Best pick-up to buy for budget up to 680.000 Baht

[wolf81]

I am considering to buy a pick-up soon. My budget is about 680.000 Baht. I wonder what would be a good choice in this price segment? I would prefer a 4-doors pick-up. Automatic transmission would be nice to have, but not essential. Low maintenance costs and low yearly costs (insurance, taxes, etc…) are of interest to me as well.

 

My GF would prefer a more expensive car (up to 1.000.000 Baht), but I am not sure if that would really be a good choice for us. I think her preference has more to do with "face" and status, not really with rational thoughts. 

I imagine we will just sometimes go on a small day trip and it'll be nice if we and our daughter have a safe car for travel. So another nice feature might be some conveniences for travel. And it'll be nice if there are nice seats in front and back (some backseats in pick-ups are horrible in my experience).

 

I found the Toyota Hilux Revo has a nice 4-doors type for 680.000 Baht, so that's what I am currently thinking about. But perhaps some more knowledgable people have some other good tips?

Edited August 2, 2018 by wolf81

[pgrahmm]

Can't go wrong here with Toyota.....

 

Strong vehicle with a good service network & add on accessories + they hold their value....

 

Proven performer - just look around....Thai's vote with their money......

[sammieuk1]

As an image forms from what you wrote about your GF a 20 year old 50,000bt pick up is my recommendation?  

[mogandave]

Toyota is fine, but best value (particularly service) is the Isuzu.

That said, if you’re serious about the girl, buy something she likes.

[Kwasaki]

11 hours ago, pgrahmm said:

+ they hold their value....

Yes they do until you try to sell if. ?

[Henryford]

I can't understand why people want pick ups. Half the car is the loading bay which is never used (unless you are in business) and the cabin is small and cramped. For that money you could get a top of the range Mazda 2.

Edited August 4, 2018 by Henryford

[Ks45672]

14 minutes ago, Henryford said:

I can't understand why people want pick ups. Half the car is the loading bay which is never used (unless you are in business) and the cabin is small and cramped. For that money you could get a top of the range Mazda 2.

I'd rather be in a 2+ tonne pickup when some idiot crashes into me than a small family car

 

Also has more road presence from other similar sized vehicles than a Honda jazz etc

[maximillian]

31 minutes ago, Henryford said:

I can't understand why people want pick ups. Half the car is the loading bay which is never used (unless you are in business) and the cabin is small and cramped. For that money you could get a top of the range Mazda 2.

 

Sometimes I'm a passenger in my friend's new Mazda 2.

Honestly, I do prefer my old Mazda BT 50 over that sedan.

Made good use of the loading bay hundreds of times.

The loading bay is used much more often than the passenger seats in the back.

And no, I'm not a farmer, nor a businessman.

[Snow Leopard]

For me a small cheap car to get around Bangkok. Easy to negotiate the traffic and park. Basically a shopping trolley.

I like a Pick Up for carrying stuff to the house if needed and also for long road journeys. Way more power and way more comfortable on my old bones.

I kind of like driving and exploring the country. So a Pick Up for this suits us.


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[Lannig]

I rent usually very new Revos and D-Maxes every time I come to Thailand. They look pretty much equivalent to me except for the fuel consumption which is way higher on the Revo. Something to consider in times of rising fuel prices.

[Bung]

Get a low mileage top of the range 2nd hand Toyota or Isuzu pickup for that money would be my suggestion. Let someone else take the initial depreciation hit. 

[KhunBENQ]

Even though you seem to be determined to a pickup, rethink.

 

A safe car for your GF and daughter?

Buy a modern limousine with up-to-date active and passive security features.

Easy to handle and less bulky, modern suspension, no bumpy leaf springs.

 

Don't "fall for the pickups are sturdy/safe due to their mass" myth.

Just look at the daily carnage.

Light weight build, 1.5 tons with heavy motor, axles, wheels etc.

But the chassis does nothing for safety.

Automatic is absolutely essential.

Stick and clutch in the usual pileups and jams. No thanks.

You might have to lift your budget a bit (750k) for that but sure not to a million Baht.

 

Although I wouldn't care about tax: a four door pickup is the highest in tax.

It is taxed by displacement like a limousine.

For tax they are not pickups (which are taxed by empty weight).

But we are talking of sums not more than about 4000 Baht/year for a big pickup.

 

Most boring everyman's car but never fail is a Toyota Vios.

If that is not good enough for your GF then you know that it is "about face".

 

Edited August 4, 2018 by KhunBENQ

[KhunBENQ]

2 hours ago, Snow Leopard said:

For me a small cheap car to get around Bangkok. Easy to negotiate the traffic and park. Basically a shopping trolley.

I like a Pick Up for carrying stuff to the house if needed and also for long road journeys. Way more power and way more comfortable on my old bones.

I kind of like driving and exploring the country. So a Pick Up for this suits us.


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Two cars better than one

Of course the decision for pickup vs. limousine depends on your expected usage, location, distances.

Manual pickup in Bangkok

[mogandave]

I agree, in Bangkok a auto is well worth the money...

[Snow Leopard]

3 hours ago, KhunBENQ said:

Two cars better than one

Of course the decision for pickup vs. limousine depends on your expected usage, location, distances.

Manual pickup in Bangkok

Whats the best service centre in Issan for Maybach? Funny made me smile ? LOL. 

[Jitar]

12 hours ago, KhunBENQ said:

Even though you seem to be determined to a pickup, rethink.

 

A safe car for your GF and daughter?

Buy a modern limousine with up-to-date active and passive security features.

Easy to handle and less bulky, modern suspension, no bumpy leaf springs.

 

Don't "fall for the pickups are sturdy/safe due to their mass" myth.

Just look at the daily carnage.

Light weight build, 1.5 tons with heavy motor, axles, wheels etc.

But the chassis does nothing for safety.

Automatic is absolutely essential.

Stick and clutch in the usual pileups and jams. No thanks.

You might have to lift your budget a bit (750k) for that but sure not to a million Baht.

 

Although I wouldn't care about tax: a four door pickup is the highest in tax.

It is taxed by displacement like a limousine.

For tax they are not pickups (which are taxed by empty weight).

But we are talking of sums not more than about 4000 Baht/year for a big pickup.

 

Most boring everyman's car but never fail is a Toyota Vios.

If that is not good enough for your GF then you know that it is "about face".

 

Crash test ratings of current pickups are as good as cars.

In the real world,  a larger vehicle with a 5 * rating is safer than a smaller vehicle with a 5 * rating.

In Thailand, only the top model cars and pickup get all the safety features.  For new pickups that means +1M Baht.  That is still way cheaper than a top model sedan with comparable space like an Accord or Camry.

A used Ranger Wildtrack or similar would probably be closer to 680k.

The OP does not mention location but one reason not to buy a pickup would be BKK parking / Soi's.  Otherwise they are a good alternative for a spacious vehicle in LOS. 

 

Edited August 5, 2018 by Jitar

[vinegarbase]

Nissan Navajo King Cab. 635,000 baht.

[Ks45672]

2 hours ago, Jitar said:

Crash test ratings of current pickups are as good as cars.

In the real world,  a larger vehicle with a 5 * rating is safer than a smaller vehicle with a 5 * rating.

In Thailand, only the top model cars and pickup get all the safety features.  For new pickups that means +1M Baht.  That is still way cheaper than a top model sedan with comparable space like an Accord or Camry.

A used Ranger Wildtrack or similar would probably be closer to 680k.

The OP does not mention location but one reason not to buy a pickup would be BKK parking / Soi's.  Otherwise they are a good alternative for a spacious vehicle in LOS. 

 

The laws of physics cannot be argued with 

Big transfers more force to small in a collision 

Big is more visible to other motorists etc

Big wheels fare better in potholes and floods and the extra clearance is never a bad idea on thai "roads" 

[mogandave]

“While bigger is not necessarily better, bigger is by definition more.”

Wheel size, engine size, seat size, diesel rather than gas...

As previously stated, unless you’re driving and parking in BKK daily, a pickup makes a lot of sense..

[pgrahmm]

25 minutes ago, mogandave said:

“While bigger is not necessarily better, bigger is by definition more.”

Wheel size, engine size, seat size, diesel rather than gas...

As previously stated, unless you’re driving and parking in BKK daily, a pickup makes a lot of sense..

The vehicle with the most lug nuts wins in a collision.....

Little sedans are handy but up against a full sized truck they get run over....

[thaiguzzi]

18 hours ago, Henryford said:

I can't understand why people want pick ups. Half the car is the loading bay which is never used (unless you are in business) and the cabin is small and cramped. For that money you could get a top of the range Mazda 2.

You don't live out here in the sticks then where the roads are in their worst pot holed condition in years. A Mazda 2 would be destroyed in a year as a daily driver around here.

Around here you need big wheels with big tyres and strong suspension to survive.

A mate of mine bought his missus a Toyota Yaris a few years ago - lasted 3 years before everything was shot underneath. They now have His & Hers pick up trucks...….

[transam]

18 hours ago, Henryford said:

I can't understand why people want pick ups. Half the car is the loading bay which is never used (unless you are in business) and the cabin is small and cramped. For that money you could get a top of the range Mazda 2.

A 4 door pickup is cramped...?   ?

[thaiguzzi]

16 hours ago, Bung said:

Get a low mileage top of the range 2nd hand Toyota or Isuzu pickup for that money would be my suggestion. Let someone else take the initial depreciation hit. 

+1. Concur.

Went into the big city last week with the missus & 2 of her girlfriends shopping for a S/H truck for one of them. Me being the designated tyre kicker & haggler - in - charge, all expenses paid.

There's some nice deals to be had, 100-150k off RRP for a 10-12 month old truck. Saw a 10 month old top of the range pimped out Ranger cab for 580k, ditto a Navarra Black Edition cab with a bunch of bling added for 560k. Both of these could be haggled 20-30k down for cash. That's a 100k saving to the OP on what he wants to spend, spend it on a nice holiday and a new moped.

[Denim]

 Low maintenance costs and low yearly costs (insurance, taxes, etc…) are of interest to me as well.

 

A friend just bought a top end Toyota Pick Up. I think it was a top end Revo with some nice big wheels. He said a single tyre cost 10,000 , which is a lot if low maintenance is an issue. ( looked a bit bigger than standard to me )

 

Compare that to around a set of 4 tyres on a typical saloon which would cost around 8000 for all four.

 

 

[Ks45672]

4 minutes ago, thaiguzzi said:

You don't live out here in the sticks then where the roads are in their worst pot holed condition in years. A Mazda 2 would be destroyed in a year as a daily driver around here.

Around here you need big wheels with big tyres and strong suspension to survive.

A mate of mine bought his missus a Toyota Yaris a few years ago - lasted 3 years before everything was shot underneath. They now have His & Hers pick up trucks...….

And loading bay is handy to throw in shopping or bikes, furnishings  or anything bulky that needs moving

 

Great for makro crates too

 

 

[transam]

9 minutes ago, Denim said:

 Low maintenance costs and low yearly costs (insurance, taxes, etc…) are of interest to me as well.

 

A friend just bought a top end Toyota Pick Up. I think it was a top end Revo with some nice big wheels. He said a single tyre cost 10,000 , which is a lot if low maintenance is an issue. ( looked a bit bigger than standard to me )

 

Compare that to around a set of 4 tyres on a typical saloon which would cost around 8000 for all four.

 

 

If the ride has aftermarket wheel/tyre setup then you pay....

 

Just bought 265/70x16 BFGoodrich Advantage SUV tyre for 4750 bht..It is a BIG tyre..

 

A typical saloon does not have BIG tyres so the cost is lower..

[jenny2017]

18 hours ago, Ks45672 said:

I'd rather be in a 2+ tonne pickup when some idiot crashes into me than a small family car

 

Also has more road presence from other similar sized vehicles than a Honda jazz etc

I also prefer a pick up for the same reason. My front and rear bumpers, made of real steel, are an additional crash zone. What about the new Triton? https://www.mitsubishi-motors.co.th/en/

Edited August 5, 2018 by jenny2017

[ELVIS123456]

1 hour ago, Ks45672 said:

The laws of physics cannot be argued with 

Big transfers more force to small in a collision 

Big is more visible to other motorists etc

Big wheels fare better in potholes and floods and the extra clearance is never a bad idea on thai "roads" 

But Pickups are Trucks. They dont 'give' in a front on collision, like a passenger car is designed to do, and they dont handle well.

 

Hit a tree/wall?  Better off in a top end large car than a Pickup - Trucks dont give and they take all the impact - tend to have cheap airbags etc.

Front on with another vehicle?  Better off in a pick up - especially if you hit a car because the car will 'absorb' much of the impact.

Roll over? Better off in a large passenger car - Truck roofs/sides are not designed to take much impact and most have little/no inside rollover safety (bags etc).

Side on collision?  Better off in a large passenger car - Trucks have very little side-on protection.

 

Best solution?  Buy a large Mercedes - get a used one if you cant afford new (find a well maintained one though ?). 

 

Second best solution (cheaper)?  Get a Pickup that has lots of 'safety extras'.

https://www.trucks.com/2017/03/15/pickup-trucks-struggle-safety-ratings/

 

The road safety issue with pickups in Thailand is that many Thais drive Pickups far too fast and dangerously (no comment why).

Pickups lose control very easily when brakes applied too quickly or wheel turned too fast or when they corner too fast or in the wet.

 

[Ks45672]

2 minutes ago, jenny2017 said:

I also prefer a pick up for the same reason. My front and rear bumpers, made of real steel, are an additional crash zone. 

Also, waiting in the "fast lane" to make a uturn, a truck is highly visible and more people will  think twice and slow down vs a city size super mini which ime they have not as much respect for

 

The ease of parking in bkk  or limited spaces is the single drawback but even my Soi in centre of bkk can flood occasionally and in a Ford ka or a fiesta you might get wet feet lol

[seajae]

we recently bought a new nissan pickup 4 door, brilliant to drive and very comfortable on long runs. Wife has a toyota pick up king cab for work and its no where near as good to drive or for comfort, we had a new vios before the new nissan, was  a great little car to drive for comfort even on long distance(did bangkok several times from surat thani) but my wife will retire in a few years so she will lose the work truck, the nissan navara calibre( 2 wd, 4 wd not needed here unless you are off road constantly) was needed so we can do work at our land plus it looks pretty good too, the other one we looked at was the isuzu. Big difference for me is the nissan has lumbar support in the seats, none of the other makes (ford, toyota, mitsubishi, isuzu etc)  have it until you go top of their range, it makes for very comfortable driving plus the new nissan has air conditioning outlets to the back seat plus its also very comfortable to sit in

 

Edited August 5, 2018 by seajae