12 hours ago, anchadian said:

An impossible task and we all know it. 

 

Where will all the extra med staff come from (we only see an average of 200,000 doses administered on Sat and Sun), and again, are we going to see overcrowding like say at Bang Sue station, a super spreader?

 

The govt needs to administer 550,00 daily doses from today to year end to achieve their target of 100m doses.

 

Will never happen.

 

I think the number of vaccination per day is due to the supply of the vaccine more than a question of logistics capability in Thailand. If Malaysia can do an average of 500000 doses per day consistently for a population half of Thailand, I don't see how Thailand can't at least match it, if they really want to. It's plain to see Thailand bet on the wrong horses in terms of vaccines in this case. 

Yeah maybe the REPORTED infections rates will double, and maybe this will be the truth or made up, but the rate can't do more than double all the time the number of tests is around 50,000.

https://ddc.moph.go.th/covid19-dashboard/ 

57 minutes ago, smedly said:

how ?, you're only testing 50k a day across the whole country

There is only 1 way, they have something we don't know about?

24 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

Everyone understands that a vaccination does not prevent the contraction, and potential spread of the virus. It can and does lower the viral load, reducing the spread potential.

 

No. No one thinks this.

 

Three for three on the false equivalencies.

 

 

"Stan, tell our studio audience what the ronster has won..."

 

 

By the way, the money is in the 'horn' and not the teeth.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well enjoy your lockdown that you will still be doing in 3 years , as this government seems to think they will eradicate covid completely or have you missed the last 4 months of daily nonsense they spouted ?

So, is this an admission that the economic shutdown, which is crushing millions of lives, is not working? 

 

Only Prayuth is to blame for most of this. Not fulfilling his promise to set up the roadblocks, preventing super spreaders from leaving Covid central (Bangkok) and spreading it all over the nation was a mistake of historic proportions, and they knew better. 

 

Letting his super corrupt border officials continue to work their super lucrative franshices, by letting in infected Burmese is entirely on him. 

 

And then the massive failure of the vaccination drive. A botched effort, run by men who looks like men, smell like men, but seem to be 13 years old. Starting with Anutin. 

 

I could go on and on and on. The anger is justified. He has alot of blood on his hands. 

54 minutes ago, NightSky said:

I heard from the wife’s familly village the elders are being told the first jab when available will be Sinovac not AstraZeneca as quoted above. Is it one rule for Bangkok and another for the villages? Or is it just a misprint?

 

 

They announced that a month ago - AZ first shot, sinovac second shot (bangkok and environments)....

And the reverse for the villages in provinces they have sinovac first and AZ second.  It is the govt way of getting more vaccines going at the same time.... they only receive so much AZ a month, and so much sinovac a month... so you cannot do 100% of one vaccine at the same time - and this is their answer.  Personally, of the two scenarios - I would go with sinovac first and AZ second.

8 minutes ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

They announced that a month ago - AZ first shot, sinovac second shot (bangkok and environments)...

I don't recall that. 

Any recollection of where/who announced that.

I was advise at at Bang Sue that second shot would be AZ same as first.

The gf also advised likewise. She obtained her first AZ last Monday. (not at Bang Sue)

 

Yet they let construction sites resume work since 3-4 weeks ago while nobody else can work.

6 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

So, is this an admission that the economic shutdown, which is crushing millions of lives, is not working? 

big factories are still churning out goods - we are exposed to shops closed and deserted streets so we think everything has stopped in Thailand, industrials are still running at full whack churing out their products - millions are still going to factories and working away, construction is under pressure but I bet most of it is still running, there is no lockdown in any true sense of the word 

my thai gig here soon..vervisy happy(not my wife)

1 hour ago, PMinThailand said:

I admire the patience of Thai people!

Well many more of them have become'patients' as a result of the measures..

12 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

I don't recall that. 

Any recollection of where/who announced that.

 

Pretty sure it was the health minister, and it would have been when they announced ramping up the immunization program -- and the same time they announced it as mix and match -- to which WHO said they recommended against it.   WHO's position would be normal since the three phase approval process did not test mixed vaccines and thus were not approved (in the US and many other countries) with mixing in mind (though I personally cannot see how two different vaccines many weeks apart could be worse than the worse of the two - but then I am not an expert).   I would have seen it in the other newspaper or on this newsfeed....

Lift And Let Live!

 

It's too late. The jig is up. Way past time to accept and live with it. The virus is  here to stay until this inept country can can vaccinate the population in an efficient manner with effective brands. 

 

Open up malls, parks, restaurants, beaches and pools. Open up everything, better still. Time to get on with it. Let's GO. 

 

1 hour ago, smedly said:

how ?, you're only testing 50k a day across the whole country

exactly !!  they don't have the testing capacity.  i think we all know the cases already exceed 45k per day right now, just not 'verified'. 

The incompetence of this Government in nearly every single area is well known , even to the Thai! At last, this completely inept junta are being shown for what they are. There is resistance amongst the populace but, straight away, the Government is using lockdown to quell as much as possible. I really fear that there will be a major uprising if these idiots in power do not get this vaccine rollout organised better. Having lived here for years, I worry for the lower income Thai’s, whose very life is now at serious risk.

1 hour ago, PMinThailand said:

I admire the patience of Thai people!

Patience??  They have a lifetime of being told what to do by the varying powers that control the country.  Freedom of speech hasn't really been exercised here and organized protests have been quashed whenever it grows to a point of concern.  All most do is murmur discontent within small groups and are aware they could 'disappear' if their voices get too loud.

 

2 hours ago, 2long said:

Yeah maybe the REPORTED infections rates will double, and maybe this will be the truth or made up, but the rate can't do more than double all the time the number of tests is around 50,000.

https://ddc.moph.go.th/covid19-dashboard/ 

Thanks for the link. As the stats for number of tests show (for non-Thai readers, the beige coloured panel at bottom right) the total number of tests has trended downwards over the last month from around 60K to the current risible 50K.

 

At the same time, roughly 80% of the daily infections today come from 'walk ins' (17,406 - whose tests would be part of the 49,865 total tests); 'active case finding' only accounted for 4,407. So the level of general testing is truly pathetic. There simply is no mass testing. 

 

However, with more and more rapid tests now being used (the 4,716 ATK figure today) that's likely to push the numbers up a lot. 

 

I don't bother following the daily briefings because they're invariably tedious, pointless and depressing, but am I right in thinking CCSA has now quietly stopped talking about finding new 'clusters' ... the whole country is one giant cluster[<deleted>].

 

 

 

The Phuket muppet in charge said the "Scam-box" would save all of Thailand, . . . once all of Phuket was vaccinated.???????? Noob!

Another Rooters scaremonging piece. Thailand predicts. Who in Thailand predicts this? So Thailand the country is predicting  this.

1 hour ago, ronster said:

When is someone going to tell those in charge that you can still get covid even after you have been vaccinated !! 
Are they thinking if they vaccinate everyone that covid will magically disappear ? 
Utterly farcical and as much point as looking for unicorn teeth !!

I don't agree.  The rated efficacy of each vaccine is the % reduction in the rate of infection after the required number of doses.  The vaccine prevents infection by a certain tested percentage AND it prevents serious consequences in those who do get infected.  Also, it is more difficult for Covid to morph into another variant in a person who has been vaccinated than it is in an easy target of one who has not been vaccinated.  If 100% of the population were vaccinated, the theory is Covid will stop morphing and will weaken to become one of the Covid variants similar to the ones that cause the common cold.  Yes we will never be rid of Covid 19 but if we protect the people from serious illness and cause a weakening of the disease..we win.

Jetts Gyms are extremely safe environments, they are run very efficiently, with real social distancing methods, like every second treadmill being disabled to ensure SPACE is respected/protected. Masks are worn, and staff are very efficent in cleaning surfaces constantly after use.

Look at your Khlong long boats or the cash register lines at Makro marts and tell me social distancing is being employed by people! 

A healthy person of any age is more likely to survive COVID than an unhealthy person! Most gym users really care about their own health, they wear plastic gloves, distance and wipe surfaces, etc, they also want to go UN INFECTED! The present lockdowns are NOT working. Vaccinate EVERYONE NOW that is the answer to this problem. I repeat where is the promised ONE MILLION vax per day in AUGUST??? 14th August 2021 TODAY, I don't see those huge tents outside Tesco etc being used!?

WHY NOT?

Prayut and Big Joke better get on this...full re-opening to international tourists is October 1.

Thailand needs to get everyone vaccinated and not be exporting AstraZeneca to other countries.  Take care of your own people first!  Get rid of the curfew and stop the lockdown.  Masks, vaccination and social distancing....end of story.  Don't make it worse.  People are stressed out enough.

Infections are on crowded places such as factories, construction areas, buses, BTS, trains, all public transport etc so let us open our restaurants, we're closed for no reason as you can see lockdown doesn't help, sorry just talking to myself in the mirror????

17 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Current travel restrictions and containment measures in place over the past month have yet to make an impact, the taskforce said.

Well of course they haven't, as the police are evidently refusing to enforce them. I've yet to see a single report of road blocks and checkpoints enforcing the interprovincial travel ban between deep red zones and, at least in Pattaya, many people are simply ignoring the curfew, the cops don't seem to care. I assume if a lowly farang like myself is aware of this, then the authorities making these ridiculous statements are aware of the situation too, and the focus should be on getting police compliance with the government's orders, not on dreaming up some fantasy other-world of yet more restrictions. The big question, though, is why the cops are ignoring Prayut, is this a sign that his days are numbered?

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Only Prayuth is to blame for most of this. Not fulfilling his promise to set up the roadblocks, preventing super spreaders from leaving Covid central (Bangkok) and spreading it all over the nation was a mistake of historic proportions, and they knew better. 

 

Yes, like brother and sister last week picking up sick coughing father in BKK, bringing him home to Isaan. And banning him to the hut in the rice field. While they happily walk around everywhere, including the Sunday market. Surely not an isolated case?

15 hours ago, DLock said:

How do they define that the lockdown has been "20% effective", when numbers continue to rise?

The fundamental question is, will I be as effective as a boss like my dad was? And I will be, even more so? But until I am, it's going to be hard to verify that I think I'll be more effective.

2 hours ago, smedly said:

industrials are still running at full whack

Auto production has slowed due to 'parts shortage'. Toyota closed three plants in June.

17 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

"The lockdown has been 20% effective but the infections continue to rise, projected to reach about 45,000 cases per day by the start of or mid September," spokesman Taweesin Wisanuyothin told a news conference.

20 % effective over the past Month

That equates to 80 % ineffective

80 % ineffective means it just aint working.

What is the problem trying to understand this issue

lunatics really are running the Asylum.

2 hours ago, smedly said:

big factories are still churning out goods - we are exposed to shops closed and deserted streets so we think everything has stopped in Thailand, industrials are still running at full whack churing out their products - millions are still going to factories and working away, construction is under pressure but I bet most of it is still running, there is no lockdown in any true sense of the word 

A full 20% of the economy was tourism based. Both domestic and international tourism is nearly dead now. Add in the cash vendors, who are mostly shut down at this time in the deep red provinces, and you have 5-9 million people out of work. The impact of this is devastating, no matter how much you try to whitewash the pain of the masses.