American escapee not yet dead as earlier reported

[webfact]

American escapee not yet dead as earlier reported

 

Picture: 77kaoded

 

Thai media 77kaoded quoted the director of Somdet Phrayupharat Hospital in Sa Kaeo as saying that the American man who escaped from a Pattaya court was not yet dead. 

 

The media mentioned "Coma!!" in their headline. 

 

Dr Phuwadon Kittiwattanasan said that Bart Allen Helmus was in a critical condition at 3.30 am but was still on a respirator. 

 

His wife was also in a serious condition after he apparently shot her in the forehead. 

 

ER staff confirmed to the media around 4 am that the American was still alive, but barely. His heart was still pumping, they said. 

 

Picture: 77kaoded

 

Earlier Thai media reported that he was already dead. 

 

The truth seems to be that after five hours in such a critical condition he would be presumed dead and life support would be turned off, notes Thaivisa. 

 

77kaoded contradicted and added to previous reports about the couple's capture. They said the American fired at the police twice with a BB gun adapted to be a 9 mm. 

 

He then was reported as shooting his wife Sirinpha in the forehead. Earlier reports suggested she was only slightly wounded, now she is in a grievous condition according to the director of the hospital. 

 

Following shooting his wife the American turned the gun on himself, shooting to the head said 77kaoded. 

 

Source: 77kaoded

 

 

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[holy cow cm]

Great. And here they will use this against us good guys because he can't pay his hospital bill.

[4MyEgo]

Let me guess, but soon will be to match the earlier news bulletin.

Edited November 7, 2019 by 4MyEgo

[orchis]

not yet; they're still working on it.

[colinneil]

How can you believe any news article here anymore?

His wife is in custody, no shes not, he just shot her.

He shot himself, hes dead, no hes not, the truth is out there somewhere, but who knows what the truth is?

[unamazedloso]

im no expert but typically the auto bb's cant be adapted to 9mm? usually a bb revolver would work but typically just modified for .22 because easier and also can use smooth bores and such... (im not involved in any illegal activity just talk from thais....(that are all good))

[bdenner]

Must have been mistaken? Thought it was her sitting in the back of a police pickup yesterday being taken away. Didn't look critically injured then.

[LomSak27]

Go with what you know. Hang himself in a cell. Take a dive from a balcony. Looks like people are way over thinking this

[Tayaout]

Tomorrow headline: he ded from hanging himself or jumping the window. 

Edited November 7, 2019 by Tayaout

[Dmaxdan]

27 minutes ago, webfact said:

The truth seems to be that after five hours in such a critical condition he would be presumed dead and life support would be turned off, notes Thaivisa. 

Is that the case for all patients of just on the run fugitives? 

 

 

[LennyW]

The soap opera continues!!, stay tuned folks!!

[Samuel Smith]

5 minutes ago, Dmaxdan said:

Is that the case for all patients of just on the run fugitives? 

 

 

Depends on their credit cards

[bluesofa]

44 minutes ago, webfact said:

The media mentioned "Coma!!" in their headline. 

Later it will be reported as a misprit, and should have actually said "Cambodia!!'

 

[Bluespunk]

47 minutes ago, webfact said:

They said the American fired at the police twice with a BB gun adapted to be a 9 mm. 

 

Can that be done {the adaption that is, I'm sure that it was possible to shoot at the BIB. Not advisable, but possible}?

[ezzra]

In times like this i'm very happy living in this magnificent country, not a dull moment here folks...where else you get this kind of suspense and entertainments on an hourly basis, priceless i tell ya...

[bluesofa]

2 minutes ago, ezzra said:

In times like this i'm very happy living in this magnificent country, not a dull moment here folks...where else you get this kind of suspense and entertainments on an hourly basis, priceless i tell ya...

It's classic Shakespeare: The Comedy of Errors.

[PatOngo]

I can't see the Pulitzer Prize for Journalism going to 77kaoded!

[fforest1]

This is simply pathetic news reporting....

 

Dont EVER expect to get the real story behind all this..

Edited November 7, 2019 by fforest1

[worgeordie]

He might just be asleep,waiting for the guards,he will have guards ?

to fall asleep, then begger off to Cambodia.

 

This story has more twists and bends than the road to Mae Hong son

once again sterling reporting from the Thai media,who don't seem

to know their @rse from their elbow

regards Worgeordie

[bluesofa]

1 minute ago, PatOngo said:

I can't see the Pulitzer Prize for Journalism going to 77kaoded!

The Bullsh!tter Prize for Thai Journalism?

[gk10002000]

1 hour ago, holy cow cm said:

Great. And here they will use this against us good guys because he can't pay his hospital bill.

Yeah, disgusting that they took this guy into hospital while many hospitals are giving so many other people grief about insurance before treatment.  Maybe the Police up front agreed to pay the bill?  Yeah and I got some fine marshland here in Florida for sale

Edited November 7, 2019 by gk10002000

[gk10002000]

28 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Can that be done {the adaption that is, I'm sure that it was possible to shoot at the BIB. Not advisable, but possible}?

It can be done if one owns a machine shop!  He may have just re-used the barrel, opened up the end where the BB would come out.  At the trigger end, well, somehow install a firing pin.  Might be a one shot Saturday night special, with a simple spring loaded pin, and not a real trigger.  No clip, no magazine, barely a simple chamber to put the one bullet in.  I have seen some pretty simple single shot guns that people makeshift together.  But reading another post I see he allegedly fired 5 or 6 shots.  So pretty much no idea what is what!

Edited November 7, 2019 by gk10002000

[evadgib]

With this much confusion can anyone be sure he's even a yank?

[RJRS1301]

What a reporting debacle, do any "journalists" on any outlet do fact checking with appointed spokespeople for police or medical services? No wonder news articles are treated with some scepticism.

Do journalists in Thailand have qualifications? 

 

[kcpattaya]

What a nonsense. I hope he will survive by the way!
Watching the video footage; There is no way the wife shot herself in the head. BS

 

[happy chappie]

In this day and age it doesn't matter if it's false or fake news just as long as it's the first news to be reported.

 

[neeray]

1 hour ago, LomSak27 said:

Go with what you know. Hang himself in a cell. Take a dive from a balcony. Looks like people are way over thinking this

All that speculation by TV posters yesterday for not !!!

[pegman]

Someone needs to trip over the cord

[Khon Kaen Jeff]

59 minutes ago, ezzra said:

In times like this i'm very happy living in this magnificent country, not a dull moment here folks...where else you get this kind of suspense and entertainments on an hourly basis, priceless i tell ya...

I take it you don't get out much.

[Vacuum]

48 minutes ago, fforest1 said:

This is simply pathetic news reporting....

Yes it's Fake News. What's up with the new control organisation that should control this?