7 minutes ago, Olmate said:

Exactly.. They are notincluded in the 'released'totals.

Please show us where it says this. How do you explain people being released going from 9,000 to 18,000 in one week. It has until the other day been the case that recoveries were running at a bit below 50% of admissions now it's around 90%. This happened pretty well overnight. Something has to account for this. As I say released from medical care and recovered are 2 different things. I would be most grateful if yourself or anyone else can point to where there are two seperate categories. One for recovered and one for green patients released from medical care into either home or community isolation. Cheers.

2 minutes ago, anchadian said:

 

 

BANGKOK, Aug 5 (TNA) – Rescue volunteers urged the government to solve the problem of widespread substandard oximeters which they said harmed users.

 

The Thai News Agency learned from rescue volunteers supplying oxygen generators and cylinders to the houses of severe COVID-19 patients that substandard oximeters affected the rescuers’ assessment of patients’ conditions and oxygen assistance for patients in need could be dangerously delayed.

 

https://tna.mcot.net/english-news-752570

 

The concerning point here is that seriously ill covid patients are still at home having their treatment there with oxygen. Thats just not acceptable they should be in ICU being cared for properly. 

There's very little more the government can do. Semi-lockdown, keep industry moving and roll out vaccines is a good strategy. 

 

Every country has suffered with Covid without any escape. Thailand is no different and must go through the same. 

 

Lockdowns and masks won't make much difference. 

58 minutes ago, smedly said:

so you are basically saying vaccination should be No1 priority - that's something new lol

 

and in the meantime lockdown to contain until sufficient numbers are vacinated - another strategic revelation lol

 

genius 

that is really about all that can be done, other than keep working to expand/strengthen the health system.  putting the army on the roads to block travel doesn't seem feasible in this country, that type of strict measure was done in china.  in the USA, california had a strict stay at home order in place for many months but many paid no attention to it.  it is a difficult thing to do/enforce.  people here have to go to work to get money, they aren't getting enough support from the govt.  not many countries have provided sufficient support to citizens.  at this point, we've just got to ride it out.  hope vaccine delivery picks up, the health system holds up, and avoid contact with others as best you can.  alot of people have to work to survive so they can't avoid contact but do try to take precautions.  obviously some people don't but they are in the minority.  during last years lockdown period i saw alot of people w/o a mask or mask below the chin.  i don't see much of that at all now.  i think more people are serious about it than last year.

39 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

That looks to be the case -- another new category of info that they'll be reporting daily. ATK=Antigen Test Kits.

 

I'm wondering if the ATK results are in addition to the 20920 daily count.

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New dispensing machine will boost number of jabs delivered daily by 20%

 

Chulalongkorn University’s Faculty of Science, in collaboration with private agencies, has developed an automatic vaccine dispenser in a bid to relieve the burden on medics.

 

Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul said one 6.5 millilitre vial of the AstraZeneca vaccine is split into 12 doses of 0.5ml each.

 

“Since the demand for Covid-19 vaccines is high, the automatic dispenser was developed to use each vial effectively,” he said.

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/tech/40004239

This pandemic was always going to expose Thailand’s fairly unique vulnerabilities. 

 

Government corruption and wealthy Thais who will not go into their pockets to fish out the monies they embezzled. 

 

Inability to coordinate anything at the national level. 

 

Face saving making the government hide the real numbers which has a knock-on effect of people not taking it as seriously. 

 

Thais' fatalistic life philosophy. 

 

Thais' low tolerance for rules and hardship. 

 

On and on and on

 

They will not get out of this disaster for 2 years, minimum. 

3 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

That graph is best described as 'parabolic'. 

 

Indicative of the complete and total failure of this administration. 

The graph is parabolic because when you mass test asymptomatic people and PCR every person that has a light fever that's what you get. If they tested for another virus it would be the same. It's a total failure of the human brain more than this administration.

1 hour ago, utalkin2me said:

Your first point is reasonable. The rest of it you fail. 
 

How many of you have even asked yourselves, because I don’t see it if you do, “what if I was working, had three kids to feed, and my wife and I lost our jobs due to covid”. 
 

This seriously does not eve on dawn on a single person in here. Quite amazing. 

that's right.  i'm with you on that.  people have needs.  they can't stay at home as there is no food being delivered or money put in their bank.  there is only so much that can be done.  it is tough but it is the truth.  vast majority of countries go through the exact same thing.  no escaping it.  just hope to minimize damage with vaccines, a decent health system, and masks/distancing. 

Government-sponsored Covid vaccine recipients with severe side effects will receive free treatment, the Royal Gazette announced on Thursday. Vaccinations with alternative vaccines obtained in the private sector aren't eligible for free treatment.

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1423145992791101443

 

35 minutes ago, worrab said:

How about if the breadwinners are seriously affected by covid and hospitalised or die??

I think virtually everybody knows what a full lockdown entails. But hospitals need time to recover and deal with the cases they have now! They are at breaking point!

The government needs to stop pissing about and deal with the financial implications of this virus instead of burying their heads in the sand and whistling through their a***s! Some are very noticeable by the deafening silence there is at the moment!

 

What is needed is a serious wealth tax to take resources from Thailand's hi-so super-rich and redistribute those resources to the poor and middle classes so they can survive a tougher lockdown until 80% or more of the population is vaccinated (with decent vaccines) and the virus can then become just an occasional annoyance.

 

However, I predict this scenario will not unfold.

 

3 hours ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

Total number: 693,305 cases with 5,663 deaths

This might upset a few people here however these are the simulations on deaths for various diseases from 3 January 2020 to 8 April 2021 to put things into perspective, I note, Covid is at the very bottom. Please allow the green tab below the first section of the screen to finish its job tallying up the numbers, only takes a minute.

 

https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/country-health-profile/thailand

 

3 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

They have to be pulling their hair out, but then who truly is to blame.  Are there internal power struggles going on between factions and groups in play that we do not see.  I know that there has been questions over releasing funds from the budget to assist folks, but why wouldn't there be a unanimous votes to use the needed funds.  Who is bowing their backs and what do they expect in turn for supporting the move.  Personal Politics should have no bearing at this point as all people are in the same boat, or are they. Yes rhetorical questions and statements.  Stay safe.  

Prayut's focus seems to be more on stopping people criticising him than addressing the COVID crisis. Let's face it it, he's always been far less than competent as a national leader and this situation has both accelerated that failure and exposed it to many who tolerated his flaws whilst the tourist dollars flowed and kept the country afloat, if not healthy.  Prayut was never put there to serve the nation, he was put there to serve a tiny part of of the national structure, a failing that has put us in this position.

He's still trying to wear that hat and has absolutely no ideas or skills that could help greater Thailand right now. Saving his government now has a far greater priority to him than a couple of hundred daily deaths amongst the masses.

This data was released on 23 July.

https://www.astrazeneca.com/media-centre/press-releases/2021/vaxzevria-is-highly-effective-after-one-dose-against-severe-disease-or-hospitalisation-caused-by-beta-and-delta-variants-of-concern.html

 

One dose of AstraZeneca “highly effective” against different variants, study shows

 

A single dose of AstraZeneca’s Covid-19 vaccine provides “highly effective protection” against severe illness caused by Beta and Delta strains, the company said Thursday, citing real-world Canadian data.

 

In a press release, the company released results of a study by the Canadian Immunization Research Network, attesting that one dose of the vaccine was 82 per cent and 87 per cent effective against hospitalization or death caused by the Beta and the Delta variants, respectively.

 

The study also shows that the vaccine was 90 per cent effective against hospitalization or death caused by the Alpha variant, first identified in the United Kingdom.

 

https://www.thaienquirer.com/30896/one-dose-of-astrazeneca-highly-effective-against-different-variants-study-shows/

3 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Just my view, but many people have already thrown in the towel, especially the young and even some elderly, and figure if they are going to become a statistic then well life must be lived and enjoyed while it can, just like the west.  

But the difference is many western countries have endured extended lockdowns and are up to speed with vaccinations.

1 hour ago, anchadian said:

WHO calls for halting COVID-19 vaccine boosters in favor of unvaccinated

 

Aug 4 (Reuters) - The World Health Organization is calling for a halt on COVID-19 vaccine boosters until at least the end of September, its head Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said on Wednesday, as the gap between vaccinations in wealthy and poor countries widens.

 

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/who-calls-moratorium-covid-19-vaccine-booster-doses-until-september-end-2021-08-04/

Smells like communism. 

 

Countries that have invested in research and vaccine production, or purchased vaccines should not be punished for doing so. Nor should their citizens be placed at risk simply because of global inequality. 

 

As they say, beggars can't be choosers. Time for some third-world billionaires to get their hands in their pockets. 

From the 20,920 confirmed cases that were found in the past 24 hours:

 

- 17,312were found via walk-in tests at medical facilities

- 3,600 via proactive tests at known clusters

- 8 imported cases

#โควิด19 #โควิด19วันนี้ #Thailand #Covid19

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1423156255955177480

 

1 minute ago, anchadian said:

From the 20,920 confirmed cases that were found in the past 24 hours:

 

- 17,312were found via walk-in tests at medical facilities

Worrying stat that indicates actual numbers will be far, far higher. Possibly six figures. 

55 minutes ago, anchadian said:

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New dispensing machine will boost number of jabs delivered daily by 20%

 

Chulalongkorn University’s Faculty of Science, in collaboration with private agencies, has developed an automatic vaccine dispenser in a bid to relieve the burden on medics.

 

Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul said one 6.5 millilitre vial of the AstraZeneca vaccine is split into 12 doses of 0.5ml each.

 

“Since the demand for Covid-19 vaccines is high, the automatic dispenser was developed to use each vial effectively,” he said.

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/tech/40004239

Thai maths strikes again. Is the last dose unlucky or something?

34 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

This might upset a few people here however these are the simulations on deaths for various diseases from 3 January 2020 to 8 April 2021 to put things into perspective, I note, Covid is at the very bottom. Please allow the green tab below the first section of the screen to finish its job tallying up the numbers, only takes a minute.

 

https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/country-health-profile/thailand

 

Struth don’t tell them that else they won’t have anything to worry about. 
 

Strange that some chose to laugh when I posted that they were more likely to die of stress related issues than the virus. 
 

 

3 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

Struth don’t tell them that else they won’t have anything to worry about. 

 Eye roll...

 

5 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

This might upset a few people here however these are the statistics on deaths for various diseases from 3 January 2020 to 8 April 2021 to put things into perspective, I note, Covid is at the very bottom. Please allow the green tab at the bottom of the screen to finish its job tallying up the numbers, only takes a minute.

 

https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/country-health-profile/thailand

 

Deceptive statistics.

 

You show a meter comparing a 1.5 year sum of constant rate causes of death, with a recent rapidly rising (exponential) curve, which is still rising!  Comparing deaths to covid pre-Wuhan would be no less accurate.

 

Go compare COVID death rates worldwide with other death rates. COVID hit ~17,000 per day  and is again rising above 10,000. The total number of all traffic deaths worldwide is ~4300/day.  Unlike steady deaths from things like cancer and heart attack, COVID has no known upper limit.

 

4 hours ago, anchadian said:

Chonburi Public Health Office has just announced they have 1,312 new cases and 7 more deaths. Most new cases are in Chonburi City (276), Bang Lamung/Pattaya (207), and Si Racha (374). 15,759 patients are now in care #COVID19 #โควิดวันนี้ #Thailand

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1423074197400477700

Further details:

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/08/05/chonburi-announces-1312-new-and-confirmed-cases-of-covid-19-with-seven-new-deaths/

Thailand's Vaccine Tracker (Aug. 5, 2021) About 6.31% of the population is fully vaccinated. 14,783,001 (+290,616) people have received the first dose, while 4,178,702 (+92,991) have been fully inoculated. #วัคซีนโควิด19 #COVID19 #ล็อกดาวน์ #KE

https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1423161717924581377

 

Each province's daily domestic COVID-19 cases update in Thailand on Thursday

Total: 20,912

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158183705142050

 

9 minutes ago, rabas said:

Deceptive statistics.

 

You show a meter comparing a 1.5 year sum of constant rate causes of death, with a recent rapidly rising (exponential) curve, which is still rising!  Comparing deaths to covid pre-Wuhan would be no less accurate.

 

Go compare COVID death rates worldwide with other death rates. COVID hit ~17,000 per day  and is again rising above 10,000. The total number of all traffic deaths worldwide is ~4300/day.  Unlike steady deaths from things like cancer and heart attack, COVID has no known upper limit.

 

I take it you are one of those that got upset ?

 

Can't help that, I post it, you choose whether it suites or not, fact of the matter is, it's a simulator, things people can work off and I only picked Thailand, if you like, click the button on the world and compare, up to you, no deception here old son.

3 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Each province's daily domestic COVID-19 cases update in Thailand on Thursday

Total: 20,912

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158183705142050

 

Just ugly numbers continuing upwards in the North east.

1 hour ago, Sundown said:

The graph is parabolic because when you mass test asymptomatic people and PCR every person that has a light fever that's what you get. If they tested for another virus it would be the same. It's a total failure of the human brain more than this administration.

Yet to see any mass testing in Thailand, let me know when you get some evidence...........

40 minutes ago, ourmanflint said:

Thai maths strikes again. Is the last dose unlucky or something?

I think their maths is fine. That last missing dose is the 7% bonus to be 'sold to private entities' by senior officials in the health department. Think of it as a Benz fund.

52 minutes ago, anchadian said:

From the 20,920 confirmed cases that were found in the past 24 hours:

 

- 17,312were found via walk-in tests at medical facilities

- 3,600 via proactive tests at known clusters

- 8 imported cases

#โควิด19 #โควิด19วันนี้ #Thailand #Covid19

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1423156255955177480

 

5th Aug: Yet again another record high for hospital walk ins at 17,312!!

4th Aug: 16,284

 

Yesterday was 15,176 at the time a new high and the previous high was on the 1st Aug at 15,137.