2021 Beach Promenade rebuild is happening......Any opinions......Poll

[redwood1]

Here are some drawing of what the promenade makeover will most likely look like...I have added a few old promenade pictures for comparison.......

 

The things I notice from these drawings is I don't see any shade trees and hardly any seating......Also no plants, shrubs or anything of that nature....Just lots and lots of Palm trees......

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Richard 2020]

Just an environment for quality tourists!!!

And they don't sit on a beach promenade if there is no adequate offer of food and drinks. 
Especially not toilets ;-)

THAT do only cheap tourists!

[champers]

I chose "don't care one way or another" because however it turns out it will change again in 5 years or so. Plus, I sit on the beach rather than the prom which will likely be crammed with vendors and folk getting on or off the Koh Larn boats.

[guzzi850m2]

No shade, what a shame.

 

The old trees that was there before giving good shade was really nice but no, they didn't want them as well.

 

How odd they are now spending many millions on this project while Pattaya citizens are starving and needs shelter in larger and larger numbers!!

[fredscats]

2022 should show a more uplifting image...everything torn apart by storms

[carlyai]

There's a couple of firsts in those pictures.

1. A dog on a lease.

2. Safe wheelchair access.

That's never going to happen. 

[actonion]

Drawings only, but nothing like the real thing

[Henryford]

5 hours ago, carlyai said:

There's a couple of firsts in those pictures.

1. A dog on a lease.

2. Safe wheelchair access.

That's never going to happen. 

3. Complete paving stones. Only 90% will be done so farangs can trip over the holes.

[BigStar]

When the Promenade was redone on

18 hours ago, guzzi850m2 said:

The old trees that was there before giving good shade was really nice but no, they didn't want them as well.

Gone since 2014?

[BigStar]

A few artists' impressions of questionable accuracy probably ain't worth an orgy of the usual knickers soiling. We do enjoy pot stirring quite a lot, however.

 

We've seen the "drawings effect" before. In general, we should try to avoid another outbreak of the dreaded incurable Tic-Related Promenade OCD (TRPOCD). After that 40-page muthah of all doomster threads Widening Of Beach Rd Started At North End, many of our posters were left decimated that their Death prophecies failed to come true and more tourists than ever were using the Promenade. Well, except for now, what with COVID.????

 

TRPOCD seems to be have been contained, finally, except in one of our posters, compelled to write the occasional Tic now and then. 

 

Happily, that Ultimate Doom thread did serve as the usual reliable inverse indicator. The DESTRUCTION of Dead Pattaya had been chanted, confirmed, echoed, celebrated, and blessed for an entire year. So, about three months later, Holiday Inn started accepting bookings for its new Executive Tower. The following year, 8.1 million tourists ("overnight international visitors") stayed in Pattaya, representing a 10% growth from 2014, according to MasterCard’s Inaugural Asia Pacific Destinations Index.

 

Then the share price of Central Pattana rose sharply to an all-time closing high set on May 7 of 57.25: an increase of 39% off the low in one month!

 

But nowadays we got a new Death thread every week or so. This should be quite an economic revival when it comes. 'Course, there's hardly any place to go but up--from here, right?

 

WELL ANYWAY. . .

 

This ain't no big redevelopment of the Promenade, no "new Promenade" as our pot-stirrers are trying to portray it.

 

It's merely a few delayed upgrades we all so much enjoyed sneering at last year:

 

160 million baht Pattaya beach renovation to be started at the end of this year

 

The renovation will consist of repaired and renewed footpaths, more green zones, more parking areas and underground toilets.

 

Which, on its face, addresses some long-standing whinges voiced here. The lack of parking was decried as early as two decades ago.

 

We'll see how it goes, if it goes this time. As @champers wisely counseled at the end last time,

 

Patience is a virtue and Geena is a punk rocker!
     —champers, 2014-04-30 01:29:07

 

Yeah. Sheena, too.

 

Edited August 16, 2021 by BigStar

[chicowoodduck]

Here is a kind and positive thought....way not just pave the entire <deleted> beach from one end to the other and be done with it....????????

[chicowoodduck]

22 minutes ago, BigStar said:

A few artists' impressions of questionable accuracy probably ain't worth an orgy the usual knickers soiling. We do enjoy pot stirring quite a lot, however.

 

We've seen the "drawings effect" before. In general, we should try to avoid another outbreak of the dreaded incurable Tic-Related Promenade OCD (TRPOCD). After that 40-page muthah of all doomster threads Widening Of Beach Rd Started At North End, many of our posters were left decimated that their Death prophecies failed to come true and more tourists than ever were using the Promenade. Well, except for now, what with COVID.????

 

TRPOCD seems to be have been contained, finally, except in one of our posters, compelled to write the occasional Tic now and then. 

 

Happily, that Ultimate Doom thread did serve as the usual reliable inverse indicator. The DESTRUCTION of Dead Pattaya had been chanted, confirmed, echoed, celebrated, and blessed for an entire year. So, about three months later, Holiday Inn started accepting bookings for its new Executive Tower. The following year, 8.1 million tourists ("overnight international visitors") stayed in Pattaya, representing a 10% growth from 2014, according to MasterCard’s Inaugural Asia Pacific Destinations Index.

 

Then the share price of Central Pattana rose sharply to an all-time closing high set on May 7 of 57.25: an increase of 39% off the low in one month!

 

But nowadays we got a new Death thread every week or so. This should be quite an economic revival when it comes. 'Course, there's hardly any place to go but up--from here, right?

 

WELL ANYWAY. . .

 

This ain't no big redevelopment of the Promenade, no "new Promenade" as our pot-stirrers are trying to portray it.

 

It's merely a few delayed upgrades we all so much enjoyed sneering at last year:

 

160 million baht Pattaya beach renovation to be started at the end of this year

 

The renovation will consist of repaired and renewed footpaths, more green zones, more parking areas and underground toilets.

 

Which, on its face, addresses some long-standing whinges voiced here. The lack of parking was decried as early as two decades ago.

 

We'll see how it goes, if it goes this time. As @champers wisely counseled at the end last time,

 

Patience is a virtue and Geena is a punk rocker!
     —champers, 2014-04-30 01:29:07

 

Yeah. Sheena, too.

 

No need for the knot in the knickers....this is just a wind-up by the kind folks at City Hall.....????????

[bbko]

"Love it" is too strong of an option, how about "I'm in favor of it"?

 

I'm all for trying to improve the appearance of Beach Road, but if it's still going to filled with pickpocketing ladyboys, dirty hookers and rats I won't spend much time there.

[Destiny1990]

To widen the promenade and to narrow that 5 lane highway that run  besides it into a 2 lane max 30 km road is an improvement. add more shades trees and benches. Make more crossings and more traffic lights make it car unfriendly ban any bus.

[thaibeachlovers]

C'mon man.The type of tourist they want doesn't actually walk. They are driven in their limos. They don't need shade or seats.

Besides, the promenade will be too dangerous to walk on with all the hoons riding their m'bikes at high speed.

[thaibeachlovers]

2 hours ago, BigStar said:

The renovation will consist of repaired and renewed footpaths, more green zones, more parking areas and underground toilets.

Given their track record of maintaining footpaths in the city and even the present promenade I'll not be holding my breath on that. They're not too bad on new constructions, but maintenance seems to be unknown to them.

 

Given that they destroyed the only down town park long ago, what caused this environmental reversal? Could we trust them on that?

 

Underground toilets .

Given the propensity of beach Rd to flood after a brief sunshower, they'd better have good pumps in them. Also, when was the last time any of us used a public toilet in Thailand? All the ones I've used are provided by private business, and some were dire. I've actually been in a public toilet by the Phayao lake but it had been abandoned and was unusable.

[thaibeachlovers]

2 hours ago, BigStar said:

The lack of parking was decried as early as two decades ago.

The less parking in Pattaya the better. There are far too many vehicles on Pattaya roads and baht buses are cheap. Lets make it harder for cars, not easier.  Dedicated baht bus lanes for a start.

[thaibeachlovers]

2 hours ago, chicowoodduck said:

Here is a kind and positive thought....way not just pave the entire <deleted> beach from one end to the other and be done with it....????????

They could, but the sand would just wash away from under the paving and create big holes. It's not, IMO, as though they would actually put down a proper base as that would cost money and less for the usual suspects, which IMO is what any council multi million baht project in Pattaya is about. After all, the present promenade kept collapsing when the sand washed away.

Not helped by them apparently not knowing what drains are for.

 

Up north, by the Mekong, I saw them build a new road for trucks with a layer of tarseal on top of red dirt! Why would Pattaya do a better job?

[Nanaplaza666]

22 hours ago, Richard 2020 said:

Just an environment for quality tourists!!!

And they don't sit on a beach promenade if there is no adequate offer of food and drinks. 
Especially not toilets ????

THAT do only cheap tourists!

There will be enough food and drinks around when open and they are going to built toilets (i think even underground from what i heard) . The only thing that i didn't hear in the whole story was that there are going to be enough garbage bins around maybe instead of those underground toilets some underground garbage containers and a truck to empty them , because we all know the most garbage bins are in front of family and 7/11 . So i wonder what it will look like after it's done and open a few weeks (same as the rest of the place i geuss and looks like it lacks a couple of garbage bins)

[ronjomtien]

Don't need it. Just payoff money to Nong Nooch for shutting them down 18 months. Saw gigantic truck with 4 immense roots being hauled away. Tree karma will get these bastds. This mafia mayor should go to hell.

[thailien8]

Horrible sights Sunday and today as all the old shade trees are being ripped out by the roots and destroyed.  Makes me sick.

[thaibeachlovers]

5 minutes ago, ronjomtien said:

Don't need it. Just payoff money to Nong Nooch for shutting them down 18 months. Saw gigantic truck with 4 immense roots being hauled away. Tree karma will get these bastds. This mafia mayor should go to hell.

I don't know if Thais believe in hell, but karma will get all involved in that act of vandalism.

Perhaps Pattaya will go to hell, or at least get washed away in a flood.

I'm not there now, but to read the posts, some think it's hell already.

[3NUMBAS]

its too late to save so wasted money really

[FalangJaiDee]

I hate to sound so crude, but as long as the access to cuties is not impinged or restricted by any of the changes I don’t care. 
 

yep, I’m a base animal 

Edited August 16, 2021 by FalangJaiDee
wrong spelling

[Doctor Tom]

I have visited Pattaya for the best part of 20 years and lived in the vicinity for a few more.  In all of those years, they have been repeatedly digging up and re modelling beach road and the promenade,every single year, bar none. Its a never ending 'vision quest' that, while there are bucks to be made/salted away/ripped off , they will keep on going. 

[redwood1]

1 hour ago, thailien8 said:

Horrible sights Sunday and today as all the old shade trees are being ripped out by the roots and destroyed.  Makes me sick.

 

This is meant to be a 2 year project....

 

Has anyone noticed what they put their FULL UNDIVIDED attention on, on the very FIRST day of this project? Drum-roll please..................................

 

Yes you guessed it........Cutting down ALL (as in every last one) of the shade trees......

 

So why the supper BIG rush? On a 2 year project?.....

 

My guess is because they know what they do is wrong....

And chopping the trees is going the make many people unhappy.....

 

But it does not matter, because they hate the shade trees and want them all gone.....100% gone....forever................
So they all must be chopped immediately.....

Edited August 16, 2021 by redwood1

[Doctor Tom]

50 minutes ago, FalangJaiDee said:

I hate to sound so crude, but as long as the access to cuties is not impinged or restricted by any of the changes I don’t care. 
 

yep, I’m a base animal 

'Cuties', on Beach road? I don't think so. 

[redwood1]

I hope you guys like Palm trees........

 

Because that is the ONLY tree that is going to be on the promenade from one end to the other......( except for a few coconut trees here and there) Even though I bet most of the coconut trees will also end up getting chopped........ 

[scubascuba3]

Started killing those nice trees already, kinda hoped it would just be coconut trees

Edited August 16, 2021 by scubascuba3

[scubascuba3]

Looks like it's been paused already due to complaints by influencial people...