Vaccines for foreigners: Those living upcountry to get Sinovac first

[webfact]

Image: Thansettakij

 

Thansettakij published the latest guidelines issued by the Ministry of Public Health after a web conference discussed how this related to foreigners residing in Thailand.

 

Right now those eligible for vaccination are people aged 60 and above who reside in Thailand.

 

Those from the 13 deep red zone provinces will be given Astra Zeneca first then 12 weeks later receive their second dose.

 

Foreigners in other provinces will be given Sinovac first then 3-4 weeks later Astra Zeneca. 

 

For registration of foreigners at Bang Sue station people should register in advance via the foreign ministry link, a date will be given, turn up and get vaxxed.

 

For other people in Bangkok not wanting to go to Bang Sue or for people in the provinces register at a hospital vaccination center or your regular hospital. You will be given a date for vaccination, turn up and get the job done. 

 

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[ThailandRyan]

8 minutes ago, webfact said:

Those from the 13 deep red zone provinces will be given Astra Zeneca first then 12 weeks later receive their second dose.

 

Foreigners in other provinces will be given Sinovac first then 3-4 weeks later Astra Zeneca. 

What the ?  Why ?  Of course they still have sinovac to use, how stupid of me to think otherwise.

[Neeranam]

21 minutes ago, webfact said:

Foreigners in other provinces will be given Sinovac first then 3-4 weeks later Astra Zeneca. 

Never knew the second jab could be a different vaccine. 

 

I am booked for Moderna in October, could I get the Sinovac next month too?

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8 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Never knew the second jab could be a different vaccine. 

 

I am booked for Moderna in October, could I get the Sinovac next month too?

Is there a master database the records all vaccinations whether or not they're from the government or from a private hospital? If not, then you can certainly do it.

[grandpa]

30 minutes ago, webfact said:

for people in the provinces register at a hospital vaccination center or your regular hospital. You will be given a date for vaccination, turn up and get the job done. 

But.....but..............BUT.............All the registration lists are closed and the one mentioned on Thailandintervac.com has displayed the same message for over a week now! "Bangkok Khon Kaen Hospital, Khon Kaen (The pre-registration system will be announced soon)"

[ThailandRyan]

4 minutes ago, grandpa said:

But.....but..............BUT.............All the registration lists are closed and the one mentioned on Thailandintervac.com has displayed the same message for over a week now! "Bangkok Khon Kaen Hospital, Khon Kaen (The pre-registration system will be announced soon)"

Yep system is still broken. Trying to register the GF but can not as she is not Thai and is classed as a migrant/foreign worker.

[KhunBENQ]

26 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Never knew the second jab could be a different vaccine. 

You missed a lot. It's under discussion and evaluation since weeks.

I think Thailand is not the only one.

 

Hoping that the second jab will be AZ I will take the Sinovac stuff tomorrow.

You can trust the plans/promises in this country, don't you?

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Oh Joy!!!  I'm sure all the outlying province folks are going to be overjoyed to learn the Thai government is going to grace them with Sinovac doses -- IF they can actually find any place where they live that's now giving vaccinations to foreigners.

 

And hey guys, what about the 150,000 U.S. Pfizer doses supposedly set aside for age 60+ foreign nationals in Thailand?  Have those, arriving tomorrow, suddenly evaporated somehow???

[mtls2005]

Vaccine cocktails. 

 

(Shaken preferably, to loosen that jelly consistency.)

 

So the bars are open I guess?

 

 

 

 

[Neeranam]

12 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

You missed a lot. It's under discussion and evaluation since weeks.

I think Thailand is not the only one.

 

Hoping that the second jab will be AZ I will take the Sinovac stuff tomorrow.

You can trust the plans/promises in this country, don't you?

Yes, I rarely follow the news, sorry to put you out. 

[KhunBENQ]

10 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Yes, I rarely follow the news

Keep it like that.

Better for mental health

[metisdead]

Posts denigrating and calling Chinese vaccines useless and referring to it with derogatory names has been removed.

Whilst it may be less effective in certain cases ie Delta strain it is by no means useless.

 

At the end of the day this is a Thai government sponsored vaccine and the forum and or yourself can get in trouble for comments like this so stop it.

[Henryford]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Never knew the second jab could be a different vaccine. 

 

I am booked for Moderna in October, could I get the Sinovac next month too?

No problem i always mix petrol and diesel in my car.

[Neeranam]

4 minutes ago, Henryford said:

No problem i always mix petrol and diesel in my car.

No idea what you are trying to say, get it out man. I mix E20 and gasohol in mine. 

[Rookiescot]

Would this vaccination cocktail be recognised in Western countries is you had to travel?  

[George Bowman]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Foreigners in other provinces will be given Sinovac first then 3-4 weeks later Astra Zeneca. 

This morning I got my first shot of Sinovac out here in the boonies of Phitsanulok. The AZ will follow in a few weeks. I was always taught by my father that he didn't run a restaurant and no complaining about what was on the dinner table. I applied that logic here. And I have to say that the medical folks on the ground are doing a great job under the circumstances. 

 

 

[Bluespunk]

3 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

No idea what you are trying to say, get it out man. I mix E20 and gasohol in mine. 

They are claiming mixing vaccines does not work.
 

The research coming out contradicts this claim.

 

Germany, Canada and a number of other nations are now mixing and matching vaccines. 
 

Though none are doing so with sinovac as an option as far as I know. 

[GroveHillWanderer]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Never knew the second jab could be a different vaccine. 

 

I am booked for Moderna in October, could I get the Sinovac next month too?

It's actually a fairly common practice with vaccines, known as heterologous prime-boost. As @KhunBENQmentions, several countries are doing it.

 

The basic idea is that since all vaccines are different, each affects different parts of the body's complex and multi-faceted immune system to a different extent.

 

So if for instance, one induces a better humoral response and another provokes a stronger cellular response, by combining them you can potentially get a better and more comprehensive overall boost to the immune system.

[gk10012001]

Just now, GroveHillWanderer said:

It's actually a fairly common practice with vaccines, known as heterologous prime-boost. As @KhunBENQmentions, several countries are doing it.

 

The basic idea is that since all vaccines are different, each affects different parts of the body's complex and multi-faceted immune system to a different extent.

 

So if for instance, one induces a better humoral response and another provokes a stronger cellular response, by combining them you can potentially get a better and more comprehensive overall immune response.

Yes but with some proper testing and evaluation.  This whole COVID thing does not have a lot of legs in its data and long term effects or results yet.

[Neeranam]

9 minutes ago, gk10012001 said:

Will be given, or will be available to be given.  The article wording seems dictatorial.  I can not imagine any sane foreigner volunteering for Sinovac.  Up to them though

I can't imagine any refusing it too. 

[jerrymahoney]

10 minutes ago, gk10012001 said:

I can not imagine any sane foreigner volunteering for Sinovac. 

I cannot imagine any sane foreigner in Thailand volunteering for nothing if something was available.

[puck2]

The military regime ordered Sinovac abundantly for special "reasons".

Now they want to get rid of the low quality vaccine - by all means. Before they never had falangs on their vax-lists.

[Henryford]

22 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

No idea what you are trying to say, get it out man. I mix E20 and gasohol in mine. 

It was a joke to highlight the stupidity of mixing vaccines. I thought they worked in different ways, inactivated virus vs mRNA. Does that provide protection? Have the companies tested the effect of mixing vaccines?

[GroveHillWanderer]

18 minutes ago, gk10012001 said:

Yes but with some proper testing and evaluation.  This whole COVID thing does not have a lot of legs in its data and long term effects or results yet.

Studies are currently ongoing. Most have not reached their end yet but the early indications are encouraging.

 

Here's just one example.

 

Mixed AstraZeneca-Pfizer shot boosts COVID antibody level - study

 

No vaccine has ever been proven to have long term adverse side effects (and there's no known biological mechanism whereby they would) so that's not really a major concern.

[Liverpool Lou]

23 minutes ago, gk10012001 said:

I can not imagine any sane foreigner volunteering for Sinovac. 

Why?

[Havenstreet1940]

Should I sometime in the future be offered Sinovac, I will politely decline and walk away.  I travel to the UK regularly and as I'm sure we are all aware, the UK does not accept Sinovac or Sinopharm vaccines.

 

Since it seems most likely that the UK will introduce a Vaccine Passport that will be neccesary to allow citizens to enter certain premises, i.e clubs, theatres,sporting events etc. I would not qualify forsuch a document if oneof my Thai  vaccines is either of the aforementioned vaccines.

 

I have an intention to travel to the UK shortly so I will acquire my vaccination at that time should the announcement come to pass.   

[grandpa]

I know that I am prejudiced against Sinovac, based on research findings reported in these hallowed pages, which showed that Sinovac loses 50% of its efficacy 60 days after second jab and 50% more every 40 days thereafter, but what I object to more is the lack of choice, that this statement implies.

[Neeranam]

2 minutes ago, Havenstreet1940 said:

Should I sometime in the future be offered Sinovac, I will politely decline and walk away.  I travel to the UK regularly and as I'm sure we are all aware, the UK does not accept Sinovac or Sinopharm vaccines.

I didn't know that but I do know that you don't need to have had a vaccine to enter the UK. 

[Havenstreet1940]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

I didn't know that but I do know that you don't need to have had a vaccine to enter the UK. 

Agreed.

[Neeranam]

4 minutes ago, grandpa said:

I know that I am prejudiced against Sinovac, based on research findings reported in these hallowed pages, which showed that Sinovac loses 50% of its efficacy 60 days after second jab and 50% more every 40 days thereafter, but what I object to more is the lack of choice, that this statement implies.

If you want choice in medical issues, best to go to another country. Here, we show obeisance to the doctor and never ask questions.