View from my joint 2 nights ago.

5 minutes ago, Albaby said:

View from my joint 2 nights ago.

the Thais are incapable of taking reponsibility for their own well being. hardly anyone wearing a mask. business as usual

this will boost tourism.

Anyone know what has happened to the law suit taken out by a CM pressure group? They recently slapped an injunction on the government demanding an action plan in 90 days. That time must be coming soon! Oh, by the way the aqi close to my house is 340 at 13:30 hrs and you can chew the air.

On 2/25/2024 at 10:08 AM, TheAppletons said:

 

  You may wish to move to the Swiss Alps then.  

I was getting the idea that all the Swiss have moved here, or Phuket at least, well, temporarily that is. 🙂

It's been like this in Chiang Mai and the entire South East Asian area for decades.

 

People are always going to be enamored by Thailand despite it's pollution, corruption, and questionable governance.

 

 

13 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

It's been like this in Chiang Mai and the entire South East Asian area for decades.

 

People are always going to be enamored by Thailand despite it's pollution, corruption, and questionable governance.

 

 

I know many people who have left in the past few years due to poor air. Lousy infrastructure. Poor health care. Etc. I'm debating also.

4 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

I know many people who have left in the past few years due to poor air. Lousy infrastructure. Poor health care. Etc. I'm debating also.

I understand.

 

Despite all my grumblings I'm happier here despite it's shortcomings. 

20 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

I understand.

 

Despite all my grumblings I'm happier here despite it's shortcomings. 

Me too! But sometimes I debate a move. Usually after a few beers.  5555

The Pm has praised the efforts of reducing the level of toxicity.

BBC news today "Thailand: 10 million sought treatment for pollution-related illnesses in 2023"

The hotspot problem is all over South East Asia now. The situation is out of control. The amount of carbon dioxide and pollutants released into the air! The tracts of land destroyed!

 

Hotspot – Distribution Map

19 minutes ago, Albaby said:

Carbon Dioxide is greening the earth. Nothing to do with the pollution afflicting Chiang Mai.

Yes I agree C02 is greening the earth  and the particulate matter pollution across Thailand is mostly due to burning forest and fields.

It's just the regular knitting season! if you can move it will save your life for a bit longer for sure 🤔

Great place to retire!😂🤦🤷🏻‍♂️
still  those that defend it. Must have made the mistake of buying there!

18 minutes ago, Northstar1 said:

Great place to retire!😂🤦🤷🏻‍♂️
still  those that defend it. Must have made the mistake of buying there!

As you will die much earlier because of the air pollution, you have much more money in each of the years still left.  Simple mathematics 🤣

5 hours ago, bg53 said:

The amount of carbon dioxide and pollutants released into the air!

soft power.

5 hours ago, johng said:

Yes I agree C02 is greening the earth

 

Greening the earth by burning greens. Yup, makes more sense than meteorological conspiracies.

11 hours ago, Roo Island said:

I know many people who have left in the past few years due to poor air. Lousy infrastructure. Poor health care. Etc. I'm debating also.

It was the reason we left after 16 years. 

 

It's not been like this since forever as some people would like unto believe.

 

As the years go on its getting worse...because of the increase in population, cars, farmland, etc etc. 

Here's the NASA FRIMS map and the AQI numbers at this time. The usual culprits are Shan State in the NW and Laos to the East where contract farming as a proxy for China maize production is rampant, courtesy of Thai business sponsors. On a granular basis, that is hotspot density, Thailand looks much better than its neighbours, despite the massive fires in northern Chiang Mai. You have to view the first two maps in the context of the wind map, all major wind currents presently are from the East., which blow in all the airborne pollution from Vietnam and Laos. Lastly, Chiang Mai suffers from the inversion layer, because it is surrounded by mountains, which only compounds the problem.

 

 

https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/map/#d:24hrs;@101.2,14.8,6.0z

 

 

https://www.windy.com/?16.563,105.262,7,m:d2gajcr

 

I wonder how many different threads can be started in AseanNow about air pollution.

Perhaps we could have a contest to see who can post the greatest number of redundant comments?

 

Mods... didn't you start a separate forum just for Air Quality two years ago?  Can you start it up again? This is just the very beginning of the Burning Season and already there are three different threads on my first page.

5 hours ago, jak2002003 said:

It was the reason we left after 16 years. 

 

It's not been like this since forever as some people would like unto believe.

 

As the years go on its getting worse...because of the increase in population, cars, farmland, etc etc. 

We were in Jomtien for a few months recently. Air was horrible! Now in Pranburi and today is absolutely disgusting. We're going further south to see if it clears up...

18 hours ago, MrJ2U said:

It's been like this in Chiang Mai and the entire South East Asian area for decades.

 

People are always going to be enamored by Thailand despite it's pollution, corruption, and questionable governance.

 

 

No it hasn't.

 

Certainly not CM, I moved here in 2004 and don't remember hardly any pollution at all

MOVED to Air Pollution topic

6 minutes ago, ThaiPauly said:

No it hasn't.

 

Certainly not CM, I moved here in 2004 and don't remember hardly any pollution at all

 

just because you don't remember doesn't  mean there wasn't air pollution ...

i relocated from chiang mai in 2005 because of the air pollution!

17 minutes ago, ThaiPauly said:

No it hasn't.

 

Certainly not CM, I moved here in 2004 and don't remember hardly any pollution at all

I also left cm in 2007 because of poor air quality, went to Phuket. Do you remember the swedish air force poster who used to champion the clean air cause at the time?

8 minutes ago, motdaeng said:

 

just because you don't remember doesn't  mean there wasn't air pollution ...

i relocated from chiang mai in 2005 because of the air pollution!

Maybe you were the first person to have a machine to detect it......but I didn't know there were any available  in 2004. I didn't even notice any pollution!!

 

You obviously left when the numbers were very low, you could see the numbers going up and opted  to save yourselves from it

 

But I don't blame you for leaving..save your life, that's why I left.

I have bronchitis as it is ,  and am sure it would be further agreived in CM

2 minutes ago, ThaiPauly said:

Maybe you were the first person to have a machine to detect it......but I didn't know there were any available  in 2004. I didn't even notice any pollution!!

 

You obviously left when the numbers were very low, you could see the numbers going up and opted  to save yourselves from it

 

But I don't blame you for leaving..save your life, that's why I left.

I have bronchitis as it is ,  and am sure it would be further agreived in CM

The PCD had four fixed sensors and one mobile sensor, actually I think they were owned by CMU and that the PCD hadn't been formed yet.