Texas Hospital Says Man, 30, Died After Attending a ‘Covid Party’

[ezzra]

A 30-year-old man who believed the coronavirus was a hoax and attended a “Covid party” died after being infected with the virus, according to the chief medical officer at a Texas hospital.

The official, Dr. Jane Appleby of Methodist Hospital in San Antonio, said the man died after deliberately attending a gathering with an infected person to test whether the coronavirus was real.

In her statements to news organizations, Dr. Appleby said the man had told his nurse that he attended a Covid party. Just before he died, she said the patient told his nurse: “I think I made a mistake. I thought this was a hoax, but it’s not.”

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/12/us/30-year-old-covid-party-death.html

[Pravda]

Don't Americans generously like to use the term Darwinism at work?

[ThaiPauly]

He just could not have got it more wrong

RIP fella

[Brunolem]

That's the whole point of a covid party...either you make it, or you don't!

 

Same as with a Russian Roulette party, but much less risky...

 

Americans have the covid party, Chinese have the communist party...to each his own fun...

Edited July 14, 2020 by Brunolem

[steven100]

Those damn COVID-19 parties ......  I'll stick to my naked romp orgy one's we do each week.

 

 

 

Edited July 14, 2020 by steven100

[cmarshall]

Do they still give out Darwin Awards?

[ThailandRyan]

Survival of the fittest and brightest.  Of course when you believe what someone tells you as gospel without doing your own research to confirm things it only leads down the road to the hospital or better yet the Morgue.  RIP young man

[Monomial]

This is probably one of the most balanced reports on this particular incident I have seen. Seems the NY Times still tries to uphold at least the appearance of journalism standards.

 

They put the words "Covid party" in quotes; admit there is no supporting evidence to attest that this was genuinely a Covid party; that in fact past reports of Covid parties have fallen apart; that the San Antonio health department said its contact tracers did not have any information “that would confirm" (editor added "or deny" in parenthesis) that such an event happened; that the family of the deceased declined to comment; and that the only source of information was the word of the chief medical officer.

 

I obviously don't think the chief medical officer made this up, but in my experience doctors often have selective hearing, especially when they have a passionate belief in wanting to get patients to act in a certain way. They tend to embelish...a lot in many cases. I can certainly believe the good doctor may have added some questionable details and color to the story in order to make a point she strongly believed in.

 

So this incident really does nothing to help any of us. Everyone knows this virus is not a "hoax", but that doesn't mean that the lockdown, close the borders and stay at home brigade is taking the right approach to dealing with this new predicament the human race is in. This is still a battle of different personal value systems, rather than any kind of genuine science.

 

[tifino]

 guess he abstractly assumed that it was the hoax that had gone viral 

[stouricks]

It doesn't mention whether he had underlying conditions, ie obese, diabetes etc. Seems strange that a 30 yr old dies from Covid.

[OneMoreFarang]

10 hours ago, ezzra said:

“I think I made a mistake. I thought this was a hoax, but it’s not.”

Now where did he hear about that hoax...

[geriatrickid]

15 hours ago, ThaiPauly said:

He just could not have got it more wrong

RIP fella

If the story is accurate, he  got it 'right'. The deniers are the people who are putting other people at risk of infection because of their refusal to act in a responsible manner. As such, every time one of these people dies, it protects  society as a whole and  may in fact save  others from possible injury and/or death.

 

12 hours ago, cmarshall said:

Do they still give out Darwin Awards?

Does it matter? He won't be around to   attend the  banquet and award ceremony, to enjoy and revel in the  well earned notoriety.

 

12 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Survival of the fittest and brightest.  Of course when you believe what someone tells you as gospel without doing your own research to confirm things it only leads down the road to the hospital or better yet the Morgue.  RIP young man

Why RIP?  He made his choice.  He certainly did not take into account the pain and torment of those his actions may have  injured, did he? Victims of Covid19 do not have much peace as they succumb to the effect of blood clots  drown in their own fluid. Yet, you wish  him peace.  How very kind you are.

 

5 hours ago, Monomial said:

Everyone knows this virus is not a "hoax", but that doesn't mean that the lockdown, close the borders and stay at home brigade is taking the right approach to dealing with this new predicament the human race is in. This is still a battle of different personal value systems, rather than any kind of genuine science.

 

No, everyone does not "know" the virus is not a hoax. Surely you have been reading TVF? Have you not seen the idiotic claims? If you watch the news from around the world you will see many people  claiming it is a hoax. Others insist it is  nothing, no worse than a seasonal flu etc. The President of the USA leads an attack on a decent man, Dr. Fauci and his legion of uneducated, angry parrot the claims. In case you missed it, the President of Brazil and some leaders of Africa have doomed their people to a certain death with their  positions. And then there is the man called trump.  As I watch the despair and death grip the land of the   hoax promoters, I know that they still refuse to accept that they were wrong.

 

5 hours ago, stouricks said:

It doesn't mention whether he had underlying conditions, ie obese, diabetes etc. Seems strange that a 30 yr old dies from Covid.

Not at all strange. One of the problems with the Covid19 management strategy is that in attempt to calm people and to avoid panic, there was a rush to "manage" the potential dangers, by identifying at risk groups.  After all, there was no benefit in allowing a population to be gripped by fear.  And the reality is that we were not all going to die or end up in a hospital, so life had to go on.

 

Unfortunately, as soon as the potential impact is mentioned, people shut down and panic. People want answers, they want finite parameters, so the at risk group strategy was used.

Yes, we can identify high risk groups, but the long term impact of the infection is still unknown. Every week delivers a new side effect or direct impact. Just because someone is elderly or has a chronic medical condition does not mean that person will die or end up in ICU. Many at risk people have survived and done relatively well. Their genetic makeup, history of vaccinations and medications, mental stability  and general activity may have all had a part to play.  Others who we were told were not at risk have  died, usually succumbing to blood clotting related disorders. Yes, we can sort some groups where there is an expectation, but it isn't exact. 

[cmarshall]

13 hours ago, stouricks said:

It doesn't mention whether he had underlying conditions, ie obese, diabetes etc. Seems strange that a 30 yr old dies from Covid.

Not if you understand the scope of the disease.  This is from an interview with Dr. Larry Brilliant, a specialist in pandemics:

 

So now we can begin to understand that this virus attacks the circulatory system, it attacks the vascular and nervous systems, it attacks the respiratory system, it attacks our ability to bring in oxygen. That’s why people can go to the hospital and be on their phone, not in any respiratory distress, but have oxygen saturation in the 50s, which in the old days we’d think of as you’re near death. It also makes you understand why you can get these Covid toes, why you can lose your sense of taste or smell, why you can have a stroke. This virus attacks blood vessels, it creates blood clots. That is probably one of the reasons why it causes strokes. We have a very large number of deaths due to kidney failure...

 

https://www.wired.com/story/larry-brilliant-on-how-well-are-we-fighting-covid-19/

[mommysboy]

4 hours ago, cmarshall said:

Not if you understand the scope of the disease.  This is from an interview with Dr. Larry Brilliant, a specialist in pandemics:

 

So now we can begin to understand that this virus attacks the circulatory system, it attacks the vascular and nervous systems, it attacks the respiratory system, it attacks our ability to bring in oxygen. That’s why people can go to the hospital and be on their phone, not in any respiratory distress, but have oxygen saturation in the 50s, which in the old days we’d think of as you’re near death. It also makes you understand why you can get these Covid toes, why you can lose your sense of taste or smell, why you can have a stroke. This virus attacks blood vessels, it creates blood clots. That is probably one of the reasons why it causes strokes. We have a very large number of deaths due to kidney failure...

 

https://www.wired.com/story/larry-brilliant-on-how-well-are-we-fighting-covid-19/

 

What is clear is that it's very difficult to get a sense of perspective regarding this virus.  

[cmarshall]

2 hours ago, mommysboy said:

 

What is clear is that it's very difficult to get a sense of perspective regarding this virus.  

Well, Covid-19 seems like other viruses like SARS and Ebola, about which scientists learn more with time.  SARS had a low infection rate, but a high fatality rate, and it only became contagious some time after the initial infection.  It takes a while to observe that.  The 1918 Flu virus was especially lethal to people in their twenties probably because the older and younger cohorts had experienced exposure to a closely related virus early in childhood resulting in limited lifelong immunity.  The cohort with the high fatality rate had been exposed to a different virus in early childhood and was therefore defenseless against the 1918 H1N1 variant.  This explanation was only reached a few years ago after nearly 100 years of study. 

 

So, Covid-19's peculiarities will be discovered over time, probably less time than other viruses because so many scientists are focused on it simultaneously.  

[innosiem]

where was the party?
who was the infected guest?
who were the other attendees?

proof of party or it didn't happen.

without any of this
it is just hearsay from a nurse
quoting a dead person who is unable to defend himself

[Blue Muton]

On 7/14/2020 at 6:42 PM, stouricks said:

It doesn't mention whether he had underlying conditions, ie obese, diabetes etc. Seems strange that a 30 yr old dies from Covid.

The only person I know who has contracted the desease is onr of the two or three fittest people that I know. In her thirties, into fitness, yoga and rock climbing. Confirmed as being infected in May and according to a FB update a couple of days ago is still suffering from the effects (although, fortunately not to the extent that she's hospitalised).

[shdmn]

On 7/13/2020 at 9:18 PM, ThailandRyan said:

Survival of the fittest and brightest.  Of course when you believe what someone tells you as gospel without doing your own research to confirm things it only leads down the road to the hospital or better yet the Morgue.  RIP young man

If that were true we wouldn't be still dealing with trumpkins.