1 hour ago, Scouse123 said:

 

It is the Sinovac vaccine, I think the guys in Cambodia  called it Sinopharm

2 different vaccines. 

Sinovac  from a private company whose reputation is not very good. 

Sinopharm from the state

3 hours ago, Mango Bob said:

For once someone is telling the truth here.  The government and it leaders failed the people.  You don't have the vaccine so you are having more deaths.  Someone should be charged with murder.  Get the vaccine here now and give jabs to everyone not only the Thai people but the foreigners who live here.  Nothing is said about them.  But they can die also,  But you do not seem to care.  This is first degree murder.

84% of the almost 600K American deaths could have been prevented according to Dr. Deborah Brix.  Trump has blood on his hands

'Thailand has utterly failed in vaccine rollout", says leading doctor

Will those responsible stand up and take the blame.....hell no.

regards worgeordie

1 hour ago, Scouse123 said:

I am in touch with quite a few people in Cambodia regularly.

 

Even young people in Phnom Penn are telling me they have had their vaccine! In PP, They tell me they are in complete lockdown and the police attack people with sticks who are outside without permission. They have brought in very stiff fines and penalties for lawbreaking and inter provincial travel has been stopped for a while now.

 

It is the Sinovac vaccine, I think the guys in Cambodia  called it Sinopharm, but they are getting the jabs!

 

So, they seem to be moving in the opposite direction of the all seeing eyes of Prayut and Co.

 

The man is an arrogant fool, who is way past his sell by date and now jeopardizing the nation's health due to his own narcissism.  

China is manufacturing 2 vaccines, Sinovac which Thailand has received, has the lower efficacy of the 2 at a little over 50%.

 

Sinopharm is better at about 75%

 

CP Group invested in the company making Sinovac, which is possibly one reason it was chosen over Sinopharm. 

Thats him, off to the Gallows 

26 minutes ago, realfunster said:

We are now entering a difficult time in Thailand. Vaccine procurement has been mismanaged and this is some way off.

A beg to differ slightly, it has been managed all the time, by the PM favouring Siam Bioscience to manufacture all of Thailands needs.

It had no intentions of buying millions of doses from overseas.

Otherwise your spot-on.

4 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

 

 

This chap will be transferred to an inactive post quickly I think. 

 

Do they still do "Attitude Adjestment"?

 

 

That's if he is lucky. Since 2014 there has been many disappearances

3 hours ago, petermik said:

the WHO vaccine as they thought they could do better themselves (brown envelopes aplenty) and look where it`s left them

Every decision made by the govt in this country is driven by one overriding thing (says looking upwards) and in this case it was deemed that having the country saved by Siam BioScience would be a PR victory over the protests which have obsessed the govt for the above reason.

Unfortunately they made a mess of that and the country is in the position it is in now as a result.  

4 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

 

 

This chap will be transferred to an inactive post quickly I think. 

 

Do they still do "Attitude Adjestment"?

 

 

 

Now that's funny.

I doubt they will be pushing Astrazeneca as their main vaccine from now on seeing as how the blood clot has been confirmed as one of the side effects by EU authorities.

10 minutes ago, EricTh said:

I doubt they will be pushing Astrazeneca as their main vaccine from now on seeing as how the blood clot has been confirmed as one of the side effects by EU authorities.

 

Really! The last I heard was that that the WHO and the EMA had endorsed the use of Astra Zeneca vaccines.

 

As I understand it, blood clots are a general medical occurrence, and vaccines cannot be directly associated with the incidences.

 

I wouldn't believe a word that comes out of the EU, in respect to anything related to this vaccine, considering their dispute with that company and their vindictive attitude towards the UK. It's odd though, how they champion the Pfizer vaccine that also has incidents of blood clots, don't you think?

4 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

Get rid of Anutin and make this man the minister of health.. At least someone who dare to speak out against this totally incompetent and stupid Government. Time to resign and get new elections

 

Having elections are pointless, as the government spent years re-writing the constitution to ensure the military would always have a leading role. The government is impossible to remove. As the many months of protests and blocking main roads by mostly young people has proved, by achieving absolutely nothing. Nothing at all. And people who remove a democratically elected government do not resign.

most truthful thing i have read in Thailand for years and years.

Let's put things into perspective how useless the so called government vaccine debacle is .The UK roughly the same population vaccinated 500,000 people  per day back in march. Now it's 116,000 per day. And here because they wanted to bend over to China and make the richest person even richer. They have a complete clusterfick 

How's the lunar launch plan going its been very quite ????

2 hours ago, ukrules said:

In the end I guess it doesn't matter. Most people will be vaccinated by next year some time and this will all be over.

 

The government have clearly done the sums and although they haven't come out and said it they appear to be accepting of the consequences of doing very little to contain the virus at a national level.

 

I can only surmise that all is going to plan and any losses are deemed acceptable, collateral damage if you will.

 

Hopefully you are right about most people being vaccinated sometimes next year.

 

Moderna's CEO is warning the market there may be surplus of vaccines next year:

 

https://www.xm.com/research/markets/allNews/reuters/moderna-ceo-says-world-faces-2022-covid-vaccine-production-surplus-42306032

 

"Next year there is going to be way too many vaccines for people on the planet," he said.

55 minutes ago, Tofer said:

 

Really! The last I heard was that that the WHO and the EMA had endorsed the use of Astra Zeneca vaccines.

 

As I understand it, blood clots are a general medical occurrence, and vaccines cannot be directly associated with the incidences.

 

I wouldn't believe a word that comes out of the EU, in respect to anything related to this vaccine, considering their dispute with that company and their vindictive attitude towards the UK. It's odd though, how they champion the Pfizer vaccine that also has incidents of blood clots, don't you think?

You may be right,  but the mass media perception building is a powerful thing.

 

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/healthcare-workers-cancelling-astrazeneca-jab-appointments-waiting-for-pfizer-20210422-p57lkq.html

 

What would the ordinary Australians think about AstraZeneca when reading that 80% of the health care workers are cancelling their AstraZeneca jab appointments?

 

4 minutes ago, gearbox said:

Hopefully you are right about most people being vaccinated sometimes next year.

 

Moderna's CEO is warning the market there may be surplus of vaccines next year:

 

https://www.xm.com/research/markets/allNews/reuters/moderna-ceo-says-world-faces-2022-covid-vaccine-production-surplus-42306032

 

"Next year there is going to be way too many vaccines for people on the planet," he said.

Which may explain the differing efforts to create doubts and suspicion of "competing" vaccines so as to maximize  profiteering potential in the current market demand?

Once a glut occurs then the vested interests will begin to lobby for exclusive patent or copyrights to secure a fading market as the "emergency use  only"approvals are reviewed !

 

 

Occasionally these wise men come to front and speak

2 hours ago, Kiujunn said:

3 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

 

It is the Sinovac vaccine, I think the guys in Cambodia  called it Sinopharm

2 different vaccines. 

Sinovac  from a private company whose reputation is not very good. 

Sinopharm from the state

 

Taken from https://www.raps.org/news-and-articles/news-articles/2020/3/covid-19-vaccine-tracker

4 hours ago, brucegoniners said:

So true. They have bought the worst vaccines and hardly anyone has received the ones they have. And private hospitals want to purchase the good vaccines, like Pfizer and Moderna and have not gotten permission. Now I have to literally risk my life to travel to the states next month to get vaccinated.

 

Oh and the US Embassy told me "your health care is completely up to you". Gee, thanks guys. Glad I pay those taxes every year!

The U.S. State Department has delivered COVID-19 vaccines to all of its eligible workforce deployed abroad as of Sunday and is expecting its entire workforce to have been fully vaccinated by mid-May, State Department officials said.

Have they failed or have they been waiting until a manufacturer offers the right 'inducements' to use their product? Perhaps give time for a Thai manufacturer to come forward! 

7 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

 

 

This chap will be transferred to an inactive post quickly I think. 

 

Do they still do "Attitude Adjestment"? 

 

They still do the "disappearing" activities, as they have historically.....

7 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

 

 

 

2 hours ago, EricTh said:

I doubt they will be pushing Astrazeneca as their main vaccine from now on seeing as how the blood clot has been confirmed as one of the side effects by EU authorities.

Oh yes they will, the blood clots are an irrelevance.

   Bravo to the doctor for speaking out.  If only more prominent Thais would do the same.  

5 hours ago, brucegoniners said:

So true. They have bought the worst vaccines and hardly anyone has received the ones they have. And private hospitals want to purchase the good vaccines, like Pfizer and Moderna and have not gotten permission. Now I have to literally risk my life to travel to the states next month to get vaccinated.

 

Oh and the US Embassy told me "your health care is completely up to you". Gee, thanks guys. Glad I pay those taxes every year!

Believe AZ is up around the efficacies of your so called ‘good’ vaccines. What is it with you yanks?

11 hours ago, YetAnother said:

'fiasco' is starting to define this government

starting?

Interesting table here showing number and rates of shots in various countries.  It also shows the number of days since vaccinations started.  Sort by doses per 100 ascending and you can see the countries lagging behind. 

 

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2021/health/global-covid-vaccinations/

8 hours ago, YetAnother said:

'fiasco' is starting to define this government

Don Fiasco is the head of the family. 

1 hour ago, mackayae said:

The U.S. State Department has delivered COVID-19 vaccines to all of its eligible workforce deployed abroad as of Sunday and is expecting its entire workforce to have been fully vaccinated by mid-May, State Department officials said.

Be nice if those A-holes thought maybe they are there to serve and protect Americans abroad, like it says in their mission statement. I wonder if "eligible workforce" includes the local hires? Would mean Thai nationals getting vaccine from US gov before US nationals, who pay for the stuff. It would not be all that expensive or difficult for USA to supply US embassies with enough J&J one shot vaccine to immunize us. They would even make the cost back in future income taxes. Dead Americans don't pay income taxes. Usually