Brit dad stuck in Thailand with cancer needs £88,000 a year to continue fight in the UK

[nobodysfriend]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

Andy Tracey, from Clapham, has found a 'wonder drug' that could extend his life by up to four years

And would this be a life worth living it ?

It may only extend his suffering by 4 more years ... I would not want this .

When it is time to go better go sooner than later ...

But I am not afraid of death .

I am afraid of suffering for a long time , with no hope to survive .

I hope that he had a life before .

 

Anyway , what ' wonder drug ' could this be ?

One that empties his bank account for sure ...

Edited April 27, 2021 by nobodysfriend

[Boomer6969]

For god's sake, if every patient who can't get access to some treatment, that is not yet reimbursed by his/her health insurance, would go on a "go fund me" there wouldn't be enough money in the world.

[tingtong]

Stage 4... have ever someone get back to healthy from there?

 

At some point must face the reality.

Make it painless, short.

I would want the same.

"Fight"...an illusion, too late to that.

And pointless to make the hospital rich, and/or family broke.

Sad but true.

 

[georgey]

6 hours ago, Boomer6969 said:

I have force myself to make abstraction of his tattoos, so that I can feel sympathetic.

 

Guess I am living in some parallel world, sorry.

Vey sorry for him, but have to agree with you re tattoos.....

[Scouse123]

1 hour ago, Andrew65 said:

It would seem that Steve Jobs refused some treatment that his doctors had recommended, which would have given him a better chance?!

 

 

Steve Jobs was arrogant and thought he knew better than the doctors.

 

Due to the delay caused by himself seeking out quack doctors and remedies, and non invasive options and alternative therapies led to a delay in treatment and any chance he had for survival or extending his life.

 

He said at the end, he wished he had listened to the doctors and those advising him and that his own pigheadedness was at fault.

[Janner1]

6 hours ago, simon43 said:

UK), my insurance cover stops and I join the NHS queue.

Please don’t make a derogatory remark against the NHS, 4 days ago I suffered a problem in my throat so I visited a small hospital in my city, the next day I saw my doctor and yesterday I had an appointment with ear nose and throat at the central hospital, sadly I have been given the bad news of throat cancer however my point here is that the NHS has been under immense strain because of Covid yet it took them just 4 days to rush me through the system and give me a diagnosis.

Sometime during the next two weeks I will receive an appointment for a body scan and biopsy with hopeful treatment to follow.The NHS has been immensely swift, understanding and caring and given me the will to fight this.

[Liverpool Lou]

There's a very important part in the Mirror's story...

He said,"I am responding well to this treatment and now have had the all clear on my scans so I'm free to go home"

[Scouse123]

A man is dying and clinging to hope and some on here don't want to dip into their wallets because he has tattoos?

 

What a sad uncaring bunch by some that we have on TVF. You compassionate souls must follow the theory of ' Beauty only being skin deep '

 

It would have been better to say you couldn't afford or better still to keep your mouths shut.

[Liverpool Lou]

5 hours ago, internationalism said:

I think not any 4 stage cancer is treated anymore, as it's too late, medicines or operation won't work. 

Only experimental treatments, a guinea pig, if any doctor takes him on, with a few months extension of life. Or organised medical studies on new drugs. 

He is lucky to have those treatments and very lucky to be still alive. Maybe misdiagnosis.

And there are no wonder drugs for any medical condition, but there are medical miracles - he already had one.

 

Read the link, he's had the all clear!

[Liverpool Lou]

5 hours ago, BritManToo said:

How selfish would you have to be, as an old man whose life is over, to expect others to give you 88,000GBP/year to live a little longer?

He's had the all clear, his life is not over.

[Ebumbu]

"stage 4 pancreatic cancer"

 

Only unicorn-horn oil is capable of curing that. Yes, very expensive. 

[Liverpool Lou]

3 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

When your numbers up...

...he's had the all clear.

[wprime]

6 hours ago, Phuketshrew said:

Poor guy. But he has not been forced to stay in Thailand. There have been many flights in and out since last March and I have many friends that have flown both ways.

 

If he goes back his travel insurance won't cover his treatment and nor does the NHS.

 

Anyways it sounds a bit like spending a fortune trying to keep a broken car running that should've been written off years ago. 88,000 pounds could save a lot more lives other ways.

[xtrnuno41]

Sorry, maybe harsh, but maybe consider it is the end and face it.

What would i do? Now thinking i would end it, but would i do if im there at that point? 

Like, said, palliative care and go to sleep. It is only the moment to it, but in it, you dont know anymore.

12 chemo's ?! , wow, also not so nice.

Extending life 4 years ? In agony, why? As it will be, no matter what.

I remember a college of mine, had colony cancer, they took it out , had stoma.

He was diagnosed clear of cancer at one point. Then it came back, very hard, very quick and died.

[Liverpool Lou]

28 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

I didn't read anywhere in the post that he is receiving "life saving" cancer treatment and medication in Thailand, just 12 rounds of chemo and that Medics have given him only months to live.

You didn't read that, either.  Doctors in Thailand gave him months to live, past tense, before his successful treatment, not "have given him months to live"

 

You didn't read this, either?...

"I am responding well to this treatment and now have had the all clear on my scans so I'm free to go home".

 

[Liverpool Lou]

12 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

A man is dying and clinging to hope and some on here don't want to dip into their wallets because he has tattoos?

He's not dying, he's had the all clear!   Read the link.

[tandor]

7 hours ago, clivebaxter said:

Seems like a decent guy, but might be more realistic to sort his will out than chase more fantasy treatments. 

...still has his hair..wears his oxygen tube under his chin..faking sleep...hmm!

[KarenBravo]

1 hour ago, Andrew65 said:

It would seem that Steve Jobs refused some treatment that his doctors had recommended, which would have given him a better chance?!

 

Yes, he dived down the rabbit hole of "alternative treatments". By the time he figured out that it was quackery and wanted to go back to standard treatments, the doctors said that it was too late.

[Andrew65]

13 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

He's had the all clear, his life is not over.

If he's had the 'all-clear', why is his story even an issue?

[barney42bb]

People, People People.....

 

You need to understand this poor man's immediate needs are way down the list of UK priorities.

 

The Welfare Bill was £192.4 Billion last year,an increase of over £8 Billion from the previous year.

 

The Workshy, Criminals, Drug Addicts,Foreign Aid and Illegal immigrants... Must be accommodated/funded before the genuinely needy.

[Liverpool Lou]

Just now, Andrew65 said:

14 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

He's had the all clear, his life is not over.

If he's had the 'all-clear', why is his story even an issue?

Exactly!   But, money, maybe?   Read the link where he says that he's had the all clear.

[colinneil]

35 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

He could have put on a shirt on for the photo and opened his eyes. 

It makes for better effect him lying like that, makes him look more pitiful, than if he had a shirt on, and sitting up eyes open

[BernieOnTour]

Not really a positive accessment for the NHS:

 

”It's been a blessing in disguise I was diagnosed in Thailand because I have been told

if I was in the UK I would have been given palliative treatment

so I would probably have been dead by now.”

[Millcx]

7 hours ago, simon43 said:

My (non-medical) knowledge of pancreatic cancer is that at stage 4, it is usually going to be 'lights out' pretty soon....

 

But his predicament does raise an interesting question.  He has medical insurance, which covers his medical bills when outside the UK, and his insurance company has been footing the medical costs.  But usually, such 'expat' insurance policies stop providing cover when you return to your home country, and he is now well enough to return to the UK.  If his Thai doctors said that he wasn't well enough to travel back to the UK, then presumably his insurance company would still pay his bills...

 

I have an expat policy which provides $1 million cover, but only when I'm outside the UK.  If I return to the country that I left 20+ years ago, (or I'm medivaced back to the UK), my insurance cover stops and I join the NHS queue.

 

 

My question is why he was stopped from leaving and flying home to UK ... I had to and did it ... Where is his family? 

[cardinalblue]

Didn’t know there was any wonder drug for pancreatic cancer to extend life?

 

my friend just died of it - his wonder drug was called morphine...

 

from diagnosis to death was 9 months...

 

 

[2009]

6 hours ago, Boomer6969 said:

I have force myself to make abstraction of his tattoos, so that I can feel sympathetic.

 

Guess I am living in some parallel world, sorry.

 

You have no integrity, respect, or class.

[Ventenio]

He's got the Thai tattoos........i say make him an honorary citizen.

 

always wondered how those tats look when you get older.  

 

the world has cash.  hopefully he gets some.

 

this 88k pounds a year......on average, how many years are we talking?

 

i've never met a falang in thailand that i thought would give me money if i was down and out...

 

prove me wrong TVF.....quit posting and start giving!!!!!  lol

 

[Pattaya Spotter]

29 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

...he's had the all clear.

Guess his numbers not up...good for him.

[Scouse123]

18 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

He's not dying, he's had the all clear!   Read the link.

 

I read it and I don't believe all of it and newspaper and online reporting over here many times can get lost in translation .

 

The treatment might be holding it at bay at the very best and stopping it spreading, pancreatic cancer is up there with the worst types and it is well known that by the time you know you have got it, it is already too late.

[riverhigh]

 

 

Before giving money to Mr. Tattoos money I would like to know how much moeny he inherited form his parents when they died, how much severance pay did he get when he quit his furniture business in London, how much did the UK government pay him to look after his parents, etc.  Is he is trying to get us to pay for his bills rather than spending his sons' inheritance?   Isn't it convenient that he gets diagnosed with final stages of cancer shortly after he gets off the plane in Thailand and happens to have good travel insurance? Are we sure he didn't have any pains before leaving the UK and decided not to go to a UK hospital. Sorry Mr. Tattoos, you may be the real deal but with all the fraud artists floating around I have my doubts. I appologise in advane to those who may find my remarks offensive but ....