2 hours ago, AndyAndyAndy said:

Is there anybody left who is not having a complete mental breakdown because of corona? Who is like me going about his normal everyday life?

 

Without making any changes at all? Anybody left?

It seems your life must be pretty boring when nothing changes at all.

 

I have no panic and I take it easy. But by now I wear a mask, I try not to touch lots of public surfaces (i.e. lift) and I avoid crowded places (as far as they still exist).

I still go to the fresh market and the supermarket.

But unfortunately no 30 minute coffee breaks and 2 hour lunches anymore. I understand and accept the reason, no problem.

Life goes on, some of us will get sick, some of us will die - just like normal life, only a little accelerated.

Take it easy, eventually life will return to normal.

1 minute ago, OneMoreFarang said:

It seems your life must be pretty boring when nothing changes at all.

 

I have no panic and I take it easy. But by now I wear a mask, I try not to touch lots of public surfaces (i.e. lift) and I avoid crowded places (as far as they still exist).

I still go to the fresh market and the supermarket.

But unfortunately no 30 minute coffee breaks and 2 hour lunches anymore. I understand and accept the reason, no problem.

Life goes on, some of us will get sick, some of us will die - just like normal life, only a little accelerated.

Take it easy, eventually life will return to normal.

Good and sensible attitude..

1 hour ago, cyril sneer said:

I would still be at home in my room playing with myself, it's my school holidays

Too much information.

Can no longer play golf, some Thais have an anti foreigner vibe currently, not possible to sit in restaurants i used to like, not as free to go out, i haven't been to a bar in 2 weeks or so, no massages, no ladies. Added danger now when out and about, Thais will be looking to rob people soon.

 

Have you looked at your pension recently? most people don't but you'll find it's dropped big time, also bear in mind if countries go bust with all these bailouts to companies and people their pensions will most likely be cut. There will be a big fall out financially, we won't know until the dust settles

1 hour ago, AndyAndyAndy said:

I'm in big village/small city in North-east Thailand.

 

Changes: about 10% of people are wearing a mask. Tesco checks your temperature. 7/11 employees are wearing masks&gloves. That's it!

 

All shops are open. All business are open. Everything is open. People are going about their normal everyday life. Streets are full. It's only when I check ThaiVisa people are barricading themselves in the houses, raiding food stores and preparing for the end of the world. ????????????

 

Coming soon to your village and the villages near you.

 

If you think your location provides you some kind of protection or that the virus won't come there, it surely will. Just a matter of time.

 

You'd best be prepared.

 

Heard a Dr. on TV saying in this time of Coronavirus staying at home we should focus on inner peace. To achieve this we should always finish things we start and we all could use more calm in our lives. I looked through my house to find things i’d started and hadn’t finished, so I finished off a bottle of Merlot, a bottle of Chardonnay, a bodle of Baileys, a butle of wum, tha mainder of Valiumun srciptuns, an a box a chocletz. Yu haf no idr how f****n fablus I feel rite now. Sned this to all who need inner peas. An telum u luvum. And two hash yer wands, stafe day avrybobby!!!

I do.

 

But the problem is : we are prisoners of the insane decisions taken by governments (not ony thai).

 

My position is clear : when China slapped Wuhan with a lockdown, january 23, I was scared, because it was unknown.

 

But then, with all the incoming data.... I became a non-believer.

 

This virus is just a big flu.

 

It kills old, sick, weak people. Perhaps a little bit faster than usual... But nothing more.

 

In other word : nothing new under the sun.

 

Yes there are and there always be "strange" cases (put forward by the medias) :

-the 16 years old girl in France

-the sport guy 35 years old with no "prior pathology"

 

etc.

 

Everything is done to scare the flock, the sheeps.

 

Italy is a show case. Right now they have 10 000 deads.

 

My personal "alert" level is 20 000. It's the number of dead Italy had because of the heat wave in august 2003 (same for France).

 

The first victim of this mass hysteria and collective hallucination is : the understanding of scales

 

People take all incoming data without any perspective.

 

"10 000 deads in Italy ! Oh my god ! It's the end ! It's terrible !"

 

They do not know that a total of 647 000 italian died in 2019, and 633 000 in 2018.

 

What would be a real and significant surmortality number compared to an average year ?

 

10 % ?

 

That would be 64 000 more deaths for the whole 2020.

 

We will see at the end of december

 

In Thailand, this exercice becomes even more absurd. I'm not saying that a car accident is the same than the virus. But they do have one thing in common : a corpse is a corpse.

 

And it's impossible to remain calm when on one hand, we have 5 deads because of the virus... and on the other... 25 000 (mostly young) people crashed into pieces every freaking year in road accidents...

 

Again, we are losing common sense and sense of scales.

 

To shutdown the whole country for this ? 69 millions people jailed for 5 deads and a few thousands cases ?

 

It's beyond a joke.

 

It's now a crime.

 

A crime against our intelligence.

 

And a crime against humanity.

20 minutes ago, Logosone said:

No change here, I'll be heading out to get some food and supplies in a bit. 

 

I carry a mask in case the mask nazis stop you from entering a store, or if the air is too heavy. Do extra morning exercise to strengthen the immune system.

 

But I also live in a large house with a pool and garden, so I go for swims, play with the pets and kids and listen to the wife play piano. I organise my collection of books on my tablet, download a few more on my favourite site.

 

Otherwise, I try to catch up more with news about coronavirus to have an idea when this totally predictable pandemic which our governments failed to prepare for could be over. 

 

 

You dont have any friends to go out to meet?

I'm in Luang Prabang, north Laos.  The city is in lock-down, only the pharmacies and one supermarket are open.  All hotels, cafes, restaurants, massage and other shops are closed.

 

I work from home anyway (I teach science online).  So no changes there.

 

My main hobby is ham radio, and my 'rig' is next to my work-station.  So no changes to that either.

 

I still jog at 4.45am, because there's no chance of passing on or getting the virus, since all sane people are still in bed.

 

I'm used to living alone and not going stir crazy ????

I've stopped riding Pattaya baht buses and going to restaurants. 

 

Need I say more? 

 

No but I will. 

 

There is a lot of anti western propaganda and scapegoating here going on these days. 

 

I suggest showing some love (keep your distance!) and big tips to the front line workers that are being ignored relative to health care workers. 

 

Delivery drivers of all kinds. 

 

Grocery store clerks etc. 

 

It could be as little as acknowledging them as human beings. 

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, Sujo said:

You dont have any friends to go out to meet?

You're not supposed to be meeting with friends now. 

2 hours ago, Berkshire said:

Hmmm....it's impossible to just live a "normal everyday life."  Many of the things that I normally do is just not available due to closure.  I have no fear of the COVID and I'm definitely not having a mental breakdown.  But my quality of life is suffering for sure.  And it sounds like this will go on until at least the end of April.  I may become an alcoholic by the time this thing runs its course.

"and it sounds like this will go on until at least the end of April".  

 

Where did you hear that sound? The current attempt to slow the spread will make it last a lot longer.

 

Usually, every year, viruses need to change to survive (yes, even viruses want to survive), due to widespread immunity built up in the community. If we slow down the spread through extreme social distancing measures, the virus will remain viable for a lot longer as it has a continuous supply of viable hosts that haven't developed immunity. This coronavirus is nothing new. It was born and a time when social networking can quickly fuel widespread panic, and this panic is making people take absurd measures to protect themselves. 

2 hours ago, cyril sneer said:

I would still be at home in my room playing with myself, it's my school holidays

Do your mom and dad know that? ????

30 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Too much information.

Apologies if you got aroused 

2 hours ago, AndyAndyAndy said:

I'm in big village/small city in North-east Thailand.

 

Changes: about 10% of people are wearing a mask. Tesco checks your temperature. 7/11 employees are wearing masks&gloves. That's it!

 

All shops are open. All business are open. Everything is open. People are going about their normal everyday life. Streets are full. It's only when I check ThaiVisa people are barricading themselves in the houses, raiding food stores and preparing for the end of the world. ????????????

A good number of TV people are doing what they always do .  LIVING OUT THEIR FANTASIES

ON THAI VISA !! ????????????       The virus thing has just given them a reason why they don't go out.

17 hours ago, Crossy said:

Meanwhile, the only major change we have (I'm not a great one for out and about socialising) is that DIY activities are curtailed.

 

My DIY activities have been curtailed by the blast furnace heat outside. Our home has light colored walls which reflect heat so when working outside I get double blasted. Can't risk any more skin cancer although I did repair the mother in laws standpipe today. In retrospect this was probably a mistake as she uses it for her evening bathe , holding her sarong up by the teeth. Unfortunately she lets go of it too often and if I happen to be on the balcony I cop an unwanted eye full. Very distressing it is. Wife has asked her to use her bathroom indoors but she says it will go on the meter whereas the standpipe is free. So I have to use the back door in the evenings.

 

Apologies for digression.

I haven't been outside in 11-years, i'm protected under the UN hermit act of 1921 and have been telling everyone for years, "we are doomed, the end, forget working, it's all a simulation, you are a sheep, everything is fake...."

 

then i saw a video of a young kid being really happy, and i figured all my negativity was ruining my life.  so i trolled for 11 more days and then flew to Wuhan to meet my new wife.   then covid.

 

-----

 

like they say, "Don't worry, it's not like it's the end of the....."

 

oh wait.  

 

 

I saw the writing on the wall when China closed Wuhan.

I couldn't run back home due to responsibilities here

 

I'm not worrying about the virus per se....I will not go into details as to why.

The secondary effects are my main worry (from the very beginning)

Economic crash, potential food shortages and last but not least, social unrest (incl crime)

The crash is already in motion, the other two no but it's still early days

Take measures to mitigate these effects

The duration of the outbreak will decide how far we will go with the secondary effects

 

Stress?..yes I have

Neurobion (vit B 1-6-12) works wonders for your nervous system

The odd tipple here and there helps too.

A spiritual outlook of life (if you have it)  helps to see the big picture and to become more stoic.

 

Good luck everyone

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

me2...good to go

Can not afford to get virus...sheltering in place...limited shopping for essentials...

I’ve been self isolating for just over a week and without Netflix I’d be crawling up the walls ! Last week somebody in tesco lotus was diagnosed with covid19 yet they still remain open. Clearly some take this virus more seriously than others

55 minutes ago, rumak said:

A good number of TV people are doing what they always do .  LIVING OUT THEIR FANTASIES 

ON THAI VISA !! ????????????       The virus thing has just given them a reason why they don't go out.

Thanks for putting our lives in perspective, Dr Freud! ????

There are no reported cases of Covid in our Provence as yet (but watch this space) so I live life pretty much as normal. I've altered my walking routes slightly to keep away from certain houses in the village where the kids rush out and want to shake my hand every time I pass! I'd rather avoid them than cause offence.

 

Shopping as normal albeit with mask whilst in Big C (mandatory) and in Tesco Express (out of courtesy) No shortages of anything, not even eggs! In fact the village has just donated a tray of eggs along with the usual bag of rice and cooking oil to each returnee living in isolation.

 

Basically, life goes on as normal. 

 

Anybody else don't care about COVID and ignores it?

I think your topic heading is worded incorrect ...  should be :

 

If anybody doesn't care about COVID19 and ignores it then no great loss if they die

2 hours ago, christophe75 said:

I do.

 

But the problem is : we are prisoners of the insane decisions taken by governments (not ony thai).

 

My position is clear : when China slapped Wuhan with a lockdown, january 23, I was scared, because it was unknown.

 

But then, with all the incoming data.... I became a non-believer.

 

This virus is just a big flu.

 

It kills old, sick, weak people. Perhaps a little bit faster than usual... But nothing more.

 

In other word : nothing new under the sun.

 

Yes there are and there always be "strange" cases (put forward by the medias) :

-the 16 years old girl in France

-the sport guy 35 years old with no "prior pathology"

 

etc.

 

Everything is done to scare the flock, the sheeps.

 

Italy is a show case. Right now they have 10 000 deads.

 

My personal "alert" level is 20 000. It's the number of dead Italy had because of the heat wave in august 2003 (same for France).

 

The first victim of this mass hysteria and collective hallucination is : the understanding of scales

 

People take all incoming data without any perspective.

 

"10 000 deads in Italy ! Oh my god ! It's the end ! It's terrible !"

 

They do not know that a total of 647 000 italian died in 2019, and 633 000 in 2018.

 

What would be a real and significant surmortality number compared to an average year ?

 

10 % ?

 

That would be 64 000 more deaths for the whole 2020.

 

We will see at the end of december

 

In Thailand, this exercice becomes even more absurd. I'm not saying that a car accident is the same than the virus. But they do have one thing in common : a corpse is a corpse.

 

And it's impossible to remain calm when on one hand, we have 5 deads because of the virus... and on the other... 25 000 (mostly young) people crashed into pieces every freaking year in road accidents...

 

Again, we are losing common sense and sense of scales.

 

To shutdown the whole country for this ? 69 millions people jailed for 5 deads and a few thousands cases ?

 

It's beyond a joke.

 

It's now a crime.

 

A crime against our intelligence.

 

And a crime against humanity.

Thank you for speaking truth to power, for speaking logic, and having open eyes.

Yes I too classify this beyond extreme reaction as a crime. A high crime that at some point should result in big big changes to hundreds at the top and very top.

 

But this isn't my country even though I live here as retired, so why should I give a hoot? And very possible according to the 'emergency decree options' the even typing what you, or I, just did could be considered a crime. Try that hat on for size...

My quiet life east of sukhumvit in pattaya goes on mostly as it did before, but for the gym being closed - that realllly irritates me. tried to buy an ab-roller thingy today, go to the outlet mall next to Lotus, closed. Go to Lotus maybe in their sports section... all but groceries is roped off and closed, tried contacting Decathlon but nobody answers their phone or returns line msg so I guess closed too.

 

The closures of so many business irks me even though I have no skin in the game. The govt hasn't yet (ssshhhuuush!) commandeered falang bank accounts or come up with some reason to quadruple health insurance costs. I did do a couple large withdrawals recently just in case of... who knows.

 

I, and I would think most falangs being required to show and deliver on supporting ourselves in order to live here, and not financially dependent on the economy functioning normally, we're pretty financially insulated, so far.

As for the average Thai citizen with a mortgage, truck payments, payments and payments, who have found their jobs gone or hours cut back, or businesses forced to close. I feel for them, but it's their crazy government, so up to them.

 

 

3 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

I am more or less but solitude it what I like anyway, one change at mo is because of C19 my mrs insists she get things I would normally get myself. 

Same here. My wife now does all the shopping and I stay home. I have about 10 rai to wander around in but I have to do that in the early morning as it is simple too hot during the day. At 5 pm this evening it was still 37.1C, down from 39.8C at 1 pm.

 

Whist I care a bit about Covid-19 I don't ignore it. Here in rural Khampaeng Phet it doesn't seem to have found us yet. I do realise that if it comes and gets me I will either survive or die, (I am 75) and there will be little I can do to stop it.

Mostly I stay indoors as it is too hot during the day and do outside odd jobs before 9 am or after 5:30 pm.

 

I make my own breakfast and lunch and my wife does an evening meal for me. I don't see much of my 15 year old son as he is either in his room or on the computer in the afternoons and evenings. My wife has a little noodle shop out the front and I join her and our neighbours for a couple of weeks in the evenings.

 

To me, Covid-19 is a bit like the 400 kg gorilla in the corner of the room. You know it is there but you hope it will go away soon.

 

Keep happy and well everybody.

35 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Same here. My wife now does all the shopping and I stay home. I have about 10 rai to wander around in but I have to do that in the early morning as it is simple too hot during the day. At 5 pm this evening it was still 37.1C, down from 39.8C at 1 pm.

 

Whist I care a bit about Covid-19 I don't ignore it. Here in rural Khampaeng Phet it doesn't seem to have found us yet. I do realise that if it comes and gets me I will either survive or die, (I am 75) and there will be little I can do to stop it.

Mostly I stay indoors as it is too hot during the day and do outside odd jobs before 9 am or after 5:30 pm.

 

I make my own breakfast and lunch and my wife does an evening meal for me. I don't see much of my 15 year old son as he is either in his room or on the computer in the afternoons and evenings. My wife has a little noodle shop out the front and I join her and our neighbours for a couple of weeks in the evenings.

 

To me, Covid-19 is a bit like the 400 kg gorilla in the corner of the room. You know it is there but you hope it will go away soon.

 

Keep happy and well everybody.

Yeah buddy good for you seems you and my wife same, I do archery in the morning every other day at our little bit of farmland I don't like getting up early ????  it's 1k from the village, it gets to 42-43 pretty quick in the village. 

My car port I get 2 fans and mess with my bike then late aft go back farmland farmhouse my mancave and have a couple of beers.

I take care, distance myself at this C19 time from my Thai friends having a beer, I'm 73 and have asthma so C19 could do me in but I don't think about it, what will be will be. 

6 hours ago, AndyAndyAndy said:

Without making any changes at all?

Are you washing your hands more frequently with soap and water for at least 20 seconds?