Driveway

[Hutch68]

Hi, starting on a new driveway soon the wife wants concrete I want crushed stone. Any advice on either thanks.

[observer90210]

I don't have answers, but maybe here are the questions to be asked?

 

Which of the two will heat up more in summer?

 

Which of the two would be easier to clean, say with a karcher or similar?

 

Which of the two would be more slippery when it rains?

 

...and when you get the answers, be sure to share it here please...

[Hutch68]

That's the kind of questions I want answering and should have tried harder with the topic but I'm very tired, been digging all day. Thanks.

[Hutch68]

Will crushed stone just sink into the ground?

[pgrahmm]

How long - 7 meters or 70 meters? Most country places with long driveways have good sized crushed rock/dirt combo built up driveways usually leading up to a concrete pad, covered garage....

Are you on high ground or a low lying area....Flat?

[kannot]

concrete, almost  maintenance  free.................u  know  it  makes  sense

[Hutch68]

That's what I'm thinking but we have concrete walkways around the house and the algie that grows is a pain in the ass in fact I'm off into town tomorrow to buy a jetwash to blast it all off. The car port is already there, it's not too big a space probably 300 square m.

Edited July 5, 2017 by Hutch68

[Hutch68]

2 minutes ago, kannot said:

concrete, almost  maintenance  free.................u  know  it  makes  sense

Ive already seen that and you know it.... once again very nice job.

[Hutch68]

24 minutes ago, pgrahmm said:

How long - 7 meters or 70 meters? Most country places with long driveways have good sized crushed rock/dirt combo built up driveways usually leading up to a concrete pad, covered garage....

Are you on high ground or a low lying area....Flat?

 In between to be honest no chance of flooding and just on a slight slope.

[Andrew Dwyer]

Let me save you some time here:

You are gonna make it in crushed stone because you are " the man of the house " " you wear the pants " and it's what you want. !!

So you will do it in crushed stone, then it starts :

 

1) I don't like it !

2) The stones are too big I can't walk on it properly !

3) The stones are too small, they get stuck in the scooter tyres !

4) When it hasn't rained for a couple of days its too dusty.

5) It's ruining the heels of my shoes !

6) Can't wash the dog crap off with the hosepipe, it goes everywhere !!

etc etc etc

 

So in a fit of rage you will rip half of the stones out and order the concrete, but because you are all miffed you will not water it and it'll be all cracked and ugly !!

 

Or you could just go with the concrete and save yourself a lot of stress and sleepless nights on the sofa !!

 

[kannot]

6 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Let me save you some time here:

You are gonna make it in crushed stone because you are " the man of the house " " you wear the pants " and it's what you want. !!

So you will do it in crushed stone, then it starts :

 

1) I don't like it !

2) The stones are too big I can't walk on it properly !

3) The stones are too small, they get stuck in the scooter tyres !

4) When it hasn't rained for a couple of days its too dusty.

5) It's ruining the heels of my shoes !

6) Can't wash the dog crap off with the hosepipe, it goes everywhere !!

etc etc etc

 

So in a fit of rage you will rip half of the stones out and order the concrete, but because you are all miffed you will not water it and it'll be all cracked and ugly !!

 

Or you could just go with the concrete and save yourself a lot of stress and sleepless nights on the sofa !!

 

instead  get polished  concrete like  mine.....no  cracks

Edited July 5, 2017 by kannot

[bbi1]

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Hi, starting on a new driveway soon the wife wants concrete I want crushed stone. Any advice on either thanks.

Marriage is all about compromise. You need to get the mix of crushed stone with concrete. Problem solved.

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[Hutch68]

So does anyone have a crushed stone driveway? Will it just eventually sink away into the ground? All advice much appreciated, just days away from the final decision.

Edited July 5, 2017 by Hutch68

[Hutch68]

I've been up all night thinking about this bloody driveway, it's doing my nut in.....I'm of to buy the jetwash then I'm going back to bed!

[jeab1980]

We did crushed stone leading up the slight slope then Concrete to car port and house. Even though it was only a slight slope heavy rain managed to move the stone i was constantly having to re grade the top layer of stone it removed down the slope.

 Took it out in march and had it concreted with reinforcing wire embeded best move ive made. With tons of crushed stone to make some lovley border low maintenance flower beds 

[Crossy]

1 hour ago, Hutch68 said:

So does anyone have a crushed stone driveway? Will it just eventually sink away into the ground? All advice much appreciated, just days away from the final decision.

 

Yes we do. It fits nicely into our "informal" garden (ok jungle) with its rustic, grass up the middle, look.

 

Maintenance consists of bunging a load of fresh rocks down every few years on the bits that have sunk.

 

I admit to zero preparation when it was laid. Dump the rocks, barrow and rake them level (ish), drive the truck up and down a few times, get a beer. Repeat after a few months, eventually it goes rock hard and stops sinking.

 

Not looking its best in this photo but it's cheap and if you have an informal garden just fine.

 

[Hutch68]

1 hour ago, Crossy said:

 

Yes we do. It fits nicely into our "informal" garden (ok jungle) with its rustic, grass up the middle, look.

 

Maintenance consists of bunging a load of fresh rocks down every few years on the bits that have sunk.

 

I admit to zero preparation when it was laid. Dump the rocks, barrow and rake them level (ish), drive the truck up and down a few times, get a beer. Repeat after a few months, eventually it goes rock hard and stops sinking.

 

Not looking its best in this photo but it's cheap and if you have an informal garden just fine.

 

That will ding dang do for me.

[Hutch68]

Couldn't decide on the jetwash.

[sfokevin]

My vote goes for crushed stone...

 

[kwonitoy]

2 hours ago, Hutch68 said:

So does anyone have a crushed stone driveway? Will it just eventually sink away into the ground? All advice much appreciated, just days away from the final decision.

I did my drive at the farm with crushed stone, only way to go IMHO

It will settle/pack down as you drive on it and the rain compacts it, just order a couple more loads and spread it

After a couple of times of doing this it will form a great surface, breaks up the run off from the rain rather than turning it into a torrent as the runoff from concrete does.

Also much cheaper and isn't as big a heat absorber like a big slab is

[Anythingleft?]

Doing mine soon, top portion will be concrete base and pavers for the cars but the lower 3/4's will be stoned. Mainly due to allowing rain to disperse through the rock and the cost as it's a pretty big area. Not a big fan of large concreted areas as I don't find it very nice looking, though it would depend on the type of house and surroundings

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[MarcIssan]

Andrew, in looking at your pics I'm interested in your front wall.  Did you use precast concrete panels?  Either way, tell me about the fence and the cost.  I have about 400 meters of fence to figure out. 

 

Marc

 

[Hutch68]

43 minutes ago, MarcIssan said:

Andrew, in looking at your pics I'm interested in your front wall.  Did you use precast concrete panels?  Either way, tell me about the fence and the cost.  I have about 400 meters of fence to figure out. 

 

Marc that's kannot's wall, there's a thread going where he explains everything. I don't know how to link a thread up but think the thread is building a perimeter fence.

 

 

[Hutch68]

1 hour ago, sfokevin said:

My vote goes for crushed stone...

 

That's the kind of thing I want.... Looks great.

[VocalNeal]

As a concrete driveway will need some form of aggregate base. Go with crushed stone initially and they if no one likes it go concrete.

 

Your wife wants concrete because some other woman has it!

[Andrew Dwyer]

Despite my earlier post I would go for the crushed stone, sfokevin's photo looks great.

[Crossy]

Sfokevin's drive looks great, more of a formal gravel drive than our rustic effect.

 

[kamalabob2]

Geo Textile is worth consideration if you wish to prevent weeds coming through crushed stone. Geo Textile is readily available and is standard 3 meters wide in a roll 100 meters long. Some sellers will sell it by the square meter, other sellers only by the full roll in Isaan. 

[kannot]

12 hours ago, Hutch68 said:

So does anyone have a crushed stone driveway? Will it just eventually sink away into the ground? All advice much appreciated, just days away from the final decision.

I had it for 3  years but it was always temporary until all the other work was done.

My land is mainly stone anyway underneath so no sinking but depends on your subsoil etc.

The stone is CHEAP ,concrete aint.

The stone will move around where wheels go over it regularly and if your  not gentle on the clutch you can get wheelspin, I have a  motorbike also and had to be really careful on it.

[kannot]

7 hours ago, kamalabob2 said:

Geo Textile is worth consideration if you wish to prevent weeds coming through crushed stone. Geo Textile is readily available and is standard 3 meters wide in a roll 100 meters long. Some sellers will sell it by the square meter, other sellers only by the full roll in Isaan. 

Ive  found it may stop some weeds under the textile but grass seeds would still sprout in the gravel between gravel and textile...............although I guess easy to pull out anyway.