COVID-19: Thailand reports 51 more deaths and 3,174 new cases

[ICELANDMAN]

19 minutes ago, Blumpie said:

That's ICU beds.  ICU's treat critically sick patients.  If you get in aa car accident, motorcycle accident, etc.  They are not "beds".  They are specialized centres.

What happens when ICU's are full?

Surgeries start to get cancelled.  Have cancer and need an operation?  Maybe it gets postponed.  Need emergency surgery?  not going to happen.

It's serious.  

 

You are completely right, you know of some cases that died due to lack of assistance for Covid and I am convinced that the deceased in this last year and a half have many tens thousands of hidden cases in Thailand, which is very serious for doctors to conduct themselves against the Hippocratic oath. . The profession is getting closer and closer to charlatans.

 

 

[ThailandRyan]

14 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

FWIW, the baht is sinking this week. No idea if it’s just random movement or is connected to the increased numbers of cases.

It is linked to the US feds possible action to increase rates as the US economy is picking up steam as they are emerging from the back side of the covid devastation, however it may not happen unless inflation kicks up.  There is also an article in the paper we can not link to about it.

[wensiensheng]

5 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Does anyone know how difficult it would be to increase ICU capacity in Thailand.

I'm familiar with Oz but no idea re Thailand

 

I’m only guessing, but I imagine an incremental increase would be fairly easy. Equipment would be in stock and there is probably some empty space where beds could be placed.
 

and then you could free up space by ditching normal beds for icu stuff. Might not be a top notch icu environment, but above that of normal beds. 
 

But other than that, I’d say you hit a ceiling without building new wards completely or cannibalising existing wards. Those would take some time.

[wensiensheng]

50 minutes ago, Excel said:

What's happened to all those field hospital camps ? 

I think the internment camps are meant for asymptomatic and non severe cases.

 

I assume there are too many severe cases, resulting in this proper hospital bed shortfall.

[dinsdale]

41 minutes ago, Blumpie said:

That's ICU beds.  ICU's treat critically sick patients.  If you get in aa car accident, motorcycle accident, etc.  They are not "beds".  They are specialized centres.

What happens when ICU's are full?

Surgeries start to get cancelled.  Have cancer and need an operation?  Maybe it gets postponed.  Need emergency surgery?  not going to happen.

It's serious.  

There are ICU beds kept free for these circumstances. The bed's set aside for Civid patients are full. The system is hovering on breaking point. No doctors or nurses are spilling the beans and I expect this is because they fear consequences. 

Edited June 23, 2021 by dinsdale

[anchadian]

Leading Chula professor criticizes government’s Sinovac obsession

 

A leading professor at Chulalongkorn University has come out this week to criticize the government for its continued obsession with acquiring Sinovac vaccines. The professor joined Thai Enquirer to outline her grievances, the same one she shares with millions of other Thais.

 

It might not have been as clear in the beginning, but the inefficiency of this [Sinovac] vaccine has been reported in numerous, real-life cases from many countries, from Indonesia to Brazil, said Professor Siripan Nogsuan, an Associate Professor and the Head of the Department of Government, Faculty of Science at Chulalongkorn University.

 

Professor Siripan told us the main question she has for the government is why they are still choosing Sinovac over other vaccine alternatives when it’s clear that it is more expensive and has a much lower efficacy rate?

 

https://www.thaienquirer.com/28886/leading-chula-professor-criticizes-governments-sinovac-obsession/

[anchadian]

AstraZeneca effective against Delta variant, new study finds

 

A new study conducted by the University of Oxford has found that the AstraZeneca vaccines is effective in combating both the Delta and Kappa variant of the Covid-19 virus.

 

The Delta variant, which was first identified in India, is fast becoming the dominant strain of Covid-19 around the world, according to the World Health Organization.

 

Scientists say the Delta variant is both more contagious and results in more hospitalizations than previous strains of the virus.

 

https://www.thaienquirer.com/28895/astrazeneca-effective-against-delta-variant-new-study-finds/

[dinsdale]

17 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

I’m only guessing, but I imagine an incremental increase would be fairly easy. Equipment would be in stock and there is probably some empty space where beds could be placed.
 

and then you could free up space by ditching normal beds for icu stuff. Might not be a top notch icu environment, but above that of normal beds. 
 

But other than that, I’d say you hit a ceiling without building new wards completely or cannibalising existing wards. Those would take some time.

An assumption. It's specialised equipment like intubators that are needed. One wonders exactly how much stock of the specialised medical equipment there is in reserve.

[Marvin Hagler]

So anyway, what has happened to the Astra Zeneca vaccines? It’s all gone very quiet...weren’t there supposed to be another few million delivered by now?

 

I’ll bett anything that the first doses this month came from overseas and that in actual fact none have been produced locally and that they are still way behind schedule.

[anchadian]

TIMELINE: Chonburi informs residents who visited places in relation to recent Chonburi confirmed Covid -19 cases

 

Kaew Bangsai shop and delivery (Honda Wave 125) in Bueang, Si Racha from June 14th to June 20th from 2:00 P.M to 8:00 P.M..

 

Institute of Marine Science, Burapha University on Bang Saen Road in Sane Suk on June 15th from 10:00 A.M. to midday

.

Nuan Jan Market in Thung Sukhala, Si Racha on June 16th and June 20th from 5:00 P.M. to 5:30 P.M..

 

 

 

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/06/23/timeline-chonburi-informs-residents-who-visited-places-in-relation-to-recent-chonburi-confirmed-covid-19-cases-7/

Edited June 23, 2021 by metisdead
Edited as per fair use policy.

[dinsdale]

1 minute ago, anchadian said:

AstraZeneca effective against Delta variant, new study finds

 

A new study conducted by the University of Oxford has found that the AstraZeneca vaccines is effective in combating both the Delta and Kappa variant of the Covid-19 virus.

 

The Delta variant, which was first identified in India, is fast becoming the dominant strain of Covid-19 around the world, according to the World Health Organization.

 

Scientists say the Delta variant is both more contagious and results in more hospitalizations than previous strains of the virus.

 

https://www.thaienquirer.com/28895/astrazeneca-effective-against-delta-variant-new-study-finds/

Oxford does study on Oxford-AstraZenica. Call me a cynic if you will.

[Bkk Brian]

24 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

I think the internment camps are meant for asymptomatic and non severe cases.

 

I assume there are too many severe cases, resulting in this proper hospital bed shortfall.

Generally speaking I think you're correct although they did open one or two so called ICU field hospitals but if you look at the photos they contain cardboard box beds and little medical equipment. How they could be used for severe cases is mind boggling. 

 

Of course as you mentioned in another post for effective ICU care you need specially trained nurses and staff along side a good ratio of doctors and all the necessary equipment.

 

Here's the link to the ICU Field Hospital. I fail to see how they can call it that though.

 

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40000514

 

 

[beano2274]

30 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Generally speaking I think you're correct although they did open one or two so called ICU field hospitals but if you look at the photos they contain cardboard box beds and little medical equipment. How they could be used for severe cases is mind boggling. 

 

Of course as you mentioned in another post for effective ICU care you need specially trained nurses and staff along side a good ratio of doctors and all the necessary equipment.

 

Here's the link to the ICU Field Hospital. I fail to see how they can call it that though.

 

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40000514

 

 

 

Looks like he is seeing how the balls come out for the Lottery, so he can tell his friends the winning numbers, these new lottery machines are just so easy to manipulate

Edited June 23, 2021 by beano2274

[anchadian]

 

The @USEmbassyBKK

has just posted a “Message to American Citizens in Thailand from Chargé d’Affaires

@USAmbThailand

” regarding the request for the US government to vaccinate US citizens in Thailand: https://th.usembassy.gov/a-message-to-american-citizens-in-thailand-from-charge-daffaires-michael-heath… #Thailand

 

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1407563826162110464

 

[anchadian]

 

 

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1407568004410351619

 

Edited June 23, 2021 by anchadian

[Misty]

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

And now for something completely different:

 

Mexico simply lives with the virus. Bars are open. Shops are open.

 

The number of infections is typically a few thousand per day, but they don’t test much. Hospitals occasionally are swamped. Most people die at home. Few are vaccinated.

 

Perhaps this is the model for Thailand.

 

Did you mean "the model for Thailand to follow" ?  Or "the model Thailand is slouching towards following?"

 

Either way, delta and beta variants may change all that for any country - when instead of "living with the virus," a greater portion of people are simply dying.  Whether bars or shops are open, who would go? And forget tourism.

[anchadian]

If you are still waiting for your second dose of AstraZeneca, please note that your appointment will be brought forward due to new government guidelines. This is the information sent out by Phyathai 2 Hospital 

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1407570281548238848

 

[DrJack54]

Anyone familiar with game called 'limited overs cricket' would also be familiar with the very important RUN RATE. 

We are stuff ed already.

[Petey11]

Just reading another article on bed situation in the source that cannot be quoted on here. Doctor stated that a growing number of infections cannot be traced to any specific previous reported infection, showing that the virus has taken hold in the community. The bed situation does look very serious though from the report, time to sequester the private beds I would have thought.

[anchadian]

#COVID19 update in #Thailand on Wednesday:

 

Since 1 April 2021

 

199,676 people infected (+26 imported and +3,148 local cases)

1,650 dead +51

37,018 in care

1,526 in ICU and 433 on ventilators

1,941 discharged from care

 

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1407572529787539470

 

[anchadian]

Of the 3,174 new cases that were found in the past 24 hours:

 

- 2,392 were found at medical facilities

- 720 via pro-active tests at known clusters

- 36 via pro-active tests at prisons

- 26 imported cases

#WhatsHappeningInThailand #โควิด19 #โควิดวันนี้c

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1407572754090455042

 

[beano2274]

11 minutes ago, anchadian said:

 

 

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1407568004410351619

 

So 3% of the total popluation have had the second vaccine, but with which vaccine?

 

IN NRW in Germany on one particular day they vaccincated around 1 million people, and in Thailand they can only manage not even 30% of that per day....

[beano2274]

1 minute ago, anchadian said:

Of the 3,174 new cases that were found in the past 24 hours:

 

- 2,392 were found at medical facilities

- 720 via pro-active tests at known clusters

- 36 via pro-active tests at prisons

- 26 imported cases

#WhatsHappeningInThailand #โควิด19 #โควิดวันนี้c

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1407572754090455042

 

 

Where did the imported cases come from? Thais coming home or foreigners arriving in Thailand?

[anchadian]

4 minutes ago, anchadian said:

#COVID19 update in #Thailand on Wednesday:

 

Since 1 April 2021

 

199,676 people infected (+26 imported and +3,148 local cases)

1,650 dead +51

37,018 in care

1,526 in ICU and 433 on ventilators

1,941 discharged from care

 

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1407572529787539470

 

The number of people in a severe condition are continuing to rise. Today saw a record number of deaths in #Thailand at 51. Presently there are 1,526 in ICU and 433 on ventilators. Most in a severe condition are in Bangkok (210), followed by Samut Prakan (53), and Nonthaburi (22).

 

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1407573561493970946

 

Edited June 23, 2021 by anchadian

[anchadian]

3 minutes ago, beano2274 said:

So 3% of the total popluation have had the second vaccine, but with which vaccine?

 

IN NRW in Germany on one particular day they vaccincated around 1 million people, and in Thailand they can only manage not even 30% of that per day....

Breakdown of vaccine type should follow later.

[anchadian]

Today there are 51 reported deaths in #Thailand:

 

26 males & 25 females

Median age is 69 (29-91 years)

Most deaths in Bangkok (34), Pathum Thani (3), Samut Prakan (3), Chonburi (2), Nakhon Pathom (2), plus 7 provinces with 1 each

5 with no underlying diseases

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1407574338094522370

 

[wensiensheng]

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

An assumption. It's specialised equipment like intubators that are needed. One wonders exactly how much stock of the specialised medical equipment there is in reserve.

Apologies, I meant in stock at suppliers that could be purchased and delivered fairly quickly. Although I assume there’s a worldwide shortage….

[wensiensheng]

2 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Today there are 51 reported deaths in #Thailand:

 

26 males & 25 females

Median age is 69 (29-91 years)

Most deaths in Bangkok (34), Pathum Thani (3), Samut Prakan (3), Chonburi (2), Nakhon Pathom (2), plus 7 provinces with 1 each

5 with no underlying diseases

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1407574338094522370

 

A 29 year old. Food for thought.

 

RIP

[DrJack54]

Sinovac image.

Many Thais already didn't trust it.

(No link for that statement) just based on my gf and her social group which at times seems never ending.

Don't think for one moment that the Thais are not aware of these articles (current news threads) written by Thais questioning the effectiveness of sinovac.

Won't that further put pressure on the supply of vaccines. It's a 2 sided coin... supply and acceptance of vaccine.

[Excel]

1 minute ago, wensiensheng said:

A 29 year old. Food for thought.

 

RIP

I know what you mean but unless that poor 29 year old was part of the  ruling elite in this country then he or she will just remain an unimportant, but tragic, statistic.