Thailand reports 2,044 new coronavirus cases, 27 new deaths

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, anchadian said:

 

Sputnik V should be approved for use in Thailand next month: FDA

The reason Russia’s Sputnik V vaccine has not been registered for use in Thailand is because the importer Kingen Biotech Ltd has not yet submitted full documentation for registration, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) said on Friday.

Thats all we need, they've not submitted the data to WHO yet either.

[Pattaya Spotter]

48 minutes ago, Fex Bluse said:

Thailand has a STRONG incentive to underreport. Haven't you seen the incessant pleas to lure tourists back - even before it's safe to do so? A massive chunk of Thailand's economy is virtually shut down.

I would argue that's a strong incentive to report the numbers honestly...do you think the Chinese, their largest and most important market, are going to allow their nationals to return if they suspect any fudging of the numbers. 

[2 is 1]

47 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

The Chonburi active case findings numbers are published daily, along with other significant data. 
 

Do you think the Chonburi data is fake?

Nothing fake in Thailand! Even nice Louis Vuitton bag what i buy from market whit 600 bth! Have to be real deal because its illegal to sell fake's in LOS!

[Rampant Rabbit]

6 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

A very tenous issue Covid has become.  Life without knowing, because of no mass testing, yet the numbers hover in the 2k area and continue in line with double digit deaths.  

Has any other country had figures  like this, always  seeming to sit at 2k, everywhere else it seems to go up in multiples way  higher.

[Guderian]

It had to happen, rats deserting the sinking Thai ship, lol...

 

From today's Times:

 

[Olmate]

4 minutes ago, Guderian said:

It had to happen, rats deserting the sinking Thai ship, lol...

 

From today's Times:

 

Sheez your quick! 

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

Has any other country had figures  like this, always  seeming to sit at 2k, everywhere else it seems to go up in multiples way  higher.

I'm sure theres a couple of examples but agreed its not the norm. Indicative of a testing capacity limit. It should be either rising steadily or decreasing steadily.

 

The only good example to compare is the UK when this variant first emerged, the figures rose steadily and the only thing stopping it was the severe lockdowns and vaccines. 

 

Before those lockdowns in the UK however there was minimal measures in place, no widespread mask wearing so it took off quicker, I think the fact that those measures are in place here together with the other measures they have will likely mean the increase will not be as dramatic as it was in the UK but still be bad enough unless they do a full lockdown to stop the worst.

 

I'm guessing though.

[thasoss]

5 hours ago, Surelynot said:

5 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

our herd immunity belief is being disproven in India.

 

 

How is that the case?

India's incredible infection rate is probably due to too many people living too close together,in slum conditions plus poor sanitation and poor hygiene 

[anchadian]

https://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-adds-krabi-trang-to-red-zone-entry-requirements-79927.php

Friday 7 May 2021, 12:38PM

 

Phuket adds Krabi, Trang to ‘red zone’ entry requirements

 

PHUKET: Phuket officials have added Ranong, Krabi, Trang and Phatthalung to the list of ‘red zone’ provinces for which people arriving from must comply with the requirement to prove that they are fully vaccinated or have tested negative for COVID-19 within 72 hours of arriving, or else face a rapid antigen test as an initial step to determine whether or not they are infected.

[Cake Monster]

6 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Pretty obvious they are struggling to contain this, with numbers this high its playing catch up all the time, contain one cluster only to fight another and another and this logically leads to further spread until its completely ravaged Bangkok and into Provinces.

 

Not sure how many rapid tests are being used, nobody does apart from them but like the Samut Sakhon outbreak and locking up the migrants, we just never got hear hear of the true positive count, it was all hidden. I suspect this may be happening right now in the slum communities, straight into quarantine or field hospital with no official count for a proportion of them.

 

The huge field hospitals now being erected in Bangkok with ICU facilities would be a perfect place for the serious victims from the slums and migrants. Out of sight, out of mind for the officials.

 

The only way to have any hope to curb this is mass testing, not Thailand's version of mass testing but real mass testing. Identify the true scale of the problem so you know what you have to do. In the meantime there should be no other alternative than to have a complete lockdown to act as a circuit breaker, even if only for a couple of weeks.

Whilst I agree with you on the issue of mass testing, that is never going to happen.

The main reason being that the Government see the people in the Slums such as Klong Toey as not being of asset value to the Nation due to their poor status.

How wrong they are, these people are the backbone of any City.

The Government attitude will be  "why waste good money on them " when we need to keep our powder dry for the people that generate the Countries wealth.

The same mind set was applied to the Migrants in Samut Sakon.

[Bkk Brian]

191 COVID-19 infections have been found so far in Bangkok’s Bang Khae district, through proactive screening, in a new cluster traced to a shopping mall in the area, according to City Hall.

 

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/191-covid-19-infections-found-in-new-bang-khae-cluster/

[Cake Monster]

8 minutes ago, thasoss said:

India's incredible infection rate is probably due to too many people living too close together,in slum conditions plus poor sanitation and poor hygiene 

What 

You mean just like Klong Toey 

[TaoNow]

1 hour ago, Fex Bluse said:

 

How do you know Chonburi is extensively tested every day? Are you part of the testing effort or have you simply chosen to believe something you've been told? That's your answer. ????

 

1. The Thai infrastructure is largely incompetent. I don't think anyone would genuinely be surprised by this -- especially anyone who has lived here for long.

 

2. Thailand has a STRONG incentive to underreport. Haven't you seen the incessant pleas to lure tourists back - even before it's safe to do so? A massive chunk of Thailand's economy is virtually shut down. Previously (and obviously dishonestly) reported to be 9% of GDP but recently admitted to be well over 20% (which is still too low).

 What is the basis for your assertion that "Thai infrastructure is incompetent"?  I've lived here for 40 years and worked inside the Ministry of Public Health.  I'll tell you one thing about Thai testing capability:  During the HIV epidemic here, Thailand did more testing for HIV per capita than any other country in the world.    They had national sentinel surveillance and mass screening of pregnant women and army recruits around the country.     I am sure they are applying their testing skills to Covid-19 as well.  What is your experience?

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, TaoNow said:

 What is the basis for your assertion that "Thai infrastructure is incompetent"?  I've lived here for 40 years and worked inside the Ministry of Public Health.  I'll tell you one thing about Thai testing capability:  During the HIV epidemic here, Thailand did more testing for HIV per capita than any other country in the world.    They had national sentinel surveillance and mass screening of pregnant women and army recruits around the country.     I am sure they are applying their testing skills to Covid-19 as well.  What is your experience?

Its not about their capability or skills but they have already admitted they can't afford to do enough mass testing.

Edited May 7, 2021 by Bkk Brian

[anchadian]

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/covid-19-vaccines-the-hot-topic-for-anutin/

 

“There is no challenge”, responded Thailand’s Public Health Minister, Anutin Charnvirakul, when asked by Thai PBS World what he thinks is the most challenging factor in the latest wave of the COVID-19.

 

[Neal182]

True numbers of deaths from covid can be hidden or under reported. Mexico admitted deaths were under reported by at least 60%. Russia also said the true death toll was likely 2/3 more than official tally. Thailand can do the same. Where is the truth with any numbers? Tests, cases and deaths. Who really knows? Only the people who are in the know. 

[FarFlungFalang]

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Its not about their capability or skills but they have already admitted they can't afford to do enough mass testing.

If I remember correctly I think they said it was too expensive not that they couldn't afford it.Same like when I buy something, although I can afford it if I think it's too expensive I won't choose that option.Thailand seems to have chosen the option that best fits it's 104th ranking for transparency and corruption.

[anchadian]

1 hour ago, anchadian said:

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40000637

 

Over-60s in Thailand to get Sinovac vaccine

 

 

China’s Sinovac vaccine will be administered to people aged over 60 in Thailand, said Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul after presiding over a National Communicable Disease Committee meeting on Friday.

 

The committee also approved minimum fines of THB1,000 for not wearing a face mask in public.
 

Thai PBS World

 

@ThaiPBSWorld

 

 

People aged 60 or over in Thailand now have the option of having the Chinese-made Sinovac, instead of just AstraZeneca’s vaccine, in a sudden change of policy by the NCDC. https://thaipbsworld.com/over-60s-in-thailand-to-have-option-of-sinovac-vaccine-not-just-astrazeneca/

 

 

Edited May 7, 2021 by anchadian

[anchadian]

8 minutes ago, anchadian said:

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/covid-19-vaccines-the-hot-topic-for-anutin/

 

“There is no challenge”, responded Thailand’s Public Health Minister, Anutin Charnvirakul, when asked by Thai PBS World what he thinks is the most challenging factor in the latest wave of the COVID-19.

 

Anutin pointed out that people who get infected or are related to them will, of course, say the rollout is too slow.

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Not correct Anutin, the whole of Thailand is saying the rollout of vaccines is too slow.

[TaoNow]

18 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Its not about their capability or skills but they have already admitted they can't afford to do enough mass testing.

 

Mass screening would not be efficient or purposeful.  Besides, what other country has tried to test a large segment of their population for Covid-19?

 

If they wanted to know the prevalence of Thais who had been exposed to Covid-19, they could do a national point prevalence survey of, say, 5,000 folks.  But there is nothing practical you can do with that information.

 

Instead, I think the preferred strategy is to ramp up testing in communities where there is a high test-positivity rate to try to corral spread.  Which is what they seem to be doing now.

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Data released by the Ministry of Public Health on Friday shows the current COVID outbreak in Thailand has largely concentrated around Bangkok and two adjoining provinces, along with some pockets in the south, while much of the rest of the country has few to no cases.

 

The MoPH data shows that only three of Thailand's 77 provinces -- Bangkok (869), Nonthaburi (201) and Samut Prakan (165) -- recorded more than 100 new COVID cases on Friday. In contrast, the MoPH said nine provinces reported no cases whatsoever and another 42 provinces reported 10 or fewer cases.

 

At least for the time being, if the officially reported numbers are any reasonably accurate representation of what's occurring in outlying rural provinces, the latest data seems to suggest that the recent Song Kran holidays, when many local residents traveled back home from Bangkok, has not yet led to any major, ongoing outward spread of infections. In fact, the graphic below seems to show infections in outlying areas dropping during the past week as the green/low case areas expanded.

 

 

Besides the top three provinces for new cases, the only other three provinces with more than 50 cases reported on Friday were Chonburi (89), the beachside province that includes Pattaya,  central province Samut Sakhon (69), and Surat Thani (60) in the south.

 

Twenty other provinces, mostly in the central region surrounding Bangkok and in the south of the country, reported between 11 and 50 new cases for the day.

 

As an example of the above, two other areas with larger populations, Chiang Mai and Prachuap Khiri Khan including Hua Hin, had both reported large COVID outbreaks with high daily case counts in recent weeks. But on Friday, Chiang Mai reported just 33 and PKK 27.

 

https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/photos/a.106455480972785/320484032903261/

 

[Bkk Brian]

13 minutes ago, TaoNow said:

 

Mass screening would not be efficient or purposeful.  Besides, what other country has tried to test a large segment of their population for Covid-19?

 

If they wanted to know the prevalence of Thais who had been exposed to Covid-19, they could do a national point prevalence survey of, say, 5,000 folks.  But there is nothing practical you can do with that information.

 

Instead, I think the preferred strategy is to ramp up testing in communities where there is a high test-positivity rate to try to corral spread.  Which is what they seem to be doing now.

 

 

You should check the testing rates of other countries before you ask which other ones are testing more of their populations.

 

Added to that you have hospitals refusing to take pcr tests because of a lack of beds, labs doing the same, other non registered labs not even passing on positive results. 

 

Ramping up tests in hotspots is logic, that does not need saying but thats the reactionary approach.

 

The problem is all the people, over 1,800 of them today presenting themselves in hospitals and being found positive, this is throughout the country.

 

More testing is required everywhere not just hotspots, to prevent further hotspots.

Edited May 7, 2021 by Bkk Brian

[Bkk Brian]

31 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

If I remember correctly I think they said it was too expensive not that they couldn't afford it.Same like when I buy something, although I can afford it if I think it's too expensive I won't choose that option.Thailand seems to have chosen the option that best fits it's 104th ranking for transparency and corruption.

Yea i remember that. 2000 baht per pcr test. Looks like their decision has not paid dividends

[TaoNow]

7 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

You should check the testing rates of other countries before you ask which other ones are testing more of their populations.

 

And India is testing 300,000 to 400,000 persons a day:  How is that helping them to contain the hot spots?

 

Which countries are testing at a level you think is appropriate?

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Daily province by province report of new COVID cases from the Ministry of Public Health. If a province is not listed below, that means it didn't have any new cases to report for the day:

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10157999732392050

 

 

Edited May 7, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, TaoNow said:

 

And India is testing 300,000 to 400,000 persons a day:  How is that helping them to contain the hot spots?

 

Which countries are testing at a level you think is appropriate?

You use India as an example? Its also testing far more than 300-400k a day, thats just the number of positive tests. I thought you worked for the MoPh before?

 

Try the UK or US. For a comparative figure the UK has around the same population.

Edited May 7, 2021 by Bkk Brian

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

49 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Thai PBS World

 

@ThaiPBSWorld

 

 

People aged 60 or over in Thailand now have the option of having the Chinese-made Sinovac, instead of just AstraZeneca’s vaccine, in a sudden change of policy by the NCDC. https://thaipbsworld.com/over-60s-in-thiland-to-have-option-of-sinovac-vaccine-not-just-astrazeneca/

 

 

 

 

So this version of this news, somewhat different than the prior version, makes it sound like at least Thais over 60 will have a choice between the AZ and the Sinovac vaccines -- not that they'll be forced to only take the Sinovac vaccine. Presumably, if that's in fact the case, the same options would be given to over 60 age foreign nationals when their time comes.

 

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, Excel said:

Currently they can not contain the epidemic, why do you say they can ? If they could contain it then there would be no outbreaks outside already infected areas. Almost weekly they find "hot spot" in different locales so to say they can contain it is a nonsense like almost all of your posts on this subject.

“Containment” means flattening the curve, stopping the spread, whatever you want to call it, so they can eliminate the hotspots.

[onthedarkside]

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[Bkk Brian]

51 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Anutin pointed out that people who get infected or are related to them will, of course, say the rollout is too slow.

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Not correct Anutin, the whole of Thailand is saying the rollout of vaccines is too slow.

Didn't he say this was going to be under control in 2 weeks, that was 4 weeks ago?

 

So now his latest.............lol

 

“The ministry of public health always tells the truth, in terms of facts and figures. The ministry has never reported a false number of infected people. Our aim is still to control the situation within the next few weeks, and in accordance with the arrival of vaccines. We hope that things can only get better.”

 

Looks like he's now saying it will be another few weeks before its under control.

 

I agree with him however we all hope it will get better with the arrival of vaccines.