Do you believe in God and why

[OneMoreFarang]

Does anybody believe in the flying spaghetti monster? No, people laugh about it. But then people believe in a god who is just another version of that flying spaghetti monster.

 

If nobody would tell small children about that old man in the sky who created everything and knows everything no adult sane person would believe that story. But obviously there are a lot of adult people who profit from religion and who like to manipulate the stupid masses.

 

Apart from the other thousands of arguments against god my favorite is the question: If god created everything and knows everything, who created that god? Was it a super god who crated that small god? Or was it random? Or how did god start to exist? It just doesn't make any sense.

[puukao]

santa clause, tooth fairy, a zillion things made up for kids.....

 

then things made up for adults.....so they give them a moral compass and gets the cult stronger.

 

but we have morals even if no religion.   

 

why do we worship a flag of our country......same things.  belief, friendship, bonding.

 

believe, don't believe, i don't care.  i can't waste too much time worrying about this.   people think about it and become passive....pacification....another method by the cult for control.  

 

an invisible leader that is all-powerful.  lol

[luckyluke]

Gods were always very popular in many civilisations, Greeks, Romans... 

 

And then they practically dissappeared. 

 

Actually there is one called God, rather popular since a while. 

 

Of course nobody knows what may be next. 

 

[Skallywag]

 

To believe is a personal choice.  A simple belief is not harmful if not taught to children as truth or spoken as truth to adults. 

The problem with all "God" based religions is that they create human "followers" of unseen beings and century old myths. We are human beings - we have free will. Blind Faith is dangerous. People who choose myth instead of knowledge will always be potentially dangerous. 

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[Odysseus123]

18 minutes ago, luckyluke said:

Gods were always very popular in many civilisations, Greeks, Romans... 

 

And then they practically dissappeared. 

 

Actually there is one called God, rather popular since a while. 

 

Of course nobody knows what may be next. 

 

Yes it is rather interesting that the multiplicity of religions were colonized basically by the monotheistic religions-rather like the way we are losing the planet's diversity of species.

 

I guess Hinduism and Shintoism remain as part of the original polytheistic word view..

 

 Any old Greek or Roman adventurer would recognize the Thai Hindu/Buddhist/Animist mix.

 

We have lost thousands of religions in the last 500 years.

Edited April 15, 2019 by Odysseus123

[rumak]

There was a god here but he has left do to the more stringent immigration policies.  I think he was doing the

monthly income method.....

[55Jay]

I rather put my "faith" in the continual, admittedly imperfect, process of scientific discovery rather than subscribe to a static system of faith based belief that resents and resists change.

[55Jay]

4 minutes ago, rumak said:

There was a god here but he has left do to the more stringent immigration policies.  I think he was doing the

monthly income method.....

There's still a few around, they primarily hang out over in the World News forum.  ????

[mauGR1]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

Not really. People who believe in God can look down on non-believers with a sense of moral superiority, however unwarranted that is.

I heard it was the opposite

[mauGR1]

21 minutes ago, 55Jay said:

I rather put my "faith" in the continual, admittedly imperfect, process of scientific discovery rather than subscribe to a static system of faith based belief that resents and resists change.

Any god would agree with that.

[totally thaied up]

I have seen God, touched God, tasted God when I have been mentally unwell. I have seen, heard and experienced things most would not believe when I have been manic and to this day, with all those mismatched chemicals running around in my brain, I cannot fathom the truth as it has seeemed to be all so real.

 

I was never religious but was about to quote endlessly from the Bible when manic. I saw mythical beings during the worst of my hallucinations.  I do not know the truth, I will never understand what happened to me, but if there is intelligent design out there, why only show it to people like myself that are sick and can just prove nothing from the experience. I really do not know the truth because it frightens me what I have seen, because if it is true, we are all at the mercy of intelligent design being known as God or something much greater. My doctors say my brain is a great manipulator and it is purely terrifying in what it can possible make in the realm of mania.

 

Like I said, it is very confusing what to believe. It would be comforting to know what I have seen is true and at times, I wish it was so.

Edited April 15, 2019 by totally thaied up

[CMNightRider]

It is difficult to believe anyone who has read the Bible would not believe it is the word of God.  The Bible is scientifically accurate (Joe 26:7) (Isaiah 40:22).

 

The Bible is historically accurate (Daniel 5:29) as an example.

 

The Bible is made up of 66 books, written by at least 40 different authors, in 13 different countries on three different continents.  It was written in three different languages by people of all professions.  The Bible doesn't contradict itself theologically, morally, ethically, doctrinally, scientifically, historically, or in any other way.  It was written over a span of approximately 1500 years.

 

The Bible is the only book in the world that has accurate prophecy.  Jesus Christ died for our sins, and will forgive all those who ask for forgiveness and believes in Him.  Jesus confirmed the Bible was accurate and the word of God, when He walked the earth.

 

It takes about 70 hours to read the Bible.  This is the most important book anyone could possibly ever read.  I'm not going to waste my time responding to silly comments or questions.  

 

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Edited April 15, 2019 by CharlieH
Irrelevant/flame paragraph.

[gamb00ler]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Apart from the other thousands of arguments against god my favorite is the question: If god created everything and knows everything, who created that god? Was it a super god who crated that small god? Or was it random? Or how did god start to exist? It just doesn't make any sense.

The only counterpoint that I have heard to your argument is:

 

just because everything that you have experienced or know about has (as far as you can tell) a beginning and an end, doesn't mean there isn't something, somewhere that doesn't have either beginning or end.

 

Think of Klein bottles or mobius strips as simplified examples.

 

Just sayin'.

 

Yes, I understand that an eternal existence may very well violate several laws of thermodynamics.  But humans love exceptions to most laws.

[rumak]

3 minutes ago, totally thaied up said:

I have seen God, touched God, tasted God when I have been mentally unwell. I have seen, heard and experienced things most would not believe when I have been manic and to this day, with all those mismatched chemicals running around in my brain, I cannot fathom the truth as it has seeemed to be all so real.

 

I was never religious but was about to quote endlessly from the Bible when manic. I saw mythical beings during the worst of my hallucinations.  I do not know the truth, I will never understand what happened to me, but if there is intelligent design out there, why only show it to people like myself that are sick and can just prove nothing from the experience. I really do not know the truth because it frightens me what I have seen, because if it is true, we are all at the mercy of intelligent design being known as God or something much greater. My doctors say my brain is a great manipulator and it is purely terrifying in what it can possible make in the realm of mania.

 

Like I said, it is very confusing what to believe. It would be comforting to know what I have seen is true and at time, I wish it was so.

time to change the middle word in your user name ?

 

[totally thaied up]

1 minute ago, rumak said:

time to change the middle word in your user name ?

 

I have not been sick like this for three years but I understand we’re you are coming from.

[Kasane]

God is a human mind contruct.

[villagefarang]

1 hour ago, AGareth2 said:

so you believe in the Devil then?

Helllll No ????

[KiChakayan]

13 hours ago, Benroon said:

We also know that a virgin birth didn't happen don't we so the whole thing is based on madness.

 

I would love to take comfort in something like this but come on ….

Are you so sure? I didn't believe in God until they invented In Vitro Fertilisation.

[RJRS1301]

13 hours ago, quandow said:

I believe life had some sort of intelligent design, and as I've pulled human remains out of a submerged plane crash and observed the lack of life, there is something about humans having a soul. It's even been weighed. As much as the method used to weigh the soul was sloppy science, I think the bible is sloppy narrative. Jesus was a short dark guy, not the European with flowing brown hair currently selling His book. It's been rewritten so many times with so many inconsistencies that it's difficult to fathom anyone taking it 100% seriously. There ARE many good parables, the lessons are good standards to apply to your walk through life. Do I believe we were created? Yes. Do I believe in the Judeo-Christian interpretation of God? No.

So we did not evolve from pond slim??

[wl]

I regard religion as a placebo, it is fake but if you believe that it works it will work for you.


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[RJRS1301]

12 hours ago, marcusarelus said:

That's my view of religion.  Sad.  Really.  I have a daughter who is raising her son to believe in that nonsense.  I never raised her that way.  I don't know what her husband has done to her. 

Given her a good shagging, crying out "Oh  God Jesus that was good" at each orgasm 

[Lacessit]

5 minutes ago, CMNightRider said:

It is difficult to believe anyone who has read the Bible would not believe it is the word of God.  The Bible is scientifically accurate (Joe 26:7) (Isaiah 40:22).

 

The Bible is historically accurate (Daniel 5:29) as an example.

 

The Bible is made up of 66 books, written by at least 40 different authors, in 13 different countries on three different continents.  It was written in three different languages by people of all professions.  The Bible doesn't contradict itself theologically, morally, ethically, doctrinally, scientifically, historically, or in any other way.  It was written over a span of approximately 1500 years.

 

The Bible is the only book in the world that has accurate prophecy.  Jesus Christ died for our sins, and will forgive all those who ask for forgiveness and believes in Him.  Jesus confirmed the Bible was accurate and the word of God, when He walked the earth.

 

It takes about 70 hours to read the Bible.  This is the most important book anyone could possibly ever read.  I'm not going to waste my time responding to silly comments or questions.  

 

Unfortunately, this site has more than its share of naive and cognitive deprived individuals who actually defend what Thai Immigration is doing to western retirees with their latest ridicules rules and regulations.  Hopefully, these people will take the time to read the Bible instead of trying to memorize loonie Thai Immigration rules. ????

The Bible has been changed dozens of times. The Apocrypha was part of the Old Testament. It was omitted when its texts were deemed too bloodthirsty for public consumption.

Talk to any Muslim, and they will tell you the Koran is the last and immutable word of Allah through his prophet Mohammed. They dismiss Jesus and the Bible as holy, but not in the same class as Islam. The Koran is only supposed to be read in the original Arabic.

Before you start describing other posters as naive, cognitively deprived, or silly, you might want to think about how others view your posts.

[marcusarelus]

1 hour ago, GinBoy2 said:

I struggle with this

 

What I would say however, that religion, whether or not you believe as an adult, as a child it provides you with a moral compass, which at least for me, has served me well through my life

I take it you didn't go to a Catholic boys school. 

[55Jay]

4 minutes ago, totally thaied up said:

I have not been sick like this for three years but I understand we’re you are coming from.

I'm no Dr. but from what I recall reading/hearing over time, a lot of these visions and encounters occur when the body and mind are in some kind of extremis or altered state.   Apart from religious leaders, don't hear of too many sober, otherwise stable folks sat on the couch at home claiming to be in touch with their chosen god.  Otherwise stable would exclude the more extreme religious believers.

[CharlieH]

Dont know if its the same these days, but as a child through Teens religion was forced upon us by means of Sunday School (unofficial free childminding), morning assembly which included Lords prayer and hymns everyday and Religious Education on the timetable which couldnt be swapped out for other subjects.

[xylophone]

12 hours ago, Benroon said:

But millions if not billions lead a peaceful virtuous life by following its teachings Whether its a complete fairy story who knows (I think it is something that has been so rehashed and rewritten it bears no resemblance to the original) - but true or false if it means millions get something out of it, it can't be all bad I guess.

I'm not a believer in any way, shape or form and although many people find comfort in believing in god or something like it, they do so because they are needy, and for me there is nothing worse than seeing something like a building collapse and 99 people being killed, and then someone runs out of the building clasping a child praising god for sparing the child – – but as regards the other 99, oh well, perhaps he was asleep on the job!

 

I'm sure there are countless millions of human beings who have led a peaceful and virtual existence by believing in other gods, statues, corn dollies, elephants and so on, so one god does not serve all purposes, obviously!

 

On a final note, whomsoever decided to set up the structure of the Roman Catholic Church was a very shrewd person(s) indeed, knowing that it was a way to be able to control people and also control the inflow of money and riches..........and as for famines and fat priests, don't get me started!

[marcusarelus]

9 minutes ago, 55Jay said:

I'm no Dr. but from what I recall reading/hearing over time, a lot of these visions and encounters occur when the body and mind are in some kind of extremis or altered state.   Apart from religious leaders, don't hear of too many sober, otherwise stable folks sat on the couch at home claiming to be in touch with their chosen god.  Otherwise stable would exclude the more extreme religious believers.

As a result of my Catholic education I read and wrote Latin and went to the special collections department at a big city library and read ancient texts on conjuring up girl slaves to take care of my teenage needs.  Never worked.  Parents thought I was a little nutty. 

[Lacessit]

1 minute ago, xylophone said:

 

On a final note, whomsoever decided to set up the structure of the Roman Catholic Church was a very shrewd person(s) indeed, knowing that it was a way to be able to control people and also control the inflow of money and riches..........and as for famines and fat priests, don't get me started!

The occurrences of pedophilia among priests in the Roman Catholic Church were actually instigated by the church itself. In the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries, celibacy for priests was introduced in order to protect the church from inheritance claims by children fathered by the clergy.

Any psychiatrist/psychologist worth their salt will tell you when natural human instincts are suppressed, it is statistically inevitable a percentage of people subject to that suppression will develop warped instincts in compensation.

The biggest sins of the church hierarchy are their attempts to protect pedophiles, limit the financial redress of victims, and failing to acknowledge it is their own policies that initiated what is coming to light in this era. I have nothing but disgust for them.

[Lacessit]

11 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

As a result of my Catholic education I read and wrote Latin and went to the special collections department at a big city library and read ancient texts on conjuring up girl slaves to take care of my teenage needs.  Never worked.  Parents thought I was a little nutty. 

Some things don't change.

[xylophone]