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Thailand Pass starts Nov 1, refunds on COE bookings allowed

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9 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

My UK daughter and her young kids have now cancelled the attempt to come and visit me and her sister here in Phuket for Christmas, she needed to book her holidays with firm dates at work to be able to take the xmas period off, she's a nurse, now its too late for the xmas period booking because of all the uncertainty in these restrictions.

 

My elderly mother was also going to come, probably the last trip she could ever make but I've told her to cancel the thought of it. I don't want her subjected to any hassles.

Waiting until the beginning of November to try to save this high season was insane. So many of us have to make plans ahead of time. 

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  • Two separate issues, visa and travel pass (you need to use both).

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    grumbleweed

    The difference between "allowed" and "granted" will be interesting   A refund will only be granted when Venus, the moon, and the teapot on the kitchen table are perfectly aligned

  • I see it that way too. For me, planning security is more important than the stress of not knowing clearly whether I can fly and when. But in both systems (COE or Thai Pass) there are additional costs

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8 hours ago, Kadilo said:

…..and the likes of Barrow who loves to be first with the bad news, which others then copy and before you know where you are everyone is making up their own rules again. 

https://www.caat.or.th/th/archives/61226

It was CAAT themselves who first shared it and as for Barrow, you'll find by far the majority of his tweets and shares are promoting Thailand, its culture and places to visit. Plenty of evidence to back that up, just look at his timeline

what happens if your 72 hour before flight covid test comes up positive and you cannot fly? Will airlines let you rebook or is it covered by insurance?

ok i arrive nov 4.  do i have enuf time to get the thailand pass.  has any one studyed the thailand pass.  maybe its just a computer program and if you fill in the fields correctly it pops out  green  light . and i get the pass?   makes no sense if one is arriving on nov 2, 3 , 4,  5,  6 , ,7.............that they have not the time to get the thailand pass so their will be no arrivals on nov 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 or 7?

5 minutes ago, yogi yogi said:

ok i arrive nov 4.  do i have enuf time to get the thailand pass.  has any one studyed the thailand pass.  maybe its just a computer program and if you fill in the fields correctly it pops out  green  light . and i get the pass?   makes no sense if one is arriving on nov 2, 3 , 4,  5,  6 , ,7.............that they have not the time to get the thailand pass so their will be no arrivals on nov 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 or 7?

ok i arrive nov 4.  do i have enuf time to get the thailand pass.....No you need at least 7 days. and the TP won't be ready until nov 1st according to all reports.

has any one studyed the thailand pass.  maybe its just a computer program and if you fill in the fields correctly it pops out  green  light . and i get the pass?, It doesn't exist yet and i doubt anything will pop out lol!

 

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22 hours ago, internationalism said:

They have mentioned earlier registering is expected to be 3-5 days time frame.

On the embassy website it says registration is expected to take up to seven working days.

 

For those of us who applied for COE earlier this month and are still waiting for approval and scheduled to depart for Thailand around the first week or two of November, this is a disaster waiting to happen.

 

That is to say, if your COE isn't approved before 1 November, and if you have to start from scratch and apply for the Thailand Pass, then your application might not be processed in time for your departure.

 

Talk about a huge bite out of a giant <deleted> sandwich... ????

23 hours ago, Bvor said:

i'm in perth australia waiting for clarity from TIT and oz.  australia is ineligible to access online evisa's and i'm loathe to post my passport to canberra embassy for TR60 visa so it looks like visa exempt for me, but only when oz borderforce allows me international travel AND when i don't have to do 14 days hotel quarantine on my return to perth - what a debacle! 

Permission to leave Australia is relaxing quickly.

 

Eastern states have cancelled 14 D Quar., for many arrivals.

 

WA seems to be quite hesitant. Give them time.

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53 minutes ago, fusion58 said:

On the embassy website it says registration is expected to take up to seven working days.

 

For those of us who applied for COE earlier this month and are still waiting for approval and scheduled to depart for Thailand around the first week or two of November, this is a disaster waiting to happen.

 

That is to say, if your COE isn't approved before 1 November, and if you have to start from scratch and apply for the Thailand Pass, then your application might not be processed in time for your departure.

 

Talk about a huge bite out of a giant <deleted> sandwich... ????

It's a <deleted>-ing circus.

FACT CHECK: The recent infographic posted by CAAT that stated foreign travellers must take out insurance from a Thai company is incorrect. The spokesperson at the @MFAThai  has confirmed, “travellers are not required to purchase health insurance from a Thai insurance provider”.

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https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1452115995842146311

 

Have a buddy in the Los Angeles area submit the last document for his COE 2 days ago, he is arriving Nov 11th into the Phuket sandbox.  He woke up this morning to a rejection saying that he is lucky to be one of the 1st to use the Thailand Pass system when it becomes operational.  He's <deleted> obviously.  He's lived in Thailand long enough to know how anything technical is not the Thai gov's forte.  I though you had up to Nov 1st to finish out COE's in process.  Anybody else hear of not finishing COE's at this time?  Thanks in advance.

Have a buddy in the Los Angeles area submit the last document for his COE 2 days ago, he is arriving Nov 11th into the Phuket sandbox.  He woke up this morning to a rejection saying that he is lucky to be one of the 1st to use the Thailand Pass system when it becomes operational.  He's <deleted> obviously after all that work.  He's lived in Thailand long enough to know how anything technical is not the Thai gov's forte and rapidly rolled out programs almost never work as intended at first.  I though you had up to Nov 1st to finish out COE's in process.  Anybody else hear of not finishing COE's at this time?  Thanks in advance.

5 minutes ago, DrPhibes said:

Have a buddy in the Los Angeles area submit the last document for his COE 2 days ago, he is arriving Nov 11th into the Phuket sandbox.  He woke up this morning to a rejection saying that he is lucky to be one of the 1st to use the Thailand Pass system when it becomes operational.  He's <deleted> obviously.  He's lived in Thailand long enough to know how anything technical is not the Thai gov's forte.  I though you had up to Nov 1st to finish out COE's in process.  Anybody else hear of not finishing COE's at this time?  Thanks in advance.

From the embassy website:

 

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From 1 November 2021, website https://coethailand.mfa.go.th/ will no longer provide services on issuing Certificate of Entry - COE
From 1 November 2021 onwards, please register for Thailand Pass online at https://tp.consular.go.th/ Thailand Pass QR Code would be issued for the applicant to present to Airlines and Thai Border Control Officials.
• COE approved before 1 November 2021 remains valid to enter Thailand. Please contact your hotel directly to get the refund.

So, if I'm reading this correctly, the embassies will still be approving COE applications right up to Nov 1st.

4 minutes ago, fusion58 said:

From the embassy website:

 

So, if I'm reading this correctly, the embassies will still be approving COE applications right up to Nov 1st.

Well they better get the damned thing up and running now ......

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1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

FACT CHECK: The recent infographic posted by CAAT that stated foreign travellers must take out insurance from a Thai company is incorrect. The spokesperson at the @MFAThai  has confirmed, “travellers are not required to purchase health insurance from a Thai insurance provider”.

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https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1452115995842146311

 

The Thai government has an Anti-Fake News Center that is quite prolific when they see perceived fake news in the media. But they also really need to focus on information coming out of government departments. It must be clear and factual. Why do we have to fact check it ourselves?

 

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1452120130524102660

 

4 hours ago, clivebaxter said:

what happens if your 72 hour before flight covid test comes up positive and you cannot fly? Will airlines let you rebook or is it covered by insurance?

That depends on the airline and the ticket you have booked. With Emirates, for example, every rebooking is free and on top you also have Corvit insurance.

6 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

FACT CHECK: The recent infographic posted by CAAT that stated foreign travellers must take out insurance from a Thai company is incorrect. The spokesperson at the @MFAThai  has confirmed, “travellers are not required to purchase health insurance from a Thai insurance provider”.

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https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1452115995842146311

 

I bought a $100,000 Covid insurance from Luma, 3100 baht and booked 7 days at SHAplus Berkeley in BKK from 13 November. Flying from Calcutta 

 

4 minutes ago, Changoverandout said:

Flying from Calcutta 

do you make suits 

On 10/24/2021 at 5:00 AM, ThailandRyan said:

Well they better get the damned thing up and running now ......

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Page has just been updated, but not much more information than most probably already new .

 

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https://tp.consular.go.th/

 

COE pages updated too.

Just found this:

 

"The 1-night package of Test & Go program should cover accommodation for 1 night, transportation from the airport to the hotel, the required RT-PCR COVID-19 test, and an Antigen Test Kit (ATK)."

 

Just wondering when/how/who is expected to administer the Antigen Test Kit (ATK)?

And does someone have to report the result to the authorities?

 

Please share your understanding, thanks.

 

9 minutes ago, scorecard said:

Just wondering when/how/who is expected to administer the Antigen Test Kit (ATK)?

And does someone have to report the result to the authorities?

  • Any traveller experiencing COVID-19 symptoms must immediately get a test done, using the provided ATK. If experiencing no symptoms, travellers must use the provided ATK for COVID-19 self-testing on Day 6-7, and show the result to staff at the hotel or accommodation, as well as record the result (bot detected and non-detected) in the MorChana App.

2nd bullet, point 9: https://www.tatnews.org/2021/10/quarantine-free-thailand-reopening-for-vaccinated-tourists-from-1-november-2021/

On 10/23/2021 at 8:22 PM, Kaoboi Bebobp said:

Have a look at this head smacker from the Civil Aviation Authority of Thailand. It mentions in column 2, item 3. Certificate of Entry. Hasn't someone told the CAAT that Thailand Pass replaces the COE? Posted by Richard Barrow in the last couple of hours.  Un-bloody-believable.

 

 

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1451885689490972672?s=20

 

 

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On 10/23/2021 at 11:35 PM, Salerno said:

They don't, they just publish misleading graphics.

 

On 10/23/2021 at 11:39 PM, Kadilo said:

…..and the likes of Barrow who loves to be first with the bad news, which others then copy and before you know where you are everyone is making up their own rules again. 

 

On 10/24/2021 at 8:08 AM, Bkk Brian said:

https://www.caat.or.th/th/archives/61226

It was CAAT themselves who first shared it and as for Barrow, you'll find by far the majority of his tweets and shares are promoting Thailand, its culture and places to visit. Plenty of evidence to back that up, just look at his timeline

 

On 10/24/2021 at 10:36 AM, Bkk Brian said:

FACT CHECK: The recent infographic posted by CAAT that stated foreign travellers must take out insurance from a Thai company is incorrect. The spokesperson at the @MFAThai  has confirmed, “travellers are not required to purchase health insurance from a Thai insurance provider”.

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https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1452115995842146311

 

And when Barrow pointed out the mistake in his "FACT CHECK" tweet, he was castigated by the deputy editor of the paper that cannot be mentioned, for being "Mr Perfect". Because Lord knows, it's waaay beyond the responsibility of a journalist to get the facts right in any story they publish, and when they are challenged on the veracity, it's the fault of the person pointing out the error. The "Fake News" centre clearly a very powerful and useful organ.../s 

34 minutes ago, Salerno said:
  • Any traveller experiencing COVID-19 symptoms must immediately get a test done, using the provided ATK. If experiencing no symptoms, travellers must use the provided ATK for COVID-19 self-testing on Day 6-7, and show the result to staff at the hotel or accommodation, as well as record the result (bot detected and non-detected) in the MorChana App.

2nd bullet, point 9: https://www.tatnews.org/2021/10/quarantine-free-thailand-reopening-for-vaccinated-tourists-from-1-november-2021/

Looks like they have changed the pages announcement as of today for the Thailand Pass.  The MorChana App however does not have the added section I saw yesterday, instead the MorProm app does have an ATK location for entering Info, but it's states "only for service units participating in the project. So I wonder whats going on, and if only the SHA+ or AQ locations can enter the info. 

 

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So everyone onboard flies at the risk of being next to an untested Thai...ridiculous

 

So, according to this embassy release, when I fly into #Thailand next week, there could be some Thais onboard who weren’t tested first. Why do I have to do an RT-PCR test within 72 hours of flying, while some groups of Thais can board the plane without being tested? Scary.

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https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1452867908997042178

 

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

So everyone onboard flies at the risk of being next to an untested Thai...ridiculous

 

So, according to this embassy release, when I fly into #Thailand next week, there could be some Thais onboard who weren’t tested first. Why do I have to do an RT-PCR test within 72 hours of flying, while some groups of Thais can board the plane without being tested? Scary.

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https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1452867908997042178

 

I guess it comes down to a right of return and unlike in the past they get quarantined at their own expenses now.  However, you are right to question such a disparity, especially in light of the flight regulations within the country.

8 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

So, according to this embassy release, when I fly into #Thailand next week, there could be some Thais onboard who weren’t tested first.

As it has been since day one.

3 minutes ago, Salerno said:

As it has been since day one.

Yes I'm aware but its not an ideal situation being on a longhaul flight with untested people no matter what nationality, just because their country allows it. Just adds to the overall unpleasant experience and has the potential to cause infection to others who are coming here on holiday or returning.

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18 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

So everyone onboard flies at the risk of being next to an untested Thai...ridiculous

 

So, according to this embassy release, when I fly into #Thailand next week, there could be some Thais onboard who weren’t tested first. Why do I have to do an RT-PCR test within 72 hours of flying, while some groups of Thais can board the plane without being tested? Scary.

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https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1452867908997042178

 

That depends also on the airline you are flying with. Etihad requires that all travellers have a negative PCR test,  it doesn't matter whether the destination requires it or not.

28 minutes ago, gearbox said:

That depends also on the airline you are flying with. Etihad requires that all travellers have a negative PCR test,  it doesn't matter whether the destination requires it or not.

Yes, I believe it is only for Thai Airways as most airlines insist on a negative test. Thai Airways is the one he is flying on from London to Thailand and hence the concern.

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