RJRS1301 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, itsari said: Dr search engines can and are manipulated OSD: irony1 /ˈʌɪrəni/ noun the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect. "‘Don't go overboard with the gratitude,’ he rejoined with heavy irony" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronster Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 It being good is about as truthful as this all starting from bat soup ! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony125 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 3 hours ago, actonion said: China guarantee's ? thats a laugh with the <deleted> they produce..The only thing that lasts longer than 12 months in China is this Virus My wife said she won't buy anything more from Chinese web site. I bought compresion runing shorts from their site 579 baht but they sent me a cheap one that listed for 90 baht on their site. She ordered sheets for 3,000 aht and when they came was not the quality she expected and looked cheap not like the photos they showed. She bought 2 outfits for 1,000 baht that she is sending back says tired won't buy from them anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WhiteBuffaloATM Posted September 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 4, 2021 always assume everything this brutal terrorist regime says are lies. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John Drake Posted September 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 4, 2021 1 hour ago, mommysboy said: No, it's not. It met WHO standards. Sinovac does seem to provide much less Covid protection than the mRNA vaccines (I'm not sure that AZ is all that much better than Sinovac). That said, I opted for Sinovac because I have a vestibular disorder and Pfizer and Moderna were causing problems, some severe, with people with my condition. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farangdk Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 Of course the Chinese say that. They think everything coming out of their country is so good and great. In my eyes it is all a bunch of <deleted>. So, why should their vaccine be any better. I wouldn't dare to get it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsari Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Tony125 said: My wife said she won't buy anything more from Chinese web site. I bought compresion runing shorts from their site 579 baht but they sent me a cheap one that listed for 90 baht on their site. She ordered sheets for 3,000 aht and when they came was not the quality she expected and looked cheap not like the photos they showed. She bought 2 outfits for 1,000 baht that she is sending back says tired won't buy from them anymore. Difficult to send back a vaccine after one has received the goods . I don't think your partners experience buying Chinese bed sheets has any bearing on the quality of Chinese vaccines. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 1 hour ago, sungod said: They are gutted they are losing the vaccine diplomacy war with the US and UK stepping in with better quality vaccines. China's latest diversion: Aug. 11, 2021 "Chinese sources .... claim that Covid-19 was made in the US. Chinese propagandists have pushed a conspiracy suggesting that the Covid-19 coronavirus was made and leaked from the military installation in Frédéric, Maryland .." https://www.bbc.com The Chinese news comes from state media (eg., Xinhua News) that would require permission from the CCP to publish. I believe such media further characterizes US spread of Covid-19 as an "attack" against China. War? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gearbox Posted September 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 4, 2021 32 minutes ago, pjmorton said: In fairness, Sinovac was the first vaccine available here. At the time it was better than nothing. But it was purchased, not donated as the posted article implies. The consumers are entitled to form their own opinions as to whether they got good value, and whether it makes sense to buy more. So give credit where due, while continuing to search for better alternatives. The "consumer" in Thailand doesn't have generally any entitlement - they are usually not given a choice of vaccine. To get to that stage a country needs to have surplus of vaccines. Take for example Hungary - one can choose from 6 different vaccines - 3 Western, 2 Chinese and 1 Russian. Yesterday they had 247 cases and 1 deaths. Sinovac does some good work and the proof is the next door Cambodia - 52% fully vaccinated, 491 cases yesterday, 9 deaths. Would the figures be better with Pfizer - possibly, but they just don't have the quantities. Thailand can only dream for such numbers. Looks like the CoE for entry will be around for a while. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 If the Chinese (gangster) embassy had to make a statement to "assure" the Thai public that their country's vaccines are not trash, then you know for sure that they are. When did Xi Jinping get is jab of Sinovac or Sinopharm? Oh wait, he didn't.... There was a recent report that Kim Jong Un refused the Chinese garbage vaccine too. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussieroaming Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 Of course Sinovac works, it was engineered in the same laboratory as the virus and that works a treat. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 (edited) Vaccine diplomacy has backfired on China, and delivered a rare victory to the US. Actually China has a point - SV is unjustly disparaged here. But China must know how brand-conscious Thais are - and a Chinese brand still can’t match the cachet of a good US brand. China’s embassy in Bangkok pushes back at people who “slander” Sinovac (translation via Google) https://twitter.com/pakhead/status/1434046486354952197 Edited September 4, 2021 by anchadian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMFWolfie Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 3 hours ago, mtls2005 said: Thanks perfesser, not condescending at all. ???? It is black and white: The thai regime feels the need to administer boosters to all with sinovac 2X, and the regime will stop using sinovac as of November. And when you're trying to convince a population that vaccinations are safe and effective, there are only two outcomes. So not complex at all. And if I recall the suggestion is to use AZ as a 2nd dose to everyone who has a first dose of Sinovac to give it some chance of increasing the effectiveness above 50%!! Have heard stories of people having had two shots of Sinovac and a few month later not finding any of the anti-bodies provided by this vaccine in the body. This points to the effectiveness not lasting but then again this came from Thai social media groups so read into it as you will.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony125 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 10 minutes ago, itsari said: Difficult to send back a vaccine after one has received the goods . I don't think your partners experience buying Chinese bed sheets has any bearing on the quality of Chinese vaccines. MYOB I was answering a poster that mentioned a lot of things made in China are low quality. I did not realise that and thats why ordered products but after recieviing them saw they didn't live up to expectations unlike when ordering from US companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudarut Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 4 hours ago, webfact said: They said that some people and some organisations in Thailand were denigrating Sinovac without any good reason. Maybe because you poisoned 300,000 babies with contaminated infant formula. Or perhaps it's the your toxic counterfeit food industry. Could be the fact your citizens are infected with a disease where an elderly person can collapse in the street having a heart attack or a child be kidnapped and people will ignore it and continue on their on with their business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsari Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Tony125 said: MYOB I was answering a poster that mentioned a lot of things made in China are low quality. I did not realise that and thats why ordered products but after recieviing them saw they didn't live up to expectations unlike when ordering from US companies. Thank you for your reply Tony . I am rather sensitive to many posters here that condemn anything that is not western . Sorry if i offended you . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETERTHEEATER Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 The Covid virus supplied by China too is 'not low quality which is a pity.....???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsari Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sudarut said: Maybe because you poisoned 300,000 babies with contaminated infant formula. Or perhaps it's the your toxic counterfeit food industry. Could be the fact your citizens are infected with a disease where an elderly person can collapse in the street having a heart attack or a child be kidnapped and people will ignore it and continue on their on with their business. Thalidomide may interest you. Public unwilling to get involved is everywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeItHot Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 They gave the world the virus. Every shot should come with 1000000 baht bonus for Thais Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjakob007 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 3 hours ago, WEBBYB808 said: goods are made without quality in mind The only thing they made and lasted long is 'Covid-19' 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandeventer Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 3 hours ago, mtls2005 said: Sinovac it is NOT a low quality vaccine Yea, they need some help on messaging. Help: Sinovac is a HIGH quality vaccine Lets ask the Chinese people what they think of it, without a gun to their head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted September 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 4, 2021 4 hours ago, webfact said: They pointed out they were the first country to come to Thailand's assistance in the vaccine fight against Covid-19. Did they also point out that Thailand was the first country they gave the virus to? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 2 hours ago, jacko45k said: Does it matter, rarely comprehensible. And lacking in substance... a bit like certain vaccines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AhFarangJa Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 4 hours ago, webfact said: They pointed out they were the first country to come to Thailand's assistance in the vaccine fight against Covid-19. How magnanimous of them when you consider this virus came from them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted September 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 4, 2021 (edited) On top of it, It's not cheap ($9/dose, if I remember well). That's about half the price of Pfizer jabs, but around twice the price of AZ jabs. China obviously made a lot of money with it. Edited September 4, 2021 by candide 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AhFarangJa Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 (edited) Chinese Embassy Bangkok: Sinovac, it is NOT a low quality vaccine There, fixed that for them. Edited September 4, 2021 by AhFarangJa 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteBuffaloATM Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 chinas products are either designs stolen from the west, poor quality or counterfeit. buyer beware….. their CCP maniac terror regime, like their buddies in N Korea, is straight out of Orwells 1984…..a boot stamping on humanitys face forever……. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 2 hours ago, ourdon said: If the Chinese say it is not a poor quality vaccine, I believe them. It seems we have a high quality vaccine that doesn't work well against covid delta. semantics ..... shy3te And we should never question an authority as noble, gracious, kind, and honest as the CCP. How dare we question them, and show such a lack of fealty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 2 hours ago, rcuthbert said: Begging the question - "what do the professors of Virology have to say?" They're all posting here, just have a read! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Will B Good said: 2 hours ago, rcuthbert said: Begging the question - "what do the professors of Virology have to say?" We don't listen to experts......what's the latest on YouTube? Don't worry, it's all being regurgitated here by the Thaivisa professors, no need to check YT. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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