15 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

It’s called “contact tracing”.

 

Practically speaking, it means that contacts of asymptomatics are not found unless they go to the hospital.

I think contact tracing is a pipe dream at the moment with the high caseload. I remember a SG acquaintance who got covid in the early days. (just for the record he recovered after 2 months). But with him they even went through CCTV and all it was all really time consuming. Now with the high number of cases i doubt they really put that kind of effort in it. Before they could but now.. I doubt it. That is why Chonburi is in trouble.. once cases are too high contact tracing is too time consuming. In BKK of course i doubt they do full contact tracing as cases are super high.

Regarding the Delta variant. I've just been looking at stats & graphs from India, seems the Delta variant is rapidly declining. It hit a peak in early May and has dropped off significantly since. Is this correct?  

53 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Amazing Thailand, where the Government has decided that the rise in cases is an acceptable risk and is no reason to not delay in opening up the country as they will be vaccinating 70% of those that meet the need by the end of the year.  Hopefully, the Delta Variant does not expand to such a serious level that this government will have to make a hard decision as they currently do not seem to care.  As far as new restrictions go, in the paper we can not link to or mention, there are 23 communities that appear to be growing with cases that may just have the entire community isolated from the rest of the locations by setting up isolation facilities.  The deaths we are seeing are still from back when cases were just a little over 2k a day a few weeks back.  I am keeping my fingers crossed for those on the ventilators, those in serious condition and those waiting for beds.  I am also praying for the GF's two aunts who are critical and whom family can only get information from the hospital once a day as they can not visit.  We live in a tenuous situation right now, and I wish everyone the best and please stay safe.

We are all with you on this one. The shortage of beds in Bangkok is now critical to other parts of the country.  A village in our Amphur is now in crisis as is our local community hospital. Five people travelled up from Bangkok on Thursday as they were fearing the worst regarding contracting the virus in Bangkok. By the time they arrived they were feeling unwell. However they stayed in their village house overnight isolated as is a local requirement for returnees, but with with their elderly parents !! Friday morning all five went to the hospital, whereas they should have phoned first. We learned this morning that they were tested positive for Covid, strain unknown at this time. Their elderly parents were taken in for checking yesterday also.  Our community hospital late last night evacuated all normal patients to nearest hospitals , and is currently shutdown and isolated ( hopefully). So Bangkoks problem is now our problem out  in the sticks where no one is vaccinated.

If anything good come out of this then hopefully the health authorities will now ensure our hospital doctors, nurses and ancillary staff will now be given vaccinations, something that has been denied them so far. Now if this is an example of what has happened recently around the country as a whole then the future for normality is grim indeed.

45 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Which vaccination targets? There were so many variations of targets announced…..

Anutin said Health dept met their target of delivering 6 mil vaccines in June.

 

 

4 minutes ago, Excel said:

If anything good come out of this then hopefully the health authorities will now ensure our hospital doctors, nurses and ancillary staff will now be given vaccinations, something that has been denied them so far.

Phuket hotel staff were more important than frontline medical staff and those at risk

21 minutes ago, robblok said:

I think contact tracing is a pipe dream at the moment with the high caseload. I remember a SG acquaintance who got covid in the early days. (just for the record he recovered after 2 months). But with him they even went through CCTV and all it was all really time consuming. Now with the high number of cases i doubt they really put that kind of effort in it. Before they could but now.. I doubt it. That is why Chonburi is in trouble.. once cases are too high contact tracing is too time consuming. In BKK of course i doubt they do full contact tracing as cases are super high.

also by the time people get sick enough to actually go to hospital a week could have already passed

31 minutes ago, grain said:

Regarding the Delta variant. I've just been looking at stats & graphs from India, seems the Delta variant is rapidly declining. It hit a peak in early May and has dropped off significantly since. Is this correct?  

Verified stats in the urban areas are declining.  However, my contacts in India report that the virus has moved to rural areas. And the information flow from the rural areas is extremely low - my contacts report that testing in the rural areas is virtually nonexistent, and that not even the gov't knows the extent of the spread. 

 

So only the verified figures are declining. There's no good information on the actual figures.

2 minutes ago, Misty said:

Verified stats in the urban areas are declining.  However, my contacts in India report that the virus has moved to rural areas. And the information flow from the rural areas is extremely low - my contacts report that testing in the rural areas is virtually nonexistent, and that not even the gov't knows the extent of the spread. 

 

So only the verified figures are declining. There's no good information on the actual figures.

I wonder how long before another variant shows up that makes Delta look like a walk in the park 

40 minutes ago, grain said:

Regarding the Delta variant. I've just been looking at stats & graphs from India, seems the Delta variant is rapidly declining. It hit a peak in early May and has dropped off significantly since. Is this correct?  

Posts like this are not welcome on here

The variance is spreading who really knows the real numbers it’s like how they count road that’s in Thailand I don’t really tell you the real number meanwhile as a foreigner living here no vaccine date scheduled or hospital due to a lack of government rollout of the vaccine amazing Thailand TIT

3 minutes ago, cyril sneer said:

Posts like this are not welcome on here

Why not? Isn't this forum open to discussion and exchange of information?

7 minutes ago, cyril sneer said:

Posts like this are not welcome on here

If the post has significance and a link can prove what is written then I welcome all information as I have no agenda.

50 minutes ago, grain said:

Regarding the Delta variant. I've just been looking at stats & graphs from India, seems the Delta variant is rapidly declining. It hit a peak in early May and has dropped off significantly since. Is this correct?  

Yes it has dropped off in cities but not all cities. It has also moved into rural areas where testing and health care is minimul so true numbers are not known. You should find answers to you question here:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-57225922

1 hour ago, morrobay said:

Can you give the age and any underlying health conditions . Including smoker ? And if possible anything about the virus exposure to this person.

I have a friend who had no conditions, 61 and healthy.  3.5 weeks intubated with a trachea tube in.  He can't walk without a walker now.  He can't taste.  And his life will never be the same even if he does recover - which he won't.  They forced him to the hospital - his friend found him as he lives alone.  

Another friend in Nepal, dead.  No health care there, just stay at home and die.  He was a mountain guide.  

 

Fishing for reasons why some fall ill doesn't work.  Sometimes it just happens.  

 

What you should truly be frightened of is long COVID.  It is very debilitating.  I worry more about that than death that's for sure.  

 

6 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

If the post has significance and a link can prove what is written then I welcome all information as I have no agenda.

Well the thread is about the covid virus, in particular the Delta variant which is currently the main variant in India and rapidly spreading in Thailand. So I say my question is significant and not off topic. As for a link, the graphs I looked at were on the WHO website, as soon as I find the page again I'll post a link. Are we OK now?

56 minutes ago, grain said:

Regarding the Delta variant. I've just been looking at stats & graphs from India, seems the Delta variant is rapidly declining. It hit a peak in early May and has dropped off significantly since. Is this correct?  

I know!  It's what I've been hoping for Thailand.  That's why I'm watching these numbers so very carefully.  

 

Here's hoping!  

1 minute ago, Blumpie said:

I know!  It's what I've been hoping for Thailand.  That's why I'm watching these numbers so very carefully.  

 

Here's hoping!  

Does Thailand have vaccination programme.

It ain't working. They need vaccine.

Can't imagine Mr Delta will blow away with the wind as Czar suggests.

1 minute ago, DrJack54 said:

Does Thailand have vaccination programme.

It ain't working. They need vaccine.

Can't imagine Mr Delta will blow away with the wind as Czar suggests.

Do they have a vaccination plan?  They have no vaccines.  If they get the vaccines they will have no vaccination plan I promise you.  They need 1,200,000 shots.  Those are needles, and people to stab people in the arm with it.  That's the programme, they haven't reached the point of even figuring that out.  Guaranteed or your money back!  

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

I also wonder how many are at home, unable to get a test or hospital bed, suffering with complications that could turn serious. Far too many like this have been reported, what about all those who are not reported. Its now at a stage of crisis but the official line is that its under control....

 

 

My ex-girlfriend's brother, in his early 50s, was just sent home on Friday from Siriraj Hospital having spent a mere 8 days in there after a positive diagnosis.  His condition was initially very bad (low oxygen) and he was put in a negative pressure room.  He was given the anti-viral drug favipiravir.  By Friday, he had only improved a bit, but there were so many more very serious cases coming in that they sent him home.  They gave him a 2-week supply of favipiravir to take with him and told him to not leave his townhouse (where he lives alone) for 4 weeks.

 

It would be of interest, in this daily tally of new infections and deaths, to include the number of vaccinated persons, and whether single or double (and even which vax they had).

20 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

If the post has significance and a link can prove what is written

... then at least some on here will then try to discredit what was written in the link.

2 minutes ago, law ling said:

It would be of interest, in this daily tally of new infections and deaths, to include the number of vaccinated persons, and whether single or double (and even which vax they had).

I don't think they would do that.

If only few infections to folk vaccinated it would lower public confidence in obtaining jab. That's not good.

1 minute ago, DrJack54 said:

I don't think they would do that.

If only few infections to folk vaccinated it would lower public confidence in obtaining jab. That's not good.

True, plus it takes a few weeks for the vaccine to kick in. Your not directly protected after the injection. So how to count those in that time as not vaccinated or vaccinated.

 

In my country we have almost only un vaccinated people ending up in the hospitals. But we don't have much of the delta strain just yet. Maybe soon as people mix with the Brits on the holiday destinations and they seem to have a lot of delta. So the young people will bring it back. (at least that is what i expect) lots of young people going on holliday now most not vaccinated.

5 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

I don't think they would do that.

If only few infections to folk vaccinated it would lower public confidence in obtaining jab. That's not good.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/28/indonesian-covid-deaths-add-to-questions-over-sinovac-vaccine

 

Concerns over the efficacy of Sinovac and Sinopharm has exacerbated the problem of vaccine hesitancy in some countries that are reliant on Chinese-made doses. Last month the Philippine health department said the public would not be told in advance which brand of vaccines would be available at inoculation sites, after people queued up from 2am at a site they believed was offering Pfizer.

 

1 minute ago, robblok said:

Maybe soon as people mix with the Brits on the holiday destinations and they seem to have a lot of delta.

That's why I've been banging on about need for gov to stop holiday makers from leaving Bangkok (where Delta taking hold) to various destinations such as Chonburi, Rayong etc.

Long weekend coming up. Should have already been in place for this weekend.

 

18 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

That's why I've been banging on about need for gov to stop holiday makers from leaving Bangkok (where Delta taking hold) to various destinations such as Chonburi, Rayong etc.

Long weekend coming up. Should have already been in place for this weekend.

 

Yes but i think its almost impossible to curb the spread of delta. I mean how do you see this working. How to stop people from traveling ? Its not as if they have enough man power to check all cars. The traffic jams would be crazy. 

 

But i agree trying to curb the spread of delta is important but doubt it can be done. It will get worse before it will get better.

29 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

... then at least some on here will then try to discredit what was written in the link.

No information will not be discredited unless it is found to be pseudoscience or a conspiracy link. Most of us here present other opinions if we find something that is in contrast to other published information.  We do not object to different viewpoints but rather to those who use it as an agenda.  Being open minded and disagreeing are not the same as discrediting a post just because someone does not like the information.  Covid and the variants are changing daily and what was thought to be the norm six months ago is now found to be outdated and is overshadowed by newer information, but then some folks still rely on the outdated science and information.  Like life Covid is unfortunately ever evolving.

2 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

Catastrophic, Delta taking over but no vaccine... 

 

The AZ vaccine is very effective if you can get it.

2 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Which vaccination targets? There were so many variations of targets announced…..

All of them of course, just ask them

Chumpair Khon Kaen kids in quarantine! Not Nice to separate kids from parents!