MP launches scathing attack on Thai PM: He's lost all credibility and faith - and where are missing vaccines?

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

He is 100% spot on with his criticism.

He's 100% correct and 100% off the Xmas card list.

[HappyinNE]

But the question remains if he were to be replaced, by whom and would his replacement be any more effective in handling the pandemic?

 

Could not be worse!

[sammieuk1]

He must be saying banning alcohol sales and closing bars with draconian fines is not the central pillar in fighting Covid ????

[natway09]

Some very interesting comments above.

I make two comments

1. When this is over you will find Thailand did not come out just as badly as many countries, despite 

all the mismanagement (have a look at Boris)

2. Be very careful what you ask for at this time

[ThailandRyan]

17 minutes ago, natway09 said:

Some very interesting comments above.

I make two comments

1. When this is over you will find Thailand did not come out just as badly as many countries, despite 

all the mismanagement (have a look at Boris)

2. Be very careful what you ask for at this time

One could only hope you are correct, but unfortunately the writing is on the wall and Thailand is 1 year behind the west and never learned one iota from those that fell before it started to.

Edited July 27, 2021 by ThailandRyan

[john smith]

I do not recall seeing reports of Covid outbreaks in any of the army navy or airforce barracks .  One would think that these were the very places that would suffer. Possibly some of the absent vaccines went there?

[robblok]

3 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

And what do you think would happen if he was voted out in a fair election?

 

That's a rhetorical question by the way so don't spend too much energy thinking about it. I'll save you the time. There would be another coup within a few years to put the Army back in control. And you'd probably support it (again!), claiming that since corruption hadn't been completely eradicated in those few years the overthrowing of Democracy via the barrel of a gun was justified.????

 

Or maybe you'd attempt to take the intellectual high ground and claim the Thai electorate was stupid and you know best and therefore the vote didn't need to be respected, like you did with the Brexit vote? ????

I have no clue but given that your so informed i let you win this one my future predictions are not as good as yours obviously. I take it your leading a life of luxury by knowing all that happens in the future ?

 

I am not saying the Thai electorate is stupid, im saying that they are bought and that people from opposition parties switch sides for money. So there is no loyalty to a cause just lining pockets. I am saying that Prayut the hypocrite copied Thaksin his policies of funding villages and gets votes from that. What I am basically saying is that the Thais are not bound to a party but bound to who pays them most. I think most of them have accepted the corruption and many don't care as long as they get a slice.

 

I am still irked and annoyed by lies no matter from what side they come. Be they lies over a rice plan or vaccinations. I like actions to be taken heads to roll (figuratively). I hate it when people get the hook for stuff like watches and not to mention the red bull saga. Like i said I have no real political affiliation as long as they are a bit honest its ok with me. Even before the previous election I had already turned away from the junta and was a future forward man as they seemed to be the ones with the least lies and corruption.

 

That is basically it judge me if you want but I hate all the lies denials when the truth is plain for everyone to see and they get away with it. Because they control who does the checking and have the power. That was the way with the rice program and now with watches and vaccines. Those things make my blood boil. 

[spidermike007]

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Thaksin may have been corrupt, but he was fairly competent, a smart politician, and actually accomplished stuff, unlike these tin pot soldiers, who do nothing but babble, oppress, wreak economic devastation, destroy the tourism industry and spread disease.

 

Just out of curiosity, cite just a few of their accomplishments. Can you? Can anyone? What on earth do they do with themselves all day, besides drink vintage champagne, and eat expensive meals?

And I forgot to mention, although Thaksin was corrupt, he was well liked, by millions of Thais. Prayuth only has about 2,200 supporters left. And they are all army generals. He is despised by nearly all Thais, as this stage of the game. Literally despised. Not sure when a leader and his entire administration was hated to the extent this toxic and nasty man, and his underlings are right now. Today. He needs to go, ASAP. 

 

Get out. Get out now. Resign, or face the wrath of the masses, sooner or later. 

Edited July 27, 2021 by spidermike007

[GreasyFingers]

6 hours ago, gk10012001 said:

That probably is true because they just did not grow up with the Western concept of law and democracy and voting.

I am glad you described it as a "concept" because it is not a reality.

[Burma Bill]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

what had happened to 400,000 missing doses of vaccine i

Donated to his military pals in Burma?????

[robblok]

1 minute ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Again this shows your lack of intellect and understanding. Maybe Holland should have Prayut as leader as you are happy for Thailand to embrace him.

 

And the UK voted Brexit and voted a PM in twice who supported this. I wont reply to your message as this is a thread about Thailand but really highlights you and your flawed logic.

 

Speechless.

Maybe you should read all of my posts I want Prayut gone. Selective quoting is taking things out of context. I did not bring Brexit into this one of your countrymen did (so put the blame where it should be)

[bradiston]

1 hour ago, bradiston said:

I saw this man on TV speaking in parliament. It was really impressive. It was all in Thai, of course, but I could tell from the delivery, the body language, the absence of notes, that he knew exactly what he was talking about. It was fierce, impassioned, and thoroughly focused. A great public speaker, extremely intelligent and I would say, a very bright hope for the future. He has my vote, except I don't have one. Still I can cheer from the sidelines, can't I?

The man in question is not Prayut BTW. It's the MP from Nan.

[rwill]

7 hours ago, JonnyF said:

That's what elections are for. You can't just run roughshod over the democratic process simply because you don't like the result of a democratic vote. Brexit taught us that.

 

I was against change back then because of the way it was done i.e. it was an illegal power grab. Had the Thai people voted for another leader at a fair election I'd have been delighted that their Democracy was finally maturing. The fact you don't really care how change occurs says it all really. You still haven't learned anything. 

I don't believe Thailand has had a democratic vote since the coup.  The senate was all appointed, not elected as before the new constitution.  And then they were given the power to vote for PM which had not been like that for 2 decades.  So the PM had 250 votes already before the election.

Edited July 27, 2021 by rwill

[Tracyb]

Bring someone like Dr. Fauci over here to get things straightened out!

[James105]

Did he perchance ask about any financial support for those who are not allowed to make any kind of income at the moment as their businesses have been forced to close?   Does anyone actually care?  Is money just a "nice to have" in this country and not having any at all to buy food or rent is just seen as a minor inconvenience, but nothing really to worry about?  

[Golden Triangle]

MP launches scathing attack on Thai PM: He's lost all credibility and faith - and where are missing vaccines?

I like this guy already, when this is over I will go back to Nan and shake his hand, if he's still around ????

Edited July 27, 2021 by metisdead
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[rudi49jr]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

He also demanded to know what had happened to 400,000 missing doses of vaccine intended for medical personnel asking whether they had been allocated to others.

Allocated or sold under the table? At just 10 bucks a pop that’s already a cool 4 million dollars. 

[Bangkok Barry]

8 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

This all happened due to sheer stupidity and stunning greed. Thailand is really going into a world of hurt now. Tourism will not recover for years and domestic tourism just died. Millions of jobs lost.

The people will not tolerate these goons much longer. My theory is that the army brass already knows this, and are now forming an escape plan. Hopefully into exile, but far better, into prison. They can fight a few tens of thousands. They cannot possibly beat many millions. And that is what we will see when this army created debacle is over with.

Prayuth has zero credibility, on any level. He is stunningly incompetent, and has long overstayed his welcome. And now, he has failed the nation miserably with this second wave, which could have easily been avoided, had some precautions been taken by locking down Samut Sakhon province immediately, and rooting out his bad apple immigration guys, on the border. There is no saying the extent of the corruption in this administration, but the army is not exactly known for integrity.

Well, one thing is for certain. And if it was not apparent before Covid, it sure is now. They have a nearly non existent concern for the well being of the masses here, who have been affected negatively by Covid, the economic shutdown and the utter, long term collapse of the Tourism industry. 

 

The entire nation should be heaping criticism on this utter failure of a PM. He is literally destroying his nation, by the day. Anything, absolutely anything that can be done to limit the power of the army, and the toxic and corrupt senators they appointed, is a good thing for the nation. The dinosaurs must be made extinct. And the youth must be allowed representation or control. Total control, if possible. They are the only ones who can move this nation forward, and stop the heinous and regressive  army.
 

We all know this. But people can't fight tanks and guns with plastic inflatable ducks and showing lights from their mobile phones. The many thousands who have been protesting have had absolutely no effect, and nor will they. Any time it looks as if a new, younger leadership might emerge that party is outlawed, And even when hundreds of thousands have taken to the streets before and paralysed Bangkok and burned down buildings, the long-term effects were minimal.

 

I don't know what the answer is, but it won't involve millions on the street. The only light might be a coup by a more responsible group of soldiers, but the chance of that is slim. The system in Thailand is completely broken and perhaps beyond repair.

[metisdead]

Some inflammatory posts and the replies have been removed.

 

Off topic posts about Brexit and the replies have been removed. 

[Uroller]

The Peter Principle is a concept in management developed by Laurence J. Peter, which observes that people in a hierarchy tend to rise to their "maximum level of incompetence": employees are promoted based on their success in previous jobs until they reach a level at which they are no longer competent, as skills in one job do not necessarily translate to another.

[JensenZ]

9 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

Apparently that didn't matter. There were plenty of folk on here supporting him, and plenty of local Thais also voted for his party which allowed his selection as PM at the head of a coalition government.

 

We are now seeing the effects of such poor judgement.

 

 

I was one that did not appreciate the coup, but back then, any criticism of him on here resulted in an immediate and long posting ban. Now everyone is doing it, unfortunately it's too little too late after 7 years of damage have been done to the country. Ultimately it ensures that military take overs will continue into the future as it's quite obvious they do succeed. Unless coups are prevented from happening, things will never change. Generals will always be in charge.

[Mansell]

9 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

This all happened due to sheer stupidity and stunning greed. Thailand is really going into a world of hurt now. Tourism will not recover for years and domestic tourism just died. Millions of jobs lost.

The people will not tolerate these goons much longer. My theory is that the army brass already knows this, and are now forming an escape plan. Hopefully into exile, but far better, into prison. They can fight a few tens of thousands. They cannot possibly beat many millions. And that is what we will see when this army created debacle is over with.

Prayuth has zero credibility, on any level. He is stunningly incompetent, and has long overstayed his welcome. And now, he has failed the nation miserably with this second wave, which could have easily been avoided, had some precautions been taken by locking down Samut Sakhon province immediately, and rooting out his bad apple immigration guys, on the border. There is no saying the extent of the corruption in this administration, but the army is not exactly known for integrity.

Well, one thing is for certain. And if it was not apparent before Covid, it sure is now. They have a nearly non existent concern for the well being of the masses here, who have been affected negatively by Covid, the economic shutdown and the utter, long term collapse of the Tourism industry. 

 

The entire nation should be heaping criticism on this utter failure of a PM. He is literally destroying his nation, by the day. Anything, absolutely anything that can be done to limit the power of the army, and the toxic and corrupt senators they appointed, is a good thing for the nation. The dinosaurs must be made extinct. And the youth must be allowed representation or control. Total control, if possible. They are the only ones who can move this nation forward, and stop the heinous and regressive  army.
 

Totally agree Mike. We need a million people on the street demanding that the PM and his army cronies are all removed from power for complete incompetence, and a total lack of caring for the Thai people. Time to return to Democracy for the country. 

[ChipButty]

3 hours ago, john smith said:

I do not recall seeing reports of Covid outbreaks in any of the army navy or airforce barracks .  One would think that these were the very places that would suffer. Possibly some of the absent vaccines went there?

They all went to America to get their vaccines, did you miss that story?

[ALLSEEINGEYE]

I fully agree that the current Govt. has totally mismanaged the vaccines roll out.

 

But having a Pheu Thai MP criticize is worse than the pot calling the kettle black.

 

It is clearly time for a change in leadership as long as it's not Pheu Thai, They have screwed this country for long enough as well and if they were in charge things would not be any better. 

 

I have lived here for 19 years and have seen the damage the Pheu Thai has done.

 

The coup was necessary, but would be a waste of time if the old crooks just take over again.

 

I hope Thailand can finally make a change to some sort of reasonable leadership, but won't hold my breath. 

[Artisi]

6 hours ago, robblok said:

True but right now the PM is no longer a coup maker and can be voted out. But voting is not about removing corrupt officials the LAW should deal with it. The problem is that those in power seem to be able to bend the law to their will and only when out of power will investigations reveal the details of their crimes.

Ex coupe maker and now PM, seems like he is still the coupe leader, so same same 

[greeneking]

25 minutes ago, Mansell said:

Totally agree Mike. We need a million people on the street demanding that the PM and his army cronies are all removed from power for complete incompetence, and a total lack of caring for the Thai people. Time to return to Democracy for the country. 

Yes, but instead of the million they mostly get a few hundred. Brave souls, but easily ignored.

[MrJ2U]

Hopefully the whole deck of cards collapse.  Anutin, the 250 self appointed ministers, the whole damn bunch.

 

Figure it out after there all expelled from the country.

 

 

[MrJ2U]

1 hour ago, Mansell said:

Totally agree Mike. We need a million people on the street demanding that the PM and his army cronies are all removed from power for complete incompetence, and a total lack of caring for the Thai people. Time to return to Democracy for the country. 

I'm with you guys.

 

[bangon04]

"the PM's role in handling the pandemic had been characterized by unclear policies and lack of control."

 

that does sound vaguely familiar - pick a western country....

[MrJ2U]

Theres talk of Anutim replacing him.

 

That would be worse I think.

 

None of these guys deserve to be anywhere near other peoples tax money.

 

 

Edited July 27, 2021 by MrJ2U