Urinating at night

[Bangkokianbaba]

I have to urinate lots of time at night and I think my sleep is suffering because I am the whole day very dizzy and I don't have balance when walking. I am 78 so it should be "normal"! I got Firide 5 mg (Proscar) for it but it seems to take half a year before it start working! (?) I really am fed up because I cannot do anything anymore! Somebody can give me an idea for a solution? 

[tonray]

The solution would be to see a qualified urologist and get a professional assessment

[SteveK]

I would suggest a prostate transplant.

[OneMoreFarang]

Have you checked your blood sugar? Maybe you are a diabetic. Drinking lots of water is one of the symptoms. But obviously there could be many other reasons.

[ezzra]

Common occurrences in older men like 70 and older, sure, there are medicines and procedures that one can try, some works, other just postpone the inevitable that is aging is not kind to men...

[steven100]

78 yrs old is pretty darn good. Go see a doctor. Have a beer and relax.

[J Town]

I'm always amazed that anyone would ask a bunch of people like you & me for medical advice. Get thee to a doctor.

[mr mr]

track down some real cbd oil and take it before bed every night. not a solution by any means but it will help you in some areas. one possible help is  that it may allow you to sleep for a longer period of time before you are woken up needing to go.

[mokwit]

I would assume age/BPH but I would check this is not from a prostate or bladder infection - you could be lucky - if so it could be treatable with antibiotics.

[dlclark97]

It may not be something you would prefer to do but until you can get a professional opinion and some plan of permanent corrective action you could see a doctor to get a supply of single use, pre-lubricated catheters and training on inserting them to use before bed each night to empty your bladder.  It is easy, very little if any discomfort and highly effective.  Today there are many effective ways to manage this issue but the first step to take is see a urologist. 

[spiekerjozef]

Nice topic...

[ChakaKhan]

Sorry Im NOT a Doctor, tho I DO play one on tv......thai visa that is....take 2 and call me in the morning...

[stephenterry]

I would support consulting an urologist, and then be ready to undertake a PSI and urine test and go from there. A PSI score of >10 is an indication that the prostate gland needs investigation. Dizziness may not be a consequence of waterworks medication, and I would also suggest taking an ECG, as it's common for elderly people to suffer from arterial blockage. 

Top Urology Hospitals In Bangkok

1. Bumrungrad International Hospital
2. Vejthani Hospital
3. BNH Hospital
4. Yanhee Hospital
5. Sikarin International Hospital

Neither options are dirt cheap, but it's better for your longer term health, than hoping it will go away. It won't. 

   

[Bangkokianbaba]

10 minutes ago, stephenterry said:

I would support consulting an urologist, and then be ready to undertake a PSI and urine test and go from there. A PSI score of >10 is an indication that the prostate gland needs investigation. Dizziness may not be a consequence of waterworks medication, and I would also suggest taking an ECG, as it's common for elderly people to suffer from arterial blockage. 

Top Urology Hospitals In Bangkok

1. Bumrungrad International Hospital
2. Vejthani Hospital
3. BNH Hospital
4. Yanhee Hospital
5. Sikarin International Hospital

Neither options are dirt cheap, but it's better for your longer term health, than hoping it will go away. It won't. 

   

Thank you Stephenterry! I thought however, that the dizziness is because of nocturia! 

[colinneil]

1 hour ago, dlclark97 said:

It may not be something you would prefer to do but until you can get a professional opinion and some plan of permanent corrective action you could see a doctor to get a supply of single use, pre-lubricated catheters and training on inserting them to use before bed each night to empty your bladder.  It is easy, very little if any discomfort and highly effective.  Today there are many effective ways to manage this issue but the first step to take is see a urologist. 

I would disagree with you about catheters.Not a good idea even thinking about using catheters.Catheters need inserting under strict hygienic conditions, not just inserted by yourself.

UTIs can be very unpleasant, and can be caused by improper insertion, attempting to do it on yourself is crazy.

Now before you come back and tell me i am wrong, the amount of times i have been hospitalized with UTIs is far too many.

Edited July 29, 2020 by colinneil

[luckyluke]

I am 72, since a couple of years the same symptoms. 

I learned to live with it. 

The last thing I want is to see a doctor who will tell me to stop doing, eating, drinking all the things I like. 

[stephenterry]

1 minute ago, luckyluke said:

I am 72, since a couple of years the same symptoms. 

I learned to live with it. 

The last thing I want is to see a doctor who will tell me to stop doing, eating, drinking all the things I like. 

It will probably be the last thing you do, then...

 

 

[stephenterry]

10 minutes ago, Bangkokianbaba said:

Thank you Stephenterry! I thought however, that the dizziness is because of nocturia! 

I suffered similar symptoms. Last December while waiting for a hernia op, I had an ECG test - amongst many others - which resulted in identifying an aortic valve being partially calcified and preventing normal blood flow. I now take Vit K2/Vit D3 supplement which is (hopefully) clearing the arteries, and my dizziness is now minimal, if at all.

 

Not saying it's the same as yours, but better to be safe than suffer.  

[justmaybe]

Your body is telling you things even the most well-intended forum poster cannot. See a doctor.

[bkk6060]

For the sleep issue to avoid getting up, keep a large plastic container next to your bed and urinate in it.

This will avoid you getting up and being fully awakened by constant urination problem.

 

Do you sit a lot during the day?  If so I have found sitting for long periods can create your symptoms.

If I get up and about for a few days, play some golf, walk, I find myself needing to urinate less.

 

Also, can you ejaculate?  If so, do it as much as possible it is a medical fact (search it) that frequent ejaculation is good for the prostate and can possibly reduce the chances of P cancer.  I am in Pattaya with a little money so I do not need to masturbate much.  But, it is OK to masturbate everyone has/does it and it is good for you.

 

Good luck, hope you work through it.

 

  

Edited July 29, 2020 by bkk6060

[Pilotman]

As an older man, if I drink a lot of water before I go to bed, I tend to be up and down all night.  Best to stop drinking anything after say 5pm, bar maybe a coffee, which is a slight diuretic and contrary to popular myth, unless its an espresso, will not keep you awake. Seems to work for me. The other interesting phenomena, for me at least, is to have sex before sleep, that works too. 

Edited July 29, 2020 by Pilotman

[luckyluke]

35 minutes ago, stephenterry said:

It will probably be the last thing you do, then...

 

 

I will never advice someone to do as I do. 

But I never saw a doctor in the last 50 years. 

The last time I visit one, at 22, they took a kidney away. 

Now at 72, I still feel ok. 

Maybe I am not, but was is the purpose to know it. 

For me it is not important to live long, it is to enjoy live with all what it may offer. 

I don't want to live a couple years longer without the things I like. 

But we are all different. 

[Matt199]

I am 34 and I've been waking up 3-5 times a night in last 2 months. I got tested by an urologist few times for and undergone treatments. Finally, it came down to bacterial infection of prostate and 1 month of antibiotics. 

 

See a doctor. Could be anything

[lust]

Diabetes

[Saltire]

1 hour ago, Pilotman said:

As an older man, if I drink a lot of water before I go to bed, I tend to be up and down all night.  Best to stop drinking anything after say 5pm, bar maybe a coffee, which is a slight diuretic and contrary to popular myth, unless its an espresso, will not keep you awake. Seems to work for me. The other interesting phenomena, for me at least, is to have sex before sleep, that works too. 

Good advice not drinking after around 5 PM. As a Type 2 diabetic I used to have to go about 5 times a night. Now i drink lots of water mornings and afternoons to make sure I don't dehydrate and stop around 5 o'clock. Now I get up just 2 or 3 times a night which I can live with. I also stop eating around 4 or 5 pm which also helps your internal organs to rest. 8 hours sleep is achieved easily now.

[Bangkokianbaba]

2 minutes ago, lust said:

Diabetes

No, I tested my blood several times: round 95! 

[BritManToo]

4 hours ago, Bangkokianbaba said:

I have to urinate lots of time at night and I think my sleep is suffering because I am the whole day very dizzy and I don't have balance when walking. I am 78 so it should be "normal"! I got Firide 5 mg (Proscar) for it but it seems to take half a year before it start working! (?) I really am fed up because I cannot do anything anymore! Somebody can give me an idea for a solution? 

Firide 5 (aka Finasteride) is to stop your prostate getting any larger, it doesn't fix the problem.

Doxazosin is the drug that allows you to wee normally again by relaxing the blood vessels around the prostate..

[BritManToo]

4 hours ago, J Town said:

I'm always amazed that anyone would ask a bunch of people like you & me for medical advice. Get thee to a doctor.

Probably, because unlike you, some of us know what we're talking about.

[Bangkokianbaba]

15 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Firide 5 (aka Finasteride) is to stop your prostate getting any larger, it doesn't fix the problem.

Doxazosin is the drug that allows you to wee normally again by relaxing the blood vessels around the prostate..

Wow! One doctor gave me Firide and Doxazosin and another one told me not to take them together!

[BritManToo]

25 minutes ago, Bangkokianbaba said:

Wow! One doctor gave me Firide and Doxazosin and another one told me not to take them together!

Firide 5 mg MAY decrease the size of the prostate gland in patients of benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH). ... Firide blocks the enzyme responsible for the production of dihydrotestosterone and lowers the level of dihydrotestosterone, which is responsible for growth of the prostate.

 

Doxazosin is indicated for the treatment of urinary outflow obstruction and symptoms associated with benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH). Doxazosin may be used in BPH patients who are either hypertensive or normotensive. Doxazosin may be administered in the morning or the evening.

 

I take both, and have been for the past 18 months.

Finastreide 5mg every other day to inhibit Prostate growth (it doesn't appear to decrease the size of my prostate).

Doxazocin 6mg every evening to facilitate normal urination.

 

If I stop taking the Finasteride (aka Firide), it makes no immediate difference.

If I stop taking Doxazocin, 2-3 days later I have problems urinating again.

 

The doctor telling you not to take them together was incompetent, as it's perfectly normal to take both.

Finasteride may cause erectile dysfunction (I'm not suffering that effect)

Doxazocin may cause dizziness when standing up, and blocked nose (I'm not suffering those either)

 

When first taking Doxazocin you need to start at minimum dose 2mg, and work up in 1mg steps every two weeks until you can urinate normally (max 8mg). You also need to monitor your blood pressure when taking Doxazocin, as it lowers BP, in my case 6mg lowers my BP from 120/80 to 90/60 .... which is the level for me than enables normal urination.

 

Edited July 29, 2020 by BritManToo