Health ministry unveils preliminary criteria for November 1 quarantine lifting

[Leonard Desharnais]

Remember that there are a lot of Thais that do not want foreigners here yet. Can not blame the average Thai as the govt has scared the hell out of them over the past year. No matter what the govt decides it will end up being wrong as they must keep certain criteria to satisfy the Thais and I really doubt there will be very many visitors without everything opened so right now they as Fox news says, ' it is a Shiff show

[scorecard]

2 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

 

How will these expenses be collected?

 

This is an improvement but won't satisfy those who want the pre-COVID "experience"*.

 

COVID $100,000 insurance? CoE?

 

 

 

2 hours ago, RafPinto said:

`The  real estate "Doctor" in action.

PM says zero quarantine for double vaccinated, neg report at check-in, rapid test on arrival, result in 15-20 minutes then freedom to travel.

 

Anutin says PCR test on arrival and 1 night quarantine (but maybe that depends on what time your flight arrives at swampy), if test negative freedom to travel anywhere.

 

So once again it's not clear what the rule is?

 

Do I book one night at ASQ hotel, will that be done by the health ministry? 

 

Until it's all clear travelers can't make bookings for domestic travel after they arrive in LOS.

 

Again travelers unsure what they need to do / whether they want to travel at all.

 

Confusion is the standard. 

[wazzupnow]

i think tourist should be worried about getting covid in thailand, i think this risk is bigger than bringing covid to the kingdom

vaccinations here are below average compared to the western countries

[Burma Bill]

What, no facemask "Mr. Concrete" ????

[Scouse123]

1 hour ago, StayinThailand2much said:

And you won't know the full details until Oct. 29th or 30th...

 

I don't see airports being very busy the first November week, certainly not the International Arrivals sections.

Why October 29th or 30th, where has that been said?

[Rimmer]

A personal attack and name calling has been removed.

 

A post citing a year old study has also been removed

[sdweller]

They just can’t drop the ASQ thing…. and most countries allow the quick test… results in 15 minutes, this would eliminate the stupid ASQ.  And for those still hung up on the idea “you can test neg and still have it” …. get OVER it, chances are almost nil… time to get on with life, this is NOT the plague!

[Sydebolle]

Can someone please tell me how to stop this endless avalanche ofg rubbish and nonsense coming from that man? If you are vaccinated, then you are vaccinated - otherwise no entry to Thailand. 

What difference makes a PCR test and a one-night-jail at most likely exorbitant price with garbage-bag-dressed cabbie just to be served cold lousy food in plastic containers? 

I just wonder what would happen, if the EU would allow visitors from ten Asian countries EXCEPT Thailand; this little minister clown would go epa-<deleted>, cry foul and blame again all those bad, dirty farang. 

Thailand is a failed state and the last clown circus, in residence since 2014, is definitely a substantial contribution to the free fall this country is in! 

[hotchilli]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

The minister said he expects the COVID-19 situation to be largely controllable as vaccination coverage has increased significantly and various public health measures have been implemented. The health ministry will devise more disease control measures that are safe and beneficial to the public

Thailands vaccination programme is still lagging drastically.

They put the demands on safe tourists but it's the un-vaccinated locals that are at risk from themselves.

[arithai12]

3 hours ago, keith101 said:

Just because someone has been fully vaccinated does not mean they cannot catch and pass on the virus to others .

So can all other 70M people already in the country. What is your point?

[Bernietravelling]

Compared to that, the intended 500 baht entry fee is ridiculous….

 

For a family of 4, that means ~4000 baht before departure, another 3200 baht on arrival and that x 4

… roughly 28,000 baht for nothing.

 

Add in to that an otherwise not selected ASQ hotel.
 

And people still afraid to be dumped into an expensive quarantine hotel, due to a positive PCR test… 

 

…. Good luck, Anutin !

 

 

See you again in the Maldives, Seychelles, Mexico, Caribbean, Cuba, Tanzania, Kenya !

Edited October 14, 2021 by Bernietravelling

[Clarkey611]

He still does not appear to have been appraised of the details of the plan to open up the country by his boss.

 

Please can someone tell him and the man from TAT that no one is coming!

[eastendanto]

Still none the wiser, so do the people arriving from the 10 "lucky" countries have to spend a night in Anutin's personal hotel accommodation?

 

[new2here]

 

3 hours ago, Changoverandout said:

So I presume you have to book this before arriving. It’s getting ridiculous 

Ahhh this is what i was kind of expecting…

 

Thailand aside, if you think about it, IF the rule is that you have to take test right at point if arrival, then that’s going to be at the airport.. and unless the airport is set up to reliably do MASS testing, house all the people waiting in a socially distanced manner for the waiting time AND you can get testing done in only a few hours at best, then you’re going to have to “house” these people somewhere offsite until the test comes back.

 

to me, the government can simply predesignate several hotels as “pending test” hotels.. don’t rely on each passenger to find, choose and book a hotel individually for that one night..  

 

what Id do is just require the passenger pre-pay some fee (call it X baht) and that fee then covers: the required test, one night at a “pending test” hotel and transport to/from the airport and the hotel.

 

When you actually arrive THEN your hotel would be assigned- like how SQ room have been done for returning Thais.

 

This testing and apparent overnight housing mandate also signals to me that the whole CoE won’t be going away anytime soon.  as i could see the government adding it to the CoE.

Edited October 14, 2021 by new2here

[sqwakvfr]

If everyone arriving after Nov 1 is required to have a PCR test then there are only two options:

1) Limit the number of arrival per day

2) Increase laboratory testing capabilities dramatically(this would cost more money)

 or

3) The one day wait in a quasi-ASQ hotel will could turn into 1,2,3 or 4 days waiting the lab result.  

 

I believe when one arrives at BKK after Nov 1 they will be told the wait for the PCR Test result could take more than 1 day. 

[barney42bb]

Never trust the officialdom...

Proof of Vaccination is sufficient...

Testing and lockdown do not work..... What's today you get it 30 minutes after testing?

Cleanliness and discipline does help

 

It's the Flu folks...be doing for elderly and frail for centuries...while nothing like the Spanish Flu of 1918/19

 

So learn to live with it along with all of other lives evils.

 

This will play very nicely for a good earner when they concoct your results to lead you away to their costly solutions.

 

 

Go back to your planning Khun Anutin...and try harder please.

 

[taxin]

First it’s 14 nights quarantine, then 7 nights and now 1 night, yet people are still not happy. The mind boggles.

[KannikaP]

2 hours ago, internationalism said:

I would prefer to have 7 nights relaxing on the beach at sha+ hotel in pattaya sandbox, which I can chose and pay from around 500b per night with the total 3500b (that are prices from phuket, but I would imagine pattaya can be even cheaper), than be put into ASQ for 3500b per night (or two, if the first test is inconclusive).

I would think that also would be priorities for the majority of tourists - get into their hotel strait from the airport, without an additional cost of an expensive hotel and wasted one day of their holiday. That would be an exactly wasted day

Why do you talk about TOURISTS? Surely these rules will apply to returning expats, husbands, fathers & business people. Get it straight.

[DefaultName]

1 hour ago, Leonard Desharnais said:

Remember that there are a lot of Thais that do not want foreigners here yet. Can not blame the average Thai as the govt has scared the hell out of them over the past year. No matter what the govt decides it will end up being wrong as they must keep certain criteria to satisfy the Thais and I really doubt there will be very many visitors without everything opened so right now they as Fox news says, ' it is a Shiff show

Only clean foreigners, no dirty foreigners.

[1duckyboy]

The first night must be in an ASQ hotel. That's one day in quarantine. Waiting for the other shoes to drop.

[internationalism]

15 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

Why do you talk about TOURISTS? Surely these rules will apply to returning expats, husbands, fathers & business people. Get it straight.

no, I talk about myself, as a not tourist, but expat, husband, father and businessman, who would prefer have well deserved 7 days holiday on the beach. That's what I am waiting for.

In the last sentence I have added, that I think the majority of tourists have similar desire. 

[papa al]

1 hour ago, sdweller said:

chances are almost nil

... reference?

[apetryxx]

Anutin and his gang of lunatics strike again! Will this man ever shut his big pie hole and not continue with this train wreck he is largely responsible for creating?

[Jimbo2014]

As usual none of it makes sense.  For example France has a vaccination rate equal to the UK but much lower Covid Case counts, and its not on the list.  China meanwhile is at best 50% vaccinated largely with Sinovac.  Completely arbitrary. 

[10baht]

4 hours ago, keith101 said:

Just because someone has been fully vaccinated does not mean they cannot catch and pass on the virus to others .

What are you saying? 1 day in   an Alternative State Quarantine (ASQ) facility or an authorized hotel to wait for the test result. Then 14 days in Covid Jail?

[Robin]

What cost the  compulsory PCR Test on arrival, and ASCQ hotel?   

What cost the insurance, not mentioned by Anutin.?

What about the compulsory tracking app?

There is plenty of money to be made from these millions of tourists.

 

[StayinThailand2much]

3 hours ago, Yknot said:

Quarantine free? This looks like the quarantine period is being reduced to one or two days, depending on the flight arrival time in Thailand.

Maybe they meant "quarantine fee"...

[Cadan]

So I am in Thailand with a French passport and if I leave the country for a business trip and come back I need to quarantine ? Totally makes sense 

[spidermike007]

So, has the heinous COE been scraped yet? Why no mention of the hurdle that has kept countless tourists away?

[StayinThailand2much]

18 minutes ago, Jimbo2014 said:

As usual none of it makes sense.  For example France has a vaccination rate equal to the UK but much lower Covid Case counts, and its not on the list.  China meanwhile is at best 50% vaccinated largely with Sinovac.  Completely arbitrary. 

I'm pretty sure the deciding factor for the list was 'most tourists in 2019', which would explain 'China, U.S., UK, and Germany'. One exception is Malaysia (large number of visitors, too), probably because the pandemic is worse there than in Thailand.

Edited October 14, 2021 by StayinThailand2much