed and all of the other BIB on Kao Tao moved off the island, suspended and then investigated. Unusual wealth will be a good indicator.

[nev]

How does he know it's 85 percent complete and not 84 or 86? Did he just pick a number out of the air? These guys are unbelievable.

It's a lucky number

oh come on lads it is all to do with the pay off just 15% of the money to be paid.

[lucaswallachia]

I've got a bit lost in all the misreporting . . . Did the "influential family" ever actually give DNA samples? Or was the fact that they "said" the son was in Bangkok (allegedly) at the time reason enough NOT to bother with it?

Yeahhh, and how about these other islanders who were excluded from the overall DNA sampling, this is rotten to the core and is going to backfire.

Thailand you are with your pants down and the world is watching.

The world is watching?, tourists have short memories, in two weeks it will be,''Pack your swimsuits kids we're off to Koh Tao''

Oh is that so? The British girl Madeleine McCann on holiday in Portugal that got missing already so many years ago is still making headlines once and a while.

Now maybe these horrendous rape/killings might not be all that damaging by itself but it will be a serious add on to long list of reasons and irregularities that paints the smudged image and reputation of Thailand.

Sure there are always people who don't care or are not aware and come anyway, can't argue with that.

Im pretty sure the reason the McCann case has got so much media coverage is because the McCanns themselves were paying media organisations for coverage.

[soalbundy]

I hope that the reason there are no murders this high season , is that everybody stays away from the Island !

The EU could give out another warning of the dangers of going to Thailand but they wont, the UK embassy could start asking embarrassing questions but they wont, the UK press could stay on this until it's solved but they wont, potential tourists could remember this case before coming here but they wont, The BIB know this, they are way ahead of us,they've seen it all before,done it all before, same procedure as last year.

[metisdead]

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