10 hours ago, ChouDoufu said:

update for those interested....

 

next morning, about 18 hours after injection of the sinopharm vaccine -

 

thai girlfriend has a sore arm around the injection spot and is feeling a bit sleepy.  her (probably psychosomatic) dizziness went away after a couple hours.

 

hansum man has experienced no ill-effects and no soreness yet.

 

 

oh, and forgot to mention;  add no seafood for 3 days to the dietary restrictions following the vaccination.

 

Same as Pfizer one, then. My friend got vaccinated in US and reported sore arm and pain in the back for 2 days, starting 2nd day after first vaccine shot. Lasted 2 days and went away. No such effect after the second jab last week.

8 minutes ago, nickmondo said:

the OP is happy to receive an injection made in CHINA?????????

also, this vaccine has not been approved by WHO yet

up to him, but no Chinese Vaccine is coming within a mile of my arm!!!

Well, he lives in China. What is he supposed to get?

10 minutes ago, nickmondo said:

the OP is happy to receive an injection made in CHINA?????????

also, this vaccine has not been approved by WHO yet

up to him, but no Chinese Vaccine is coming within a mile of my arm!!!

 

well, to be fair, the WHO is accused of being controlled by china, so even with WHO approval the same folks would object.

41 minutes ago, Nanaplaza666 said:

Prof. Dr. Theo Schetters is the guy look him up and also an english guy Dr. Andrew Wakefield they have some interesting things to say . 

Andrew Wakefield was struck off for publishing fake reports on the MMR vaccine. Still a prominent anti vaxxer and conspiracy theorist. Dangerous guy.

If seafood,  spicy, or alcohol  effects this vaccines efficacy there will never be herd immunity in Thailand. 

1 hour ago, Nanaplaza666 said:

 I am following a dutch professor on immune and vaccines and he says that the best vaccine to use in europe is the gsk sanovi vaccine because its made in the traditional way by immune stimulating like the flu shot that we already have and that most of the others like BioNtech/pfizer are using DNA and mRNa vaccines wich could be dangerous for the human body in the future because of the way they work and (for info on how DNA and mRNA vaccines work look it up on the internet ) when injected in the body the proces of what they do in the body can never ever be reversed . He also says that there are some chinese vaccines that work the same way as the gsk sanovi vaccine wich is made in the traditional way and attacks the covid-19 in the way a normal flu shot does and those are tested and harmless to our bodies . Everybody can make of this what they want but i found that quit interesting to hear before just excepting any vaccine that is provided to you and maybe just wait till you have a choice on wich one you want to take . He also is talking about the inportance of vaccinating the whole worlds population and there is no real need to do that . Prof. Dr. Theo Schetters is the guy look him up and also an english guy Dr. Andrew Wakefield they have some interesting things to say . 

He's a bit of a nut case. 

 

He suggests vaccines are not necessary, the vaccine program in highly irresponsible. He says people are already immune. He claims mRNA and DNA vaccines are genetic engineering, and he knows better. He purposely says this to create alarm.

 

A fact. If mRNA / DNA vaccines are genetic engineering, then so are all the viruses you ever contract. Both cases create the same life saving immunity.  He knows this.

 

Factcheck  RNA Covid-19 vaccines will not change your DNA

 

 

 

10 hours ago, ChouDoufu said:

oh, and forgot to mention;  add no seafood for 3 days to the dietary restrictions following the vaccination.

 

I suppose bats are off the menu too ?

Guys who say "Covid has a 1% death rate, why worry?" would be knocking people down to be first in line if the vaccine had a 1% chance of making their dick bigger.

There is also nothing wrong with the old vaccines. If they work...

 

If you have side effects, it often shows they are working...

Former FDA chief says Covid vaccine side effects are signs the shot is building protection

 

So good news, the OP has reported his gf's vaccine is likely working! ????  

It is free maybe because you are one of their subject in phase 3?????

On 1/9/2021 at 4:28 AM, bkk6060 said:

No alcohol?

90% Falang here won't get it then.

And 98% of Thais!

If the efficacy data was good they would be publishing it for peer review. 
 

On 1/9/2021 at 5:43 PM, jvs said:

Good to hear you got the injection,i hope the rest of the world will follow soon

so the economy can get back on track.

Something for the conspiracy people,flu and vaccine comes from the same place!

 

 

     So , this injection has been tried and tested ,  for how long , by who .??

     Oh no ,, not the World Health Organisation .

      I will give this jab , a no thank you ..

 

Just now, elliss said:

 

     So , this injection has been tried and tested ,  for how long , by who .??

     Oh no ,, not the World Health Organisation , again ..

      I will give this jab , a no thank you ..

 

 

It’s good to have a thread where all the anti vaxers can gather, pity they don’t get together and infect themselves and spare the rest of us...

On 1/9/2021 at 4:29 PM, Liverpoolfan said:

It's not what you know, it's who you know ???? 

Suppose the rest of us will be paying through the nose to get our hands on one of those...

yes, and it'll just be saline injection too

 

5 minutes ago, elliss said:

         We can only life in hope . 

           Religion , gave up on that one , long time ago ..

1 hour ago, nickmondo said:

the OP is happy to receive an injection made in CHINA?????????

also, this vaccine has not been approved by WHO yet

up to him, but no Chinese Vaccine is coming within a mile of my arm!!!

You probably best off taking a vaccine that the WHO will not approve.....That would be the safest...

7 hours ago, Bob12345 said:

Turn on your bluetooth and see if you can connect with the chip you now got in your body ????

Also check how many Bitcoins you have mined for bill gates ????????????

On 1/9/2021 at 5:59 PM, Bender Rodriguez said:

good luck

He's in good hands as these guys are the experts.  They've been working on the vaccine for two years!

Frightening read from DM this morning. Dairy from a nurse

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9130463/As-mutant-Covid-strain-sweeps-UK-junior-doctors-diary-exposes-NHS-breaking-point.html

 

"We’re used to seeing people die, but not so many, so routinely.

Pre-Covid, I might have seen two or three deaths a week. Now it’s four or five a day"

The vaccine is so important

 

 

On 1/9/2021 at 10:35 AM, Crossy said:

Please note that our OP is NOT in Thailand.

 

Currently Thailand return requirements are the same vaccinated or not, 14 days quarantine in an approved facility.

 

This may change of course. 

Thanks for clarifying @Crossy

THAT possible change is the "mega-question" of course.

 

I, in UK hope to get vaccinated around March/April (I'm in the 5th group on the timetable) so if ASQ is dropped for vaccinated people, I could potentially start travelling again this spring.

However, until there is proof that vaccinated people are not potential carriers of the virus, I feel it unlikely that quarantine or other restrictions will be dropped anywhere.

 

I would SO love to be proved wrong on this one. ????

Congratulations on getting the first shot.

Looking forward to hear if any develop serious side effects from the vaccine, which i highly doubt.

Even if many don't like China i can't imagine they would try and release a product on the world market which is unsafe.

 

I'm waiting my turn here and hope for Pfizers or Modernas since i like the new Messenger RNA technology, which some also hope can be a way to treat cancer in the future, plus they have some of the highest reductions of all vaccines so far.

 

I'm not sure if Europe will allow Sinopharms vaccine, but why not if it's safe to use.

 

So far the ones Europe has bought/reserved are from

Pfizer, Moderna, Astra Zeneca, Sanofi, Curevac and Johnson & Johnson.

1 hour ago, polpott said:

Andrew Wakefield was struck off for publishing fake reports on the MMR vaccine. Still a prominent anti vaxxer and conspiracy theorist. Dangerous guy.

Can be but the dutch guy isn't an anti vaxxer even his own children are vaccinated but he says the same thing as the dutch guy in this .

1 hour ago, rabas said:

He's a bit of a nut case. 

 

He suggests vaccines are not necessary, the vaccine program in highly irresponsible. He says people are already immune. He claims mRNA and DNA vaccines are genetic engineering, and he knows better. He purposely says this to create alarm.

 

A fact. If mRNA / DNA vaccines are genetic engineering, then so are all the viruses you ever contract. Both cases create the same life saving immunity.  He knows this.

 

Factcheck  RNA Covid-19 vaccines will not change your DNA

 

 

 

He doesn't say the vaccines are not necessary he says it's not necessary to vaccinate the whole worlds population . Looking at the nr's of deaths and in wich groups people are dying . 

18 minutes ago, VBF said:

Thanks for clarifying @Crossy

THAT possible change is the "mega-question" of course.

 

I, in UK hope to get vaccinated around March/April (I'm in the 5th group on the timetable) so if ASQ is dropped for vaccinated people, I could potentially start travelling again this spring.

However, until there is proof that vaccinated people are not potential carriers of the virus, I feel it unlikely that quarantine or other restrictions will be dropped anywhere.

 

I would SO love to be proved wrong on this one. ????

 

Yep, the elephant in the room is that the vaccines give immunity but there is no evidence to suggest they stop you from carrying it or transmitting it. So don't expect the restrictions to be relaxed for the foreseeable future.

 

On 1/9/2021 at 11:23 AM, ChouDoufu said:

employer arranged for our vaccination, so no charge.  got the first jab this afternoon, next one in two weeks.

 

this is the sinopharm vaccine, developed with the wuhan institute of virology, produced by wuhan institute of biological products.  each 50ml vial individually wrapped with barcode for each vial scanned and attached to our file.

 

two injections, two weeks apart.  30 minutes observation required after each injection.  afterwards no alcohol or spicy foods for three days.

 

no side effects for me.  thai gf felt a little dizzy, but that is a common reaction for her anytime she gets an injection or gives a blood sample.

 

we will receive an official certificate with a lovely red stamp after the second injection.  she will contact the thai consulate in guangzhou next week and ask about renewing her passport and get an update on return requirements if one has been vaccinated.

 

Please keep us informed about the attitude of Thai immigration towards vaccinated people.

Hopefully they dismiss them from ASQ .

8 hours ago, ChouDoufu said:

 

no change in cellphone signal, but i did have the strange compulsion to sleep in the attic hanging by my ankles from the rafters.

I received the Vaccine of Pfizer. The side effects were harsh. can not sleep on my belly but on the other side, I am protected from falling of the bed

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Received the Moderna vaccine two weeks ago as I'm over 65 y/o and a registered nurse. When my wife, age 46, receives her 1st and 2nd vaccine, we will head to Thailand.