Popular Post webfact Posted July 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2021 Picture: Daily News Pheu Thai opposition MP for Nan Dr Cholnan Srikaew lauched a scathing attack on Thailand's embattled prime minister Prayuth Chan-ocha for his handling of the pandemic, reported Daily News. Dr Cholnan said the PM didn't care about the medical frontline workers and was letting them die as the pandemic spiralled out of control due to his ineptness and inefficiency. He also demanded to know what had happened to 400,000 missing doses of vaccine intended for medical personnel asking whether they had been allocated to others. Dr Cholnan said that up to now the PM's role in handling the pandemic had been characterized by unclear policies and lack of control. He noted the daily caseload of 10-15,000 new infections and deathtoll with clusters everywhere. This reflected the PM's total inefficiency and inept lack of control. He placed the blame for the collapse of the health system at the PM's door. Front line personnel were struggling for time and were dying because the PM couldn't care less about them. Compensation for those that had died was non-existent, he claimed. A new system was needed and third doses to frontline medics were needed as a matter of priority as well as proper consultation with them - something that had never happened. He said that 700,000 doses of vaccine were promised but frontline staff had only got 300,000. He wanted to know about the missing 400K asking whether it had gone elsewhere and if so to whom. He signed off: "Prayuth has lost all credibility and faith with the people". ASEAN NOW notes that commentators on the situation in Thailand and news organisations are increasingly suggesting that Prayuth's days are numbered and that his administration is looking untenable. He had been in power since a coup in 2014. But the question remains if he were to be replaced, by whom and would his replacement be any more effective in handling the pandemic? -- © Copyright ASEAN NOW 2021-07-27 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 42 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr Meeseeks Posted July 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2021 He is 100% spot on with his criticism. 52 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thaiwrath Posted July 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, webfact said: "Prayuth has lost all credibility and faith with the people". Not sure he had much credibility in overthrowing an elected Government with a military coup. 45 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RotBenz8888 Posted July 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, webfact said: But the question remains if he were to be replaced, by whom and would his replacement be any more effective in handling the pandemic? Any new PM cant do things worse than prajut, that's for certain. (Accept for Anutin of course). 23 3 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr Meeseeks Posted July 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, Thaiwrath said: Not sure he had much credibility in overthrowing an elected Government with a military coup. Apparently that didn't matter. There were plenty of folk on here supporting him, and plenty of local Thais also voted for his party which allowed his selection as PM at the head of a coalition government. We are now seeing the effects of such poor judgement. 27 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted July 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said: Apparently that didn't matter. There were plenty of folk on here supporting him, and plenty of local Thais also voted for his party which allowed his selection as PM at the head of a coalition government. We are now seeing the effects of such poor judgement. Ah, but then who knew now after all his best friend Suthep helped him. Should have said it all. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tonray Posted July 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2021 14 minutes ago, RotBenz8888 said: Any new PM cant do things worse than prajut, that's for certain. (Accept for Anutin of course). Unfortunately according to my GF, he's being groomed and in line for the job when and if what's his name decides to retire. 3 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SeaMike01 Posted July 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2021 Yes, where are all of the missing vaccines? So many vaccines being sent to Thailand and then mysteriously aren't available. 9 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted July 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2021 Just now, SeaMike01 said: Yes, where are all of the missing vaccines? So many vaccines being sent to Thailand and then mysteriously aren't available. My GF believes they were sold on the black market and onward in Hi-So circles. 24 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mtls2005 Posted July 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2021 Hope this chap has asbestos underwear. The pm, his henchmen and the full weight of the regime, along with the ultra-right-wing nationalists/monionettes, and government -funded web doxxers will be all over this guy. The key to holding the regime responsible is transparency, the best disinfectant to the rampant corruption. Need more document leaks. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted July 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2021 well said - I hope he is not a fan of Anutin because he is equally to blame - they have both shown to be well and truely out of their depth, no surprise really - one is a builder and the other - hard to say apart from he likes to wear fancy uniforms 16 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nikmar Posted July 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2021 Just now, tonray said: Unfortunately according to my GF, he's being groomed and in line for the job when and if what's his name decides to retire. Unfortunately Mrs Nik is a staunch royalist and Prayut supporter - and yes, this is an area of contention between us - but sees the junk trafficker as the next PM. She seems really ok with this prospect. I wonder if the beer Leo is rotting her brains!! 3 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted July 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2021 This all happened due to sheer stupidity and stunning greed. Thailand is really going into a world of hurt now. Tourism will not recover for years and domestic tourism just died. Millions of jobs lost. The people will not tolerate these goons much longer. My theory is that the army brass already knows this, and are now forming an escape plan. Hopefully into exile, but far better, into prison. They can fight a few tens of thousands. They cannot possibly beat many millions. And that is what we will see when this army created debacle is over with. Prayuth has zero credibility, on any level. He is stunningly incompetent, and has long overstayed his welcome. And now, he has failed the nation miserably with this second wave, which could have easily been avoided, had some precautions been taken by locking down Samut Sakhon province immediately, and rooting out his bad apple immigration guys, on the border. There is no saying the extent of the corruption in this administration, but the army is not exactly known for integrity. Well, one thing is for certain. And if it was not apparent before Covid, it sure is now. They have a nearly non existent concern for the well being of the masses here, who have been affected negatively by Covid, the economic shutdown and the utter, long term collapse of the Tourism industry. The entire nation should be heaping criticism on this utter failure of a PM. He is literally destroying his nation, by the day. Anything, absolutely anything that can be done to limit the power of the army, and the toxic and corrupt senators they appointed, is a good thing for the nation. The dinosaurs must be made extinct. And the youth must be allowed representation or control. Total control, if possible. They are the only ones who can move this nation forward, and stop the heinous and regressive army. 48 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gk10012001 Posted July 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2021 33 minutes ago, Thaiwrath said: Not sure he had much credibility in overthrowing an elected Government with a military coup. He had none with me. I was so happy on my first trip in 2004. I thought Thailand had broken the circle of constant coups. I was wrong a few years later and it has continued. Good, bad, or indifferent, if you keep tearing up and throwing away constitutions, and are unwilling consent to the principals of a rule of law, then they are meaningless. 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thailand Posted July 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2021 If he nd his cronies are replaced it will simplybe by another bunch of elderly military guys who are likely to be even worse. Zero chance of a legitimate election. 11 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, mtls2005 said: Hope this chap has asbestos underwear. The pm, his henchmen and the full weight of the regime, along with the ultra-right-wing nationalists/monionettes, and government -funded web doxxers will be all over this guy. The key to holding the regime responsible is transparency, the best disinfectant to the rampant corruption. Need more document leaks. Problem is that the past has shown us that previous governments are as corrupt as this one. Maybe they will be a bitter better at handeling the pandemic. Best thing would be to let Prayut go on and ( i know its bad to say) that covid goes on too. Then when an election needs to be held they will be so unpopular that they will be utterly crushed. This will give the new government from the opposition more power to change things. I think switching PM's now would not give them enough power. Prayut needs to mess up even more. The bad economics still have to emerge until there really is no way out anymore. Then strike. Anyway any change is better then none, but without sufficient power the next government will fail too and give this government a way back in. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JonnyF Posted July 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, robblok said: Anyway any change is better then none, but without sufficient power the next government will fail too and give this government a way back in. The trouble is people like you who support military coups because you didn't like who the Thai people chose to lead them in the democratic elections. Well, I hope you're enjoying this mess. You were all smiles in 2014 when they stole power, not so much now I suspect. If people with your mindset stopped supporting these thugs and goons they wouldn't be able to keep having coups and putting the country back decades. I hope you've learned something from all this. 21 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post robblok Posted July 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, JonnyF said: The trouble is people like you who support military coups because you didn't like who the Thai people chose to lead them in the democratic elections. Well, I hope you're enjoying this mess. You were all smiles in 2014 when they stole power, not so much now I suspect. If people with your mindset stopped supporting these thugs and goons they wouldn't be able to keep having coups and putting the country back decades. I hope you've learned something from all this. The point is with people like you that your not capable of changing your mind. I sure was all smiles and still am seing how the G2G deals were fake and some people ended up in jail for years. So great result. YL said no corruption no problems yet her minions ended up for years in jail and the G2G were fake. So I was quite right in saying something had to be done. In previous times coups were short. This time not so I was wrong admitted it. You however never admit when your wrong and you often are. Anyway I am not supporting this government haven't for a long time. However that does not make me a Thaksin fan. The guy and his clones were corrupt idiots too just like this government. They are all up to the same tricks. YL did her best to interfere with investigations denying that there were problems. Just like Prayut is doing now. The similarities are so striking. You just don't see it. For me it just shows that whoever will be in charge will be corrupt too will be doing the same things to keep their failures out of sight while aftakking the other side. That never changes. But right now I don't really care just like back then a change is needed. Strange that you were against it back then but ok with it now. 2 2 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10012001 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Over the years I have heard so many Asians in several countries in that region say things like "We need a strong leader". That probably is true because they just did not grow up with the Western concept of law and democracy and voting. They all in fairly recent had or still have kings, royalty, literally caste systems, spoken and overt or subtle. One person one vote was not in their minds. The ideas of ancient Greek Town meetings, representatives from different provinces for the rich the poor, the farmers, or whatever region just is not done. Thailand was almost frozen by indecision just before Prayut took over. So now, many think he had organizational skills. Siiiiigh. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JonnyF Posted July 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, robblok said: But right now I don't really care just like back then a change is needed. Strange that you were against it back then but ok with it now. That's what elections are for. You can't just run roughshod over the democratic process simply because you don't like the result of a democratic vote. Brexit taught us that. I was against change back then because of the way it was done i.e. it was an illegal power grab. Had the Thai people voted for another leader at a fair election I'd have been delighted that their Democracy was finally maturing. The fact you don't really care how change occurs says it all really. You still haven't learned anything. 16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post meechai Posted July 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 hour ago, webfact said: But the question remains if he were to be replaced, by whom and would his replacement be any more effective in handling the pandemic? This is exactly what Prayut wants...It is no surprise that suddenly social media & other outlets are allowed dissension. He has already said ok I can leave if you want me to....But this is all by plan. He knows he has drained the trough & his family is rich for generations to come. He knows he is no match for the real problems the country now faces so he can just slip out pretending it is what the people wanted...for him to step down But what he knows is there will be no election...How can there be?? No campaigns can run during Covid No Elections can be held during Covid So guess what? Rinse & repeat same as previous 13 times except this time no need for coup as no government is in place to overthrow Instead of course another General will now step in claiming Thailand has no stability...has no government so for the safety of the people the military needs to once again take the reins....as if it were ever any other way Good Luck Thailand 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mfd101 Posted July 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2021 The main thing to remember is that the corruption & incompetence are owned not just by the 2 gentlemen mentioned. They are the product of layers of feudal hierarchy, contempt for the lower ranks, poor education and theft on a mind-boggling scale. The World Bank estimated a few years ago that 30%-60% (rather a wide bandwidth!) of Thai government expenditure went on 'graft'. Which we can probably agree might well be a reasonable guess. Nothing will change until a student-led rebellion leads to mass uprisings & the overthrow of the whole rotten system. I live for the day. 21 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post meechai Posted July 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) 45 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: They can fight a few tens of thousands. They cannot possibly beat many millions. And that is what we will see when this army created debacle is over with. Nice thought but these are not patriots...Ever hear the phrase...Every nation gets the government it deserves? Or... In a democracy, the people get the government they deserve? Thailand has always had the governments they deserved because they never did a thing about it. They are groomed since childhood with silly face notions & never question authority etc etc Say a bad thing even if true & risk defamation lawsuits that wreck you. No sadly as someone else said & I have also said it will be the kids if anything ever changes They may understand "the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" In Thailand's case a seedling must be planted as it never had a tree Edited July 27, 2021 by meechai 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 33 minutes ago, JonnyF said: the Thai people chose to lead them in the democratic elections "chose" or "rewarded monetarily" to vote for the pay master? There's a huge difference. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ourdon Posted July 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2021 38 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: This all happened due to sheer stupidity and stunning greed. Thailand is really going into a world of hurt now. Tourism will not recover for years and domestic tourism just died. Millions of jobs lost. The people will not tolerate these goons much longer. My theory is that the army brass already knows this, and are now forming an escape plan. Hopefully into exile, but far better, into prison. They can fight a few tens of thousands. They cannot possibly beat many millions. And that is what we will see when this army created debacle is over with. Prayuth has zero credibility, on any level. He is stunningly incompetent, and has long overstayed his welcome. And now, he has failed the nation miserably with this second wave, which could have easily been avoided, had some precautions been taken by locking down Samut Sakhon province immediately, and rooting out his bad apple immigration guys, on the border. There is no saying the extent of the corruption in this administration, but the army is not exactly known for integrity. Well, one thing is for certain. And if it was not apparent before Covid, it sure is now. They have a nearly non existent concern for the well being of the masses here, who have been affected negatively by Covid, the economic shutdown and the utter, long term collapse of the Tourism industry. The entire nation should be heaping criticism on this utter failure of a PM. He is literally destroying his nation, by the day. Anything, absolutely anything that can be done to limit the power of the army, and the toxic and corrupt senators they appointed, is a good thing for the nation. The dinosaurs must be made extinct. And the youth must be allowed representation or control. Total control, if possible. They are the only ones who can move this nation forward, and stop the heinous and regressive army. This good doctor might be one of the answers to the question "Who do we get to replace him". I don't disagree with your appraisal of the current regime. As a matter of fact, you might like them more than I do. Youth is a relative term. I prefer my political leaders to have seen both sides of puberty. A youth take over did not end well with the khmer rouge in Cambodia and the red guard in China. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post law ling Posted July 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2021 1. I think the damage has been done - it won't be easy for any new one. 2. Some urgent priorities seem to be: Actually ordering quality vaccines - in sufficient quantity - rather than the current dribs and drabs system; and providing better support for those in real financial need. But perhaps there's no money left? 3. The missing vaccines certainly needs an explanation. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said: My GF believes they were sold on the black market and onward in Hi-So circles. The Vaccines may, or may not be missing. A full and quantifiable reply to this question asked should be forth coming Silence would almost be an admission that the Vaccines had indeed gone missing, and with Government knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted July 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 hour ago, nikmar said: Unfortunately Mrs Nik is a staunch royalist and Prayut supporter - and yes, this is an area of contention between us - but sees the junk trafficker as the next PM. She seems really ok with this prospect. I wonder if the beer Leo is rotting her brains!! As if Thailand could not sink any lower, let's have a heroin dealer as PM. It actually might be an upgrade from the tin pot soldier we have now! Thailand is heading toward "Burundi status", and we know who we have to thank for that. A decade or two from now, many of us might be sitting around saying, "remember when Thailand was considered the Tiger of SE Asia? How far we have fallen". From the 22nd largest economy in the world, to 98th. Wow. Big changes. Remember when Japan used to have 7,000 companies operating out of Thailand? Now, only 400. Remember when Thailand used to have a major tourism industry? Now, thousands of decrepit shells of former hotels. Wow. How things change. 13 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Excel Posted July 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2021 Another who needs to watch his back in case he does a "disappearing" act 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr Meeseeks Posted July 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Thailand said: If he nd his cronies are replaced it will simplybe by another bunch of elderly military guys who are likely to be even worse. Zero chance of a legitimate election. Yup. This is what happens when you legitimise military coups to disrupt the democratic process and remove elected governments. Thailand has only ever paid lip service to democracy, the same old cronies are still in power albeit under a different name and with different allegiances. Now that ties with China are getting stronger we will see further erosion of democratic principles and less concern about appearances for the West. We are moving rapidly backwards here, from the late 90's and early 00's Hacylon days. Edited July 27, 2021 by Mr Meeseeks 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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