No Thai law to mandate quarantine of Thais returning from South Korea – DPM Prawit

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No Thai law to mandate quarantine of Thais returning from South Korea – DPM Prawit

 

 

Deputy Prime Minister Prawit Wongsuwan said today that Thailand has no law that can force Thais, working illegally in South Korea, into quarantine upon their return. There has been widespread concern expressed on social media about the returnees representing a risk of a widespread outbreak of COVID-19 in Thailand.

 

He said that it is necessary, however, for authorities to tell the returning workers to confine themselves at home for at least 14 days. According to the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs, more than 5,000 Thai workers, who have overstayed their visas in South Korea, have registered to return home, after the South Korean government announced that it will not take legal action against them if they leave South Korea voluntarily by June 30th, 2020.

 

According to the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs, more than 5,000 Thai workers, who have overstayed their visas in South Korea, have registered to return home, after the South Korean government announced that it will not take legal action against them if they leave South Korea voluntarily by June 30th, 2020.

 

Source: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/no-thai-law-to-mandate-quarantine-of-thais-returning-from-south-korea-dpm-prawit/

 

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[TallGuyJohninBKK]

I'm pretty sure the emergency dangerous disease declaration the government just enacted and published in the Royal Gazette gives health authorities the power to do pretty much whatever they want in the interest of preventing the spread of the coronavirus.

 

[Thaiwrath]

4 minutes ago, webfact said:

Deputy Prime Minister Prawit Wongsuwan said today

Only got that far and stopped reading !

Can't stand the <deleted>.

[unamazedloso]

Fatty, you can do woteva you want. You do want to dont you?.....

[DrTuner]

Thais might as well buy the used hospital equipment from Wuhan and tell people to lick them. They are so keen on maximizing the spread potential.

[christophe75]

He's reading his watch, backward.

 

What about... korean, chinese, italian, french, german (endless list) individuals who arrive in Thailand ? As tourists, business or whatever ?

 

The risk (if there is a risk) would be the same, no ?

 

A Thai who lives in Korea, or a korean who lives in Korea... Same same ? Or different ?

 

To solve this riddle you will need minimum 2 watches.

Edited March 3, 2020 by christophe75

[connda]

They hypocrisy:  constantly harping on the dangers of foreigner overstays as 100,000 Thais work illegally - just in one country alone.  
A week ago:
Ai farang!  Kick you out if bad farang no wear mask!

100,000 Thais working illegally in S. Korea return home:
No one needs mask.  Just wash hand.  All good! 
 

[ukrules]

If there is a massive and widespread outbreak in Thailand this is the one event that could trigger it.

 

It will give them something to blame it on and save face.

[Ventenio]

Call me uneducated......but I'm sure they could get a law in place faster than I hit "submit reply"  

[Dumbastheycome]

Give  him a break on that ! Legal mandate or not in practical terms how  could it be done? Where and in  what facilities does Thailand have to quarantine any large number of people? What country  does?

Were any such country including Thailand to attempt such including all facilities on top of best medical provision it would  be political suicide.

Or would it be acceptable to inflict  detention camp style incarceration on citizens to satisfy public paranoia? Mexican  Border style, Syrian refugee style, etc?

Get  used to the fact that the  acid test is  already  underway.

Not as any measure of any attempts in interventionist controls.

A measure of the tenacity of both this virus and  people.

China  has  experienced its  pandemic.

Thailand has to date only had localized epidemics which have been measurable.

As an ongoing effect of the impact on business and employment there are already increasing numbers of people departing the generalized centres of those  epidemic. Potential carriers of infection who despite never needing or requiring medical attention are dispersing out into wider areas or other provinces.

Now is  why I suggest the "acid test". If there is to be a significant pandemic it will start to appear soon.

Or, as  many are hoping, it will diminish with the weather.

I wonder if UK Bookies are  giving  any odds?

 

 

[Destiny1990]

Last week i read that a bunch officials swoop in on two illegal Cambodian Street fruit sellers. Fingerpointing and all that. While in Korea there are 100,000 alien Thais overstaying their visas !

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

23 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said:

Give  him a break on that ! Legal mandate or not in practical terms how  could it be done? Where and in  what facilities does Thailand have to quarantine any large number of people? What country  does?

 

 

The U.S. put all of its evacuees from Wuhan into two week quarantines at a couple of military bases stateside.

 

I think it's safe to say, Thailand probably has more than enough military housing available to use for the purpose if they wanted to use it. And they did the same thing with their Wuhan evacuees at a military facility in Chonburi, if memory serves.

 

Or just boot out all the retired generals still living in military houses and use those in addition. The former sex workers from South Korea probably would enjoy living in generals' houses for a few weeks.

 

Plus, AFAIK, they're not likely to be bringing back all 5000 at once. It sounds like it's going to be a gradual daily influx as allowed by available air transport limitations. At the rate mentioned in the other article, it could take them up to two months to bring back the entire group.

 

In other words, they very likely wouldn't need to arrange housing for the 5000 number all at one time, since different individuals would be entering and exiting quarantine over time. Thus the actual amount of housing needed would be considerably less than the total returnee group.

 

 

 

Edited March 3, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[colinneil]

So ole Fatty managed to stay awake long enough to make that statement, WOW.

[Dumbastheycome]

5 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

The U.S. put all of its evacuees from Wuhan into two week quarantines at a couple of military bases stateside.

 

I think it's safe to say, Thailand probably has more than enough military housing available to use for the purpose if they wanted to use it. And they did the same thing with their Wuhan evacuees at a military facility in Chonburi, if memory serves.

 

Or just boot out all the retired generals still living in military houses and use those in addition. The former sex workers from South Korea probably would enjoy living in a general's house for a few weeks.

 

Plus, AFAIK, they're not likely to be bringing back all 5000 at once. It sounds like it's going to be a gradual daily influx as allowed by available air transport limitations. At the rate mentioned in the other article, it could take them up to two months to bring back the entire group.

 

 

5000 registered out of a potential 100,000 desiring return. Monitoring even 1000 in dispersed residences would be no more practical than confinement to own  house IMO.

[Almer]

Well make a law, you can make any law you want e.g   When one returns from another country on the at risk chart and you have been in close or very close or very very very close contact with an at risk person,  you shall enter quarantine for a period not exceeding 14 days, there, easy as that sir.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

1 minute ago, Dumbastheycome said:

5000 registered out of a potential 100,000 desiring return. Monitoring even 1000 in dispersed residences would be no more practical than confinement to own  house IMO.

 

The Army has A LOT of concentrated housing units, including barracks, hotels, etc etc that they own/control. They could handle 1000 at a time for sure without any problem... except perhaps for maintaining order/discipline in the nearby uniformed ranks.... 

[Dumbastheycome]

4 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

The Army has A LOT of concentrated housing units, including barracks, hotels, etc etc that they own/control. They could handle 1000 at a time for sure without any problem... except perhaps for maintaining order/discipline in the nearby uniformed ranks.... 

Hmmm. Korean clap? A potential vaccine !

[jackdd]

38 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said:

Give  him a break on that ! Legal mandate or not in practical terms how  could it be done? Where and in  what facilities does Thailand have to quarantine any large number of people? What country  does?

Just send them on an island, the hotels there are now empty anyway.

[madmitch]

Is there a law stating that any student that returns from one of several countries must self-quarantine for 14 days?

 

Don't think so, but there is a Government mandate requesting this.

 

At times like this good, sensible governance is required and far too many countries in the world don't have the right people for this. Thailand is pretty close to the top of that list.

 

 

[NanLaew]

He is a leading player in a government that can make up arbitrary laws to stifle political opposition but they can't come up with laws to keep the Thai population a whole lot safer. This while so many other countries have easily introduced, coronavirus-specific emergency laws that mandate that foreigners from certain countries be denied entry and nationals returning from certain countries be quarantined so they can protect their population.

[White Christmas13]

50 minutes ago, jackdd said:

Just send them on an island, the hotels there are now empty anyway.

Koh Tao springs to mind

[metisdead]

Please use discretion in your references to the government. Phrases which can be considered as anti-coup will be removed. Referring to Thailand or the government as a dictatorship, military dictatorship or other such terms will be removed:

 

 

[Tayaout]

The reality is simply that they don't have the ressource to potentially quarantine 100K peoples and test them. 

[Cake Monster]

Wheeling out this old #### now to give Anutin a bit of a break. Poor thing

[CGW]

2 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said:

Give  him a break on that ! Legal mandate or not in practical terms how  could it be done? Where and in  what facilities does Thailand have to quarantine any large number of people? What country  does?

Go on, ruin a reason for us to "rant" over the incompetence that is in power with sound logic and facts! ????

[Dumbastheycome]

25 minutes ago, CGW said:

Go on, ruin a reason for us to "rant" over the incompetence that is in power with sound logic and facts! ????

It is the  distraction of the portrayed reactive incompetence as much as the reaction to it that  causes  me most concern in all seriousness.

There is a pervading  sense of derision and gloating over what is the inevitable failure in both the complacent expectations of salvation from bureaucrats and the paralysing adoption of paranoid participation in that!

Is this  virus the problem it is  being  made into?

IMO yes....but  not  by virtue of being an infectious disease!

It is  by virtue of what is being enacted politically and economically !

The "masses" have already been duped into losing  perspective of  community disease incidence resulting in mortality.

My only surprise is that  religious organizations have not whole heartedly stormed the streets and social media with  claims "Doom is nigh! Salvation can only be ensured via  Paypal, Visa, Master C, etc" ! maybe they have  but I do not  subscribe  to such vehicles  of  bs  other than TVF.

But! and it is  a very  important  but.........it has provided  very advantageous opportunity to excuse a dramatic change in  global connectivity. An excuse  to implement totalitarian control in various ways and degrees. Travel restrictions, shipping disruptions, increased mandatory priority level entry assessments, socio/economic risk group assessments etc in whatever form  can be  justified under the  umbrella of " public health protection". Prioritization of medical intervention in favour of the same assumed elite that dictate the  above. 

Pessimistic? Wait with me and see ! There is always  flaw in the plan. ????

 

 

 

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

No Thai law to mandate quarantine of Thais returning from South Korea – DPM Prawit

 

Maybe Prawit did not read or understand the meaning of the CV emergency declaration that went into effect this past Sunday, described as follows:

 

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The announcement empowers officials to order people suspected of being infected with Covid-19 to undergo treatment and put them in quarantine, and to close venues affected by the coronavirus, among other measures. 

 

[justin case]

I guess korea does not have BMW smart cars ?

[30la]

20 hours ago, webfact said:

Deputy Prime Minister Prawit Wongsuwan said today that Thailand has no law that can force Thais, working illegally in South Korea, into quarantine upon their return. There has been widespread concern expressed on social media about the returnees representing a risk of a widespread outbreak of COVID-19 in Thailand.

Since when have the representatives of the government never been elected, respect for the laws?

[Caldera]

He should be sent to greet each and every returnee.