High season kicking off. WS here i am.. ???????? ????????

Reopen simply means

"Able to fill out all the required forms and get the correct certificates and then be subjected to whatever length of quarentine and covid testing and any other restrictions they come up with to go to a specific area in thailand"

 

It definitely doesnt mean that you can just buy a plane ticket, arrive, go through immigration, and go on your merry way to enjoy an area with all businesses open and no curfew

It's just a plan to convert Thailand into an open prison instead of one with locked doors!

29 minutes ago, Guderian said:

It's just a plan to convert Thailand into an open prison instead of one with locked doors!

....and no one is coming. 

It might be in their best interests to get a firm understanding of why they won't come. 

Tomorrows announcement.....The minister of ......... says that foreigners entering Thailand should quarantine. 

I have a feeling when Pattaya re-opens it's going to be another Phuket scenario all over again.

FOURTH PHASE:  (2 January 2022) No extra insurance anymore.

 

FIFTH PHASE: (3 January 2022 and onwards) Back to normal.

 

Or, or.....?

24 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

I have a feeling when Pattaya re-opens it's going to be another Phuket scenario all over again.

It depends on your definition of re-opens.

Things are improving for returning expats and other pats and still nothing but belly aching. Agreed coming to Thailand isn't great for the regular tourist but for long time visitors things are getting better. Staying 7 days in a beach resort in Phuket before you go home doesn't sound like torture to me.

Wonder if the point is lost on them that few people will want to come to a country that is currently as boring as hell and where all they can do is wander round malls and then eat in their rooms if they want a drink with their meal.  They seem to be convinced that Thailand is so wonderful that people just want to come, regardless.  For what exactly?? ????

When they keep changing everything hour to hour it's hard to gain the confidence of potential tourists. Just open u already, you've already killed your economy and a lot of your people needlessly

11 hours ago, Tim207 said:

 

 

PS: i cant believe the acronym  "w.....t.......f" is a banned term. Essential term when discussing many subjects here.

Actually, that term should be one of the standard buttons along with like, thanks, haha, confused...

6 minutes ago, skorp13 said:

When they keep changing everything hour to hour it's hard to gain the confidence of potential tourists. Just open u already, you've already killed your economy and a lot of your people needlessly

To be honest, the number of actual changes is far less than the number of bogus pronouncements from unnamed authorities or from TAT. 

43 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Staying 7 days in a beach resort in Phuket before you go home doesn't sound like torture to me.

Does to me if I were to get a false pos test (statistically 1/200 per test which means 3/200 right now) or test pos and be asymptomatic (not that unlikely for someone like me who is vaccinated and also recovered and unlikely to get symptomatic even if I get newly infected by a local) and then forced into a 14-day hospital stay. 

Just like any government announcement. A load of hot air. Notice that the 1 November has now become 1-30 November. Last month it was 1 October. Free beer tomorrow!

10 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

I do believe it was bars which caused the last wave.

While I do believe there was the "Thonglor" outbreak, bars are hardly the main cause of outbreaks. Factories, migrants and migrant work camps, had significantly larger outbreaks. Travel home for Songkran probably the biggest catalyst for this years spread. You can sit in a restaurant indoors with many others but not a bar? Massive markets and shopping malls open with hundreds but 5-10 people in a bar are the threat? How about only outside tables for bars, beach bars, etc. No, its not bars, but rather the government believes alcohol fuels and intensifies all negative activity in the Kingdom. So, they either accept that outcome or ban alcohol forever. 

2 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

It depends on your definition of re-opens.

Same as Phuket?

This is very simple, this "government "does not want the country to open. They want the tourist economy to fail. When that happens they can attempt to remold the country from a cheap backpacker destination, to high class world French Riviera , which we all know will never happen. Read the American and British intelligence dossier on this Prime Minster. He HATES alcohol, bars, and the girly bars. Why do you think they want to reinvent Pattaya ?  This guy is avid Tea drinker and ultra right Buddha. This virus is a godsend to his cause. Close all the bars, message shops, and shut down the girls, and get ready for all the private jets, and yachts. Of course who will benefit from all this ? Not the woman selling Leo, and street food that is for sure. We are taking about a virus with a less than 1 percent fataliy rate, and not to mention the rise in pneumonia caused by wearing a cloth over your nose and mouth. 

 Thailand is a cheap exotic backpacker destination, forgot your jets and yachts, and high spenders, concentrate on what made Thailand what it is. Get rid of the COE, ASQ, and all that bu**s*it. Open the country up, like Mexico, Georgia, Norway, and more. Don't make it a crime to have beer or glass of wine and watch the sunset, or go to bar and buy couple drinks for a bar girl so she can afford to eat that night, AND don't treat me like have ebola, I'm vaccinated , and tested negative, I have more of chance of GETTING than GIVING the virus. Let me come back and spend my money with the local Thais, and help them as you don't give a damm about their welfare. 

And , usual, these announcements amount to not until they are published in the gazette or through official channels.

 

Until then it is all little more than optimism.

2 hours ago, JCP108 said:

Does to me if I were to get a false pos test (statistically 1/200 per test which means 3/200 right now) or test pos and be asymptomatic (not that unlikely for someone like me who is vaccinated and also recovered and unlikely to get symptomatic even if I get newly infected by a local) and then forced into a 14-day hospital stay. 

You paint a gloomy picture, luckily for me I don't worry too much about what ifs. Looking forward to a trip back to home country and also getting back here without being locked up in a hotel room. I'll take my chances.

A few tourists may go Thailand, but a lot will not.  The curfew has not been lifted.  

2 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

You paint a gloomy picture, luckily for me I don't worry too much about what ifs. Looking forward to a trip back to home country and also getting back here without being locked up in a hotel room. I'll take my chances.

The gloom is being lifted for most whilst a few try and cling on. 

Enjoy. 

14 hours ago, 2 is 1 said:

How to F can travel Loei (Chiang Khan). Yes Loei has airport (1-3 flight/day) from Don Mueang! Still has 65 kilometer to Chiang Khan, where has nothing! In Chiang Khan has walking street and Mekong river nothing else. Yes and new "Sky walk", hardly has nothing to do more than 1 DAY!

Eh?

 

14 hours ago, Tim207 said:

PS: i cant believe the acronym  "w.....t.......f" is a banned term. Essential term when discussing many subjects here.

TV is not what it once was. 

As a tourist you’ve got to have your head read if contemplating going; to what, sit on the beach with a mask on before retiring to boring hotel room to watch Thai tv lol.

 

Wouldn’t contemplate it until complete cessation of shenanigans. next year, folks. 

4 hours ago, pops1 said:

Tomorrows announcement.....The minister of ......... says that foreigners entering Thailand should quarantine. 

Is that all foreigners, or just dirty foreigners?

15 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Come on here is recent snap of JayJay market on a Sunday 2pm.

Joint was thumping.

Very lovely experience. NOT!!

I went to the plant market there last week, I’d estimate no more than 40% of traders there and very few customers.

15 hours ago, Tim207 said:

PS: i cant believe the acronym  "w.....t.......f" is a banned term. Essential term when discussing many subjects here.

Indeed. Why would Welcome To Facebook be so controversial?

8 hours ago, Niteowl45 said:

For what it's worth, at the local consulate they told me, just this morning, that as of October first the ASQ will be reduced to one week for sure (only for fully vaccinated people). The guy I talked to just told me to make sure I don't book anything before October first and yeah, the ASQ will be 1 week.

 

Still, I agree this announcement lacks many details... So will Hua HIn and other places reopening in November be along the Sandbox model? Will SHA hotels still be mandatory? How long will it be before visitors are allowed to travel freely? What happens if you do test positive exactly>

Lack of clarity is still a major issue

 

Furthermore

Do they not realize that right now only total idiots are even considering going to Thailand for tourism? (No offense guys, but with all the bars closed and the cops empowered to arrest people drinking outside, curfews etc going there now for tourism just doesn't make any sense)

The only people who want to go want to reunite with family or girlfriends (or possibly other reasons, like work related), their lack of clarity and ridiculous rules (ASQ, SHA hotels, insurance, etc) are mostly just scaring them off.....

Thailand is more surreal than ever. If I didn't have a girlfriend there I wouldn't even consider visiting in the near future.

 

Also, wi

Spot on

6 hours ago, zzaa09 said:

....and no one is coming. 

It might be in their best interests to get a firm understanding of why they won't come. 

I am starting to think they are using these new measures on purpose to cover up the lack of long term attractiveness of Thailand, because if indeed everything was re-open, and no tourists would be coming, then they would have to face the harsh reality that Thailand is no longer the center of the world

5 hours ago, hotchilli said:

I have a feeling when Pattaya re-opens it's going to be another Phuket scenario all over again.

They are saying that 'Entertainamnet Venues' will not be opening for the time being anyway and what else is there ?  We all know the main attractions in Pattaya and it's not the Beach !