Now the other side of the Covid expat coin

[JTXR]

For a year I had friends in the U.S. telling me how envious they were of me.  COVID-19 raging everywhere  there and very little here.

Now, almost all my US-based friends in my age group are posting online about receiving their second Moderna or Pfizer jab, while here there's no telling when we'll even start.  How things can change....

[HampiK]

I think if Thailand would have the same amount of dead persons because of covid, maybe they would also be interested in faster ongoing.

 

But now even when your age almost all your friends received a shot, it's still more dangerous in US than here in Thailand. I am very impressed about how people always find something to complain. But of course it's the same as in the news.. nobody want talk about good things.. only always about something which they not like...

[dodgybros]

6 minutes ago, JTXR said:

For a year I had friends in the U.S. telling me how envious they were of me.  COVID-19 raging everywhere  there and very little here.

Now, almost all my US-based friends in my age group are posting online about receiving their second Moderna or Pfizer jab, while here there's no telling when we'll even start.  How things can change....

And you know they are the perfect answer how????

[Antonymous]

So, if living in fear of catching Covid for a year wasn't enough, now they've had to take an experimental vaccine. Sheesh, double whammy.

 

We are so lucky to be in Thailand. Tell 'em.

[internationalism]

well, so now time for you and them change countries.

would you swap?

[cmarshall]

So, the OP might have been better off in the US, unless Covid killed him.

[Kiujunn]

3 hours ago, JTXR said:

For a year I had friends in the U.S. telling me how envious they were of me.  COVID-19 raging everywhere  there and very little here.

Now, almost all my US-based friends in my age group are posting online about receiving their second Moderna or Pfizer jab, while here there's no telling when we'll even start.  How things can change....

I begin to have the same feeling. 

It's still much better here than in the West

 But if they let the mutants in via Burma, or if they accept "vaccinated" (which proof?) tourists or tourists who say they staid in "home quarantine" before traveling..(there is another thread about this)

If they let these into  an immunological naive Thai population,  we may still regret living here. 

And don't think that you get a vaccine in Thailand before 2022.

[KC 71]

14 minutes ago, Kiujunn said:

I begin to have the same feeling. 

It's still much better here than in the West

 But if they let the mutants in via Burma, or if they accept "vaccinated" (which proof?) tourists or tourists who say they staid in "home quarantine" before traveling..(there is another thread about this)

If they let these into  an immunological naive Thai population,  we may still regret living here. 

And don't think that you get a vaccine in Thailand before 2022.

MyanmarBorders are closed

[billd766]

5 minutes ago, KC 71 said:

MyanmarBorders are closed

There are more holes in the border than you will find in Gruyere cheese.

 

Most days on the other EL newspaper there are reports of illegal immigrants.

[impulse]

Another big difference is that most of the expats in Thailand don't have to go out and make a living every day.  Another way to say that is that most can't work in Thailand.  Unlike most of the folks we left back home.

 

If they could (and had to), the Thai restrictions would look a lot more onerous, as business after business closes down.

 

[mstevens]

Same situation here in New Zealand. The media here has made a big point of reporting how bad things are in the UK and the USA (and by definition, how lucky we in New Zealand are) but now we see that those same countries are vaccinating at speed while we just started vaccinating yesterday with 70 - yes, just seventy - people vaccinated. The rest of the New Zealand population can expect to get vaccinated some time over the next year - and that is assuming everything goes to plan. When the UK and the USA are travelling and enjoying full freedoms again, we'll still be stuck here.

[Puccini]

9 hours ago, billd766 said:

There are more holes in the border than you will find in Gruyere cheese...

You got your types of cheese mixed up but never mind, we would be off topic discussing this here. Go to the forum "Farang food" or whatever it is called for enlightenment.

[KarenBravo]

10 hours ago, billd766 said:

There are more holes in the border than you will find in Gruyere cheese.

 

Most days on the other EL newspaper there are reports of illegal immigrants.

 

Gruyere? I think you mean Emmental, also Swiss.

[faraday]

57 minutes ago, Puccini said:

You got your types of cheese mixed up but never mind, we would be off topic discussing this here. Go to the forum "Farang food" or whatever it is called for enlightenment.

 

Depends on whether it's French or Swiss. 

 

https://www.rfi.fr/en/europe/20121207-french-cheese-makers-can-make-gruyere-it-must-have-holes

 

But to keep on topic... I have no idea what the op is about.

 

Perhaps you can enlighten me? 

[sammieuk1]

Got my first jab last week but will never come back with the current restrictions and rinsing techniques employed by this rancid government it was never going to be anything different ????   

[KC 71]

14 hours ago, billd766 said:

There are more holes in the border than you will find in Gruyere cheese.

 

Most days on the other EL newspaper there are reports of illegal immigrants.

Oh the good old media.What would we do without em eh !

Considering the porous borders,and 2 other countries being less than 20 miles away,You would think people would be getting sick.Fortunately they are not.????

[tonray]

19 hours ago, JTXR said:

For a year I had friends in the U.S. telling me how envious they were of me.  COVID-19 raging everywhere  there and very little here.

Now, almost all my US-based friends in my age group are posting online about receiving their second Moderna or Pfizer jab, while here there's no telling when we'll even start.  How things can change....

Vaccine start or not....I've had virtually no restrictions on me as compared to the USA during this entire pandemic period. I travel, go out when I want, shop where I want, and with the exception of a few gym closings and one chair per table at restaurants...life is virtually the same as before. Absolutely cannot be said about life in the US where people are still squirelled away in their homes afraid to go out and about. 

[clokwise]

I've got mixed emotions about it. On one hand, my parents in the USA got the jabs already. I'm happy for them. On the other hand, there's no prospect if or when I'll be able to get the jab here in Thailand, and it may only be the useless Sinovac vaccine that is available.

 

I'm hoping there will soon be a consensus about vaccine certification for travelers allowing people to travel again without quarantine. Once that happens I'll take my chances and fly somewhere to get my jab, update my visa situation at the embassy while I'm at it, then fly back.

[cdemundo]

5 hours ago, Puccini said:

You got your types of cheese mixed up but never mind, we would be off topic discussing this here. Go to the forum "Farang food" or whatever it is called for enlightenment.

https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/glossary/gruyere-glossary

I think he had his cheeses right after all.

[DaLa]

10 hours ago, mstevens said:

Same situation here in New Zealand. The media here has made a big point of reporting how bad things are in the UK and the USA (and by definition, how lucky we in New Zealand are) but now we see that those same countries are vaccinating at speed while we just started vaccinating yesterday with 70 - yes, just seventy - people vaccinated. The rest of the New Zealand population can expect to get vaccinated some time over the next year - and that is assuming everything goes to plan. When the UK and the USA are travelling and enjoying full freedoms again, we'll still be stuck here.

 

Just 70?  Were all the sheep at the front of the queue?

[mikebike]

14 hours ago, impulse said:

Another big difference is that most of the expats in Thailand don't have to go out and make a living every day.  Another way to say that is that most can't work in Thailand.  Unlike most of the folks we left back home.

 

If they could (and had to), the Thai restrictions would look a lot more onerous, as business after business closes down.

 

You DO realize that the Thai population still goes to work, right? Why would a handful of expats working change the restrictions?

[billd766]

8 hours ago, Puccini said:

You got your types of cheese mixed up but never mind, we would be off topic discussing this here. Go to the forum "Farang food" or whatever it is called for enlightenment.

You got me thinking that I was wrong so I Googled cheese with holes in and one of the sites that came up was this one.

 

https://culturecheesemag.com/cheese-iq/style-highlight-swiss-cheese-with-holes/

 

Those holes in your cheese indicate a specific type of Swiss. This cheese’s proper name is Emmentaler because it originated in the Emmental region of Switzerland. Emmentaler is distinguished by extra-large holes and a unique flavor. So what in the world causes these gaps in your snack? They are due to a starter culture of bacteria added to the milk at the start of cheesemaking.

 

I thought that I was correct but I didn't check before posting.

 

What the name of the cheese was doesn't matter as it was about holes similar to the the holes in the border between Thailand and Myanmar.

 

[PGSan]

I thought ‘expat coin’ was something like bitcoin!  Doh! 

[PGSan]

16 minutes ago, billd766 said:

What the name of the cheese was doesn't matter as it was about holes similar to the the holes in the border between Thailand and Myanmar.

 

Not really.  The holes in Emmental  are completely surrounded by cheese, nothing gets through them.  

 

There is a great, and large, Emmental cheesery in Emmental: very much worth a visit when this is feasible.  

[PGSan]

2 hours ago, clokwise said:

and it may only be the useless Sinovac vaccine that is available.

Not more sinophobes, please! 

[PGSan]

3 hours ago, KC 71 said:

and 2 other countries being less than 20 miles away,

What countries, and 20 Miles from where?  ???

[KC 71]

4 hours ago, PGSan said:

What countries, and 20 Miles from where?  ???

Laos and Myanmar , from where i reside ! !!!

[billd766]

5 hours ago, PGSan said:

Not really.  The holes in Emmental  are completely surrounded by cheese, nothing gets through them.  

 

There is a great, and large, Emmental cheesery in Emmental: very much worth a visit when this is feasible.  

You are missing the point of my post entirely,

 

I am using Gruyere cheese as an analogy.

 

https://www.google.co.uk/search?sxsrf=ALeKk00PZdhQ_7U9c7EEXVM9MNnhUn34kA%3A1613908666958&source=hp&ei=ukoyYKerN9fvkgXy0ITQDQ&iflsig=AINFCbYAAAAAYDJYyjJa3gcsVX6J-bA0p95g9NzUA6eI&q=analogy+meaning&oq=anology&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAEYATIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjoECCMQJzoCCAA6CAguEMcBEKMCOgIILjoFCC4QkwI6BAguEApQ4xJYnSlg3z5oAHAAeACAAegIiAGgGJIBCzItMi4zLjEuNy0xmAEAoAEBqgEHZ3dzLXdpeg&sclient=gws-wiz

 

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[Ralf001]

13 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

Got my first jab last week but will never come back with the current restrictions and rinsing techniques employed by this rancid government it was never going to be anything different ????   

what rinsing techniques ?

[Badger18]

12 hours ago, clokwise said:

I'm hoping there will soon be a consensus about vaccine certification for travelers allowing people to travel again without quarantine. Once that happens I'll take my chances and fly somewhere to get my jab, update my visa situation at the embassy while I'm at it, then fly back.

Yeah the next issue on my radar is where I can go for the jab. I can go and get it in the UK sometime in May or June, but I'm only eligible for the AZ one and the way I see it that's going to be obsolete by about August anyway, so better to stay here if the situation stays the same. I can't see the US preventing the pharma companies selling to private hospitals once their population has been done, so maybe it will be possible to go there for the jab (as a non-US citizen, I mean). If they're going to be through by July that's really not that bad. If the Pfizer and Moderna jabs continue to hold up against new variants, there'll be a slack period once Europe and North America have been done, because there aren't any other large blocs that will spend the money, and boosters won't be due yet. In that scenario there could easily be supply for private hospitals in Thailand towards the end of this year.