Pattaya A Dead or Dying City?

[The Hammer2021]

The city is very busy. Threpasit market is really busy...The roads  are busy.  The night life venues are empty and closed

[Jackson B]

What is the quarantine situation for farang visitors from Bangkok? Can I come for a day or two? Or is there a 14-day quarantine as I have read in the papers? Are there checkpoints to show residency papers, or what? Are any hotels operational? Thanks for local reliable advice.

[newnative]

1 hour ago, The Hammer2021 said:

The city is very busy. Threpasit market is really busy...The roads  are busy.  The night life venues are empty and closed

And, the Darkside is busy.  Partner and I went to eat at our favorite restaurant on the Darkside and the waiting list for a table was so long we decided to go to another restaurant, instead.  

[petermik]

9 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said:

The city is very busy. Threpasit market is really busy...The roads  are busy.  The night life venues are empty and closed

Which "city" are you referring to...not here in Pattaya for sure.

[champers]

2 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

 

So the hundred of tourists buses were empty ?

Of course not but the fact still remains that there were more independant travellers to the city. Why do you think TAT and the Government have them down as a target market?

[Ralf001]

8 minutes ago, champers said:

Of course not but the fact still remains that there were more independant travellers to the city. Why do you think TAT and the Government have them down as a target market?

 

Righto, so all the tourist buses were Chinese tourists traveling independently.

 

Cough cough bullsheet cough cough.

[Susco]

2 hours ago, johng said:

 

There was still one tank  set in the wall ( right hand side near the  "world time" clocks)  last time I went in there.

perhaps the guy who ran the aquarium shop  didn't want or couldn't maintain them any more ?

 

 

 

Have you noticed how many of the fish supply shops have closed in the past months.

 

I don't know what the reason is, but majority of the shops i knew about, are now not there any more

[jacko45k]

14 hours ago, Leaver said:

 

Do you have a link for this.  I find it hard to believe, given the hundreds of coach buses full of Chinese that were around Pattaya, pre covid.  

It is possible that many hundreds of thousands were spread around the resorts of Thailand, but hard to see and imagine for us here seeing the crowds being frequently herded down Walking Street, who would appear unable to handle anything independently. 

[Leaver]

17 hours ago, champers said:

Plenty of data from TAT available online; Goggle is your friend.

 

A quick Google revealed around 11 million Chinese came to Thailand in 2019.  This is also the figure seen in media reports.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Thailand

 

Finding something on Google that showed how many of the 11 million were FIT's wasn't as easy.

 

I did find this article on the first page of Google, which is Pattaya related.

 

using the averages of his figures, that's 275 and 2500, that would mean FIT Chinese make up only 11% of his Chinese market, which is 1 in every 10 Chinese customers.  

 

Nowhere near a majority.

 

https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/society/article/2185336/pattaya-new-breed-chinese-tourist-emerges-meet-fits

 

"Despite Chavalit’s confidence that his business model is the way of the future, group tours still account for the overwhelming majority of mainland visitors to Pattaya. He says he gets between 200 and 350 Chinese FIT customers depending on the season, whereas the big tours bring in 2,000 to 3,000 Chinese visitors a day."

 

[johng]

19 hours ago, Susco said:

 

 

Have you noticed how many of the fish supply shops have closed in the past months.

 

I don't know what the reason is, but majority of the shops i knew about, are now not there any more

 

No I haven't specifically  noticed  aquarium shops closing amongst the  huge number of other shops/business which are closed,  I would imagine that hotels,condos and restaurants would have counted for a large part of their sales  prior to the Covidiocy.

 

I think the one on South Pattaya road near the Mosque is still open ?

[thaibeachlovers]

On 6/4/2021 at 8:20 PM, champers said:

Plenty of data from TAT available online; Goggle is your friend.

You actually believe TAT data?

 

[thaibeachlovers]

On 6/4/2021 at 11:13 PM, champers said:

Of course not but the fact still remains that there were more independant travellers to the city. Why do you think TAT and the Government have them down as a target market?

Why do you think TAT and the Government have them down as a target market?

 

Because they daydream all day and come up with fairy tales. I can't remember when they last told the truth.

 

 

[Olmate]

3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

You actually believe TAT data?

 

Do have any links to the contrary? 

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, Olmate said:

Do have any links to the contrary? 

No, but I know what I saw.

[ExpatOilWorker]

[EVENKEEL]

15 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

Thanks for the laugh.

[Leaver]

On 8/21/2021 at 9:02 AM, ExpatOilWorker said:

 

So many of these around and they are all funny.  

[tomyami]

even if I had a place in pattaya it would be the last place on earth i would stay, feel sorry for those who believe the lockdown will achieve anything, but if makes you happy you are allowed breath the air but in reaility they are in a foreign prison. I wonder do these sad lives still have passports?

 

Sun spitting the trees here in Lanszarote everyone happy, can go eat, drink or shop, no police or even mask restriction.

[ChipButty]

52 minutes ago, tomyami said:

even if I had a place in pattaya it would be the last place on earth i would stay, feel sorry for those who believe the lockdown will achieve anything, but if makes you happy you are allowed breath the air but in reaility they are in a foreign prison. I wonder do these sad lives still have passports?

 

Sun spitting the trees here in Lanszarote everyone happy, can go eat, drink or shop, no police or even mask restriction.

Any Russian birds there?

[tomyami]

15 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

Any Russian birds there?

A few, but lots of hot south americans its no what pattaya was in the past but it is miles ahead (totally unrestricted) of its present, apart from accomodation everything else is as cheap with better service 

[Leaver]

3 hours ago, tomyami said:

even if I had a place in pattaya it would be the last place on earth i would stay, feel sorry for those who believe the lockdown will achieve anything, but if makes you happy you are allowed breath the air but in reaility they are in a foreign prison. I wonder do these sad lives still have passports?

 

Sun spitting the trees here in Lanszarote everyone happy, can go eat, drink or shop, no police or even mask restriction.

 

To be fair, many cities in many countries were locked down, with many deaths, last year.  We all saw the grim news footage. 

 

There were points in the covid time line where we were still partying in Pattaya, while many countries were locked down, with the people suffering. 

 

The shoe is on the other foot now.    

[Harsh Jones]

16 hours ago, tomyami said:

even if I had a place in pattaya it would be the last place on earth i would stay, feel sorry for those who believe the lockdown will achieve anything, but if makes you happy you are allowed breath the air but in reaility they are in a foreign prison. I wonder do these sad lives still have passports?

 

Sun spitting the trees here in Lanszarote everyone happy, can go eat, drink or shop, no police or even mask restriction.

Yeah yeah. Join a Lanszarote forum then.

 

There is sure a lot of "grass is greener over here" tropes in the Pattaya threads. Im tired of hearing it.

 

Pattaya is not a dead or dying city and wont be for the foreseeable future. It is a natural boom town. Fortunes have been made there and fortunes will be made again.

[Leaver]

On 8/23/2021 at 10:46 AM, Harsh Jones said:

Pattaya is not a dead or dying city and wont be for the foreseeable future. It is a natural boom town. Fortunes have been made there and fortunes will be made again.

 

No mention of the fortunes lost, and The Pattaya Balcony Jumping Club?